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[18:12:17] <EviL_DawG> hi all
[18:12:21] <EviL_DawG> this the Exult crew?
[18:12:24] <ZutGu> hi
[18:12:37] <ZutGu> I think that only wjp is here from exult crew
[18:12:51] <EviL_DawG> do u use exult?
[18:12:55] <ZutGu> yes
[18:13:08] <EviL_DawG> well im here only to ask a question, i dont know if u know the answer but...
[18:13:19] <ZutGu> just bring it :)
[18:13:30] <EviL_DawG> i've been trying to do the forge of virtue
[18:13:45] <EviL_DawG> and when i try to get the blood into the bucket, from hitting the tree, the blood never comes out
[18:13:48] <EviL_DawG> u know what part im talkin about?
[18:13:57] <ZutGu> yes, I have solved that quest
[18:14:12] <EviL_DawG> i place the bucket exactly under the tree, ontop the rock, and i swing at the tree, the rock, from every side and angle
[18:14:17] <EviL_DawG> and it still doesnt bleed into the bucky
[18:14:19] <EviL_DawG> bucket
[18:14:24] <ZutGu> ah
[18:14:31] <EviL_DawG> any idea why?
[18:14:37] <ZutGu> yes, listen and try this
[18:14:44] <EviL_DawG> ok
[18:14:45] <EviL_DawG> shoot
[18:15:06] <ZutGu> you have pick axe, put it to hand, equipt it, and then only double click (use) blood part of tree and should happen some animation
[18:15:27] <ZutGu> im not sure tho
[18:15:31] <EviL_DawG> wait so
[18:15:40] <EviL_DawG> just put the pick in my hand and swing at it?
[18:16:01] <EviL_DawG> thats kinda what i been doing, but still no blood comes out, should i try it without the bucket? and animation will happeN?
[18:16:37] <EviL_DawG> i can swing anywhere on the tree? and do i want to click on the tree? or the rock
[18:17:27] <ZutGu> double click pick axe when its on hand and use target to that blood part
[18:17:38] <wjp> yes, use the pick, don't attack with it
[18:17:42] <ZutGu> yes
[18:17:43] <ZutGu> right
[18:17:52] <ZutGu> you should read that book where it's told :P
[18:18:28] <wjp> we should put this in the FAQ if it isn't in there already
[18:18:57] <ZutGu> I recommend that :)
[18:21:43] <EviL_DawG> i have the book
[18:21:51] <EviL_DawG> but i've tried so many things
[18:21:58] <EviL_DawG> i think its a glitch in the Exult game
[18:22:03] <ZutGu> no it's not
[18:22:07] <ZutGu> I solved that with exult
[18:22:09] <EviL_DawG> Wait...
[18:22:10] <EviL_DawG> so
[18:22:14] <EviL_DawG> when pick axe is on the ground
[18:22:16] <EviL_DawG> double click it
[18:22:18] <ZutGu> there is some trick on that quest
[18:22:18] <wjp> no, in your hands
[18:22:28] <ZutGu> put it to your hands
[18:22:29] <wjp> put the pick in your hands, double click it, and select the rock
[18:22:32] <EviL_DawG> WJP, am i able to double click the pick axe, like i can a bucket?
[18:22:37] <EviL_DawG> where i get the little crosshair things
[18:22:40] <wjp> yes
[18:22:43] <EviL_DawG> oooooh
[18:22:45] <ZutGu> :D
[18:22:46] <EviL_DawG> maybe tahts what im doing wrong
[18:22:50] <EviL_DawG> let me go try, thank you, brb
[18:22:59] <EviL_DawG> ive been using it like attackin git
[18:24:58] <EviL_DawG> ah i gotta restart my computer, i'll brb
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[19:16:00] <EviL_DawG> hey anyone here?
[19:16:13] <EviL_DawG> yess it worked :0 but not i have another question :)
[19:17:21] <EviL_DawG> where do i find the magic carpet?
[19:20:45] <wjp> you'll automatically run into it at some point :-)
[19:21:48] <EviL_DawG> lol ok, im onto the part where i alrdy did skala brae and im about to mess around with the time lord, i didnt alrdy pass it did i?
[19:22:15] <wjp> no, you're close
[19:23:55] <EviL_DawG> ok, and 1 last thing!! lol what is with that alien space ship in the field, does it have any significance? or is it just something the Ultima peole thought would be funny to add in
[19:35:21] <sbx> its a reference to another Origin game
[19:44:07] <EviL_DawG> is the hoe of destruction do alot of damage? worth using?
