#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 3 Aug 2004 (GMT)

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[04:47:59] <ShadwChsr> Good evening :)
[04:48:41] <Colourless> evening.. .it's 2:18 pm
[04:50:17] <ShadwChsr> 9:50 here :P
[04:50:28] <ShadwChsr> not my fault the world is round <grin>
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[07:15:54] * wjp yawns... morning
[07:16:44] <Colourless> good morning...
[07:16:53] <Colourless> looks like afternoon to me
[07:17:01] <Baastuul> 12:16 AM here...
[07:17:16] <Colourless> 16:47 here
[07:17:28] <wjp> 9:17...
[07:18:12] <Colourless> i see we all seem to have accurate time on our clocks
[07:19:08] <wjp> yes... it should be accurate (NTP and all that)
[07:19:27] <Colourless> what a wonderful invention
[07:23:17] <Baastuul> I made a picture a couple of hours ago.
[07:23:23] <Baastuul> http://baastuul.digital-focus.us/images/dumb_deer.jpg
[07:23:52] <Colourless> hmm... intersting
[07:24:15] <Baastuul> The "you're dumber than a dumb dumb deer" line was said by an IRC bot a couple years ago on another network.
[07:24:24] <Baastuul> That bot said some of the funniest lines ever
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[08:46:44] <Fl00der> morning
[08:49:46] <Baastuul> hallo
[08:50:13] <Fl00der> changed old nick back
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[08:55:06] <Baastuul> hallo
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[09:05:06] <servus> Hallo voor mij?
[09:05:28] <Baastuul> QuAtSch~!
[09:05:33] <Baastuul> I mean, ONZIN
[09:05:38] * Baastuul looks around crazily
[09:05:38] <Baastuul>
[09:06:07] <servus> Ehhh
[09:06:16] <servus> Step away from the serpent venom
[09:06:38] * Baastuul gets knocked out and sleeps for a long time.
[09:07:17] <servus> Uw gezicht smelt!
[09:07:22] <servus> (I think)
[09:07:48] <Baastuul> :O
[09:07:51] <Baastuul> What does that mean?
[09:09:01] <servus> Your face melts?
[09:09:17] * Baastuul nods.
[09:09:20] <Baastuul> Indeed.
[09:11:46] <servus> Mmm, het is goed!
[09:15:02] <servus> Zo vermoeid! Nr ik kan slapen!
[09:21:22] <servus> Benten u hier?
[09:21:30] <servus> bent*
[09:21:32] <servus> I always mess that up.
[09:22:50] <servus> Ik begrijp niet
[09:30:44] <servus> Ik be aalle alleen?
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[12:50:21] <sbx> hi
[12:53:57] <Fl00der> hi
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[14:19:26] <Fl00der> wow
[14:19:41] <Fl00der> my auction on Beyond Divinity is now 26 euros :)
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[14:57:33] <sbx> Fl00der: you're selling?
[15:10:44] <Fingolfin> wjp: saw my 1.2 .dmg ? :-)
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[15:55:13] <wjp> Fingolfin: yeah, I saw it; thanks :-)
[16:02:22] <Fl00der> sbx: yes, I'm selling it
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[16:07:32] <Fl00der> still 4 days time to bid more :)
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[16:20:47] <wjp> the dmg seems to be on at least two mirrors
[16:20:57] <wjp> let's update the download page
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[16:31:25] <Fingolfin> wjp: fine by me
[16:37:11] <MagicMop> Hi there! I have a question... how hard would it be to use U8's graphics in Exult?
[16:38:38] <wjp> hard
[16:38:57] <MagicMop> :) I guess there would be a lot of tiles in U7 that wouldn't have equivalent tiles in U8.
[16:39:02] <wjp> wrong perspective, not enough art, etc...
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[16:40:51] <MagicMop> It'd be cool though... U8 art is quite nice - considering its age.
[16:47:14] * MagicMop just finished the Black Gate for the third time with Exult... :)
[16:57:14] <wjp> with which version did you finish it?
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[17:16:38] <MagicMop> The official 1.2
[17:18:23] <MagicMop> It was certainly the smoothest, most bug and crash free play through of U7 that I have had...
[17:18:47] <MagicMop> And that includes when I originally played it without Exult many years ago! :D
[17:18:58] <MagicMop> You guys have done a great job.
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[17:20:38] <wjp> good to hear and thanks :-)
[17:21:53] <Lord_Nightmare> :) now all i want is for the blacksmith to follow the right routine and for the original mt-32 music and sfx to work, and I'll be happy
[17:22:20] <Lord_Nightmare> oh and thieves. whats the fun without thieves?
[17:22:28] <wjp> original