[19:44:57] <EviL_DawG> and the death scyhte, worth using?
[19:45:20] <sbx> yes
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[20:02:50] <Dominus> hi
[20:03:03] <Dominus> wip, good FAQ catch :-)
[20:03:08] <wjp> :-)
[20:03:26] <wjp> has it been so long that you forgot how to spell my nick ;-)
[20:03:36] <Dominus> oh
[20:03:53] <Dominus> actually too long to remember that TAB completes nicks
[20:12:30] <EviL_DawG> do any of u know a link to a site with the whole map of Ultima 7 black gate
[20:13:16] <Dominus> map as in the cloth map or in the real (eg F3-Cheat-map)
[20:13:17] <Dominus> ?
[20:13:21] <wjp> try my homepage: http://www.math.leidenuniv.nl/~wpalenst/
[20:13:46] <wjp> and don't let the Dutch scare you :-)
[20:16:15] <Dominus> nice maps
[20:16:42] <wjp> you never saw them before?
[20:16:56] <Dominus> not all
[20:17:10] <Dominus> especially the Underworld 2 maps with item descriptions
[20:22:36] <EviL_DawG> i saw the maps but
[20:22:40] <EviL_DawG> any full maps with labels?
[20:23:30] <wjp> no idea
[20:24:25] <wjp> heh, you can actually see the magic carpet on that map :-)
[20:24:42] <wjp> it's more detailed than I remembered :-)
[20:28:16] <Dominus> with about 10MB it should be that detailed :-)
[20:28:33] <sbx> i want to see the avatar waving at me
[20:28:43] <Dominus> I have those maps on my "ultimate Ultima collection" DVD :-)
[20:28:46] <EviL_DawG> u can? lol i don see it
[20:30:39] <EviL_DawG> i just remember it being in moutnains
[20:41:19] <EviL_DawG> hey im at that part where im trying to contact the time lord, as im readin the walk through book, i am clueless as what to do now, i just saw Alagner dead, am i supposed to goto despise?
[20:41:43] <servus> I've beaten Ultima 7 several times and I've NEVER spoken to the Time Lord
[20:41:47] <servus> I never even got the chance.
[20:42:53] <EviL_DawG> so ur not supposed to talk to him?
[20:43:11] <EviL_DawG> so whats the whole point of that part
[20:43:31] <EviL_DawG> theres something about an hourglass and the time lord, that mean i dont even bother with those 2 parts?
[20:44:37] <Dominus> BG is not that linear. You are supposed to talk to him but you can still finish the game if you don'T talk to him
[20:44:59] <EviL_DawG> how do i talk to him though?
[20:45:18] <EviL_DawG> right now im clueless as what to do, as i read in the book it mentions somethin about going to Despise
[20:45:18] <Dominus> you need to have the hourglass enchanted somehoe
[20:45:30] <Dominus> I haven'T played BG in ages
[20:45:47] <EviL_DawG> where do i get an hourglass?
[20:45:58] <Dominus> never finished it with Exult as I played too much when we had the habit of breaking savegames
[20:46:08] <Dominus> in paws is an hourglass
[20:46:24] <EviL_DawG> oh ok, also is Despise the place east of Brittania? where the carpet is?
[20:46:39] <EviL_DawG> i seemed to have misplaced my world map thing of BG and i have no idea where stuff is, i just guess and most of time im right
[20:46:57] <EviL_DawG> er west of britannia
[20:46:59] <EviL_DawG> is wht i meant
[20:47:08] <Dominus> I'm not sure with the britannian map anymore myself
[20:47:09] <EviL_DawG> i dunno how well u remmber it
[20:47:12] <EviL_DawG> ah
[20:47:14] <EviL_DawG> hmm
[20:48:07] <Dominus> I'm sure google can help you find a map with names on it
[20:49:13] <Dominus> not THAT sure though
[20:50:38] <sbx> I'm Feeling Lucky!
[20:54:31] <wjp> Despise is to the west of Britain, yes
[20:54:59] <wjp> (Despise corresponds to Compassion, and Britain is the city of Compassion)
[20:55:47] <ZutGu> I have U7 maps, fellowship book in pdf files :P, came along with u7 complete
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[21:01:21] <ZutGu> hi baastuul
[21:01:25] <ZutGu> what's up ?
[21:01:26] <Baastuul> Hello.
[21:01:39] <Baastuul> Not a whole lot. I'm just trying to finish up Sacred so I can get to playing Beyond Divinity.
[21:02:23] <ZutGu> i recommend that you DON'T touch beyond Divinity, it's 10 times badder than divine divinity, if you don't like linear dungeon crawls :P
[21:02:38] <ZutGu> I have played that and don't like it
[21:03:12] <Baastuul> I didn't particularly like the demo so much, but I'm curious as to how the rest of the game is.
[21:03:25] <Baastuul> I enjoyed Divine Divinity and think Larian Studios is a pretty good company, so I see no reason why not to support it.
[21:03:39] <Baastuul> And it really doesn't take much to please me, so I bet I'll be able to find enjoyment in Beyond Divinity. :)
[21:04:01] <Baastuul> Besides, heheh... I already bought Beyond Divinity on Wednesday. :)
[21:04:21] <sbx> grats
[21:04:26] <ZutGu> mmkay...i'm trying to sell it right now, bought that too, hehe
[21:05:00] <Baastuul> My copy of Beyond Divinity came with a free copy of Divine Divinity (so now I have two copies of Divine Divinity).
[21:05:06] <Baastuul> More loot for my game collection. :)
[21:05:34] <Baastuul> I got the last copy of Beyond Divinity from Game Stop and I think the copy I got was the one left over from their preorder promotion.
[21:06:03] <ZutGu> mmkay
[21:06:11] <sbx> whta does the box look like? i wouldn't mind getting 2 games for the price of 1
[21:06:30] <sbx> Game Stop?
[21:06:39] <ZutGu> I got 50 paged novel along with BD
[21:07:00] <Baastuul> Yeah, http://www.gamestop.com/ I went to the local Game Stop at our city's mall, though.
[21:07:04] <Dominus> I didn't like Divine Divinity, banned it from my hard drive again
[21:07:28] <Baastuul> Sbx, they didn't give me the Divine Divinity box with Beyond Divinity. It came in three CDs (in three paper sleeves) inside the Beyond Divinity box.
[21:07:59] <Baastuul> ZutGu: I ordered that 50 paged novel along with the soundtrack from digitaljesters.com.
[21:09:34] <Baastuul> It was very annoying ordering from Digital Jesters.
[21:10:00] <Baastuul> They charged the debit card three times for the same product when I only wanted one and then it took a while for me to sort it out with them.
[21:10:12] <Baastuul> Then they refunded ALL of them.
[21:10:21] <Baastuul> And sent me the novel and soundtrack. :P
[21:10:59] <sbx> hmm ok
[21:11:02] <sbx> Dominus: again?
[21:11:21] <ZutGu> hehe
[21:11:35] <Dominus> again? No I only banned it once and never lifted that ban :-)
[21:12:02] <Dominus> don't aks me why I didn't like it, just wasn't my thing
[21:12:04] <ZutGu> baastuul: sent me some cast first :P
[21:12:37] <Baastuul> hehe
[21:13:23] <Baastuul> I would if I could, but I've pretty much used all my pocket money. :)
[21:14:34] <ZutGu> :)
[21:16:14] <sbx> going, bye
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[21:16:41] <ZutGu> cya
[21:16:48] <wjp> bye
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[23:26:33] <EviL_DawG> anyone know how i can get in contact with the TimeLord?
[23:28:26] <Baastuul> After you do the specific quest (I forget which one), you target your Orb of the Moons in a northwest position
[23:28:31] <Baastuul> and then that opens up a moongate and you go through it
[23:28:42] <Baastuul> and you should end up in Shrine of Spirituality (where the Time Lord is trapped)
[23:28:58] <Baastuul> Then he'll tell you to get an hourglass (from Beverlea in Paws)
[23:29:08] <Baastuul> And then you get it enchanted by Nicodemus (in Empath Abbey), I believe.
[23:29:24] <Baastuul> After that happens, you can speak with him by double-clicking the enchanted hourglass.
[23:31:39] <EviL_DawG> where in northwest position?
[23:31:44] <EviL_DawG> anywhere in the northwest area?
[23:32:10] <EviL_DawG> the wisp told me i can talk to him in the northwest as u said
[23:32:13] <Baastuul> anywhere you are standing
[23:32:14] <EviL_DawG> but i cant find where i should do it
[23:32:19] <Baastuul> you target the orb of the moons northwest of the avatar
[23:32:26] <EviL_DawG> everytime i click on the moongate it takes me some diff place in brittania
[23:32:28] <Baastuul> That is, the top left of the screen, usually
[23:32:37] <EviL_DawG> hmmi'll try it thanks, brb
[23:33:09] <EviL_DawG> wow, it worked, i didnt think it was that simple, thanks man
[23:37:26] <Baastuul> Yup, no prob. :)
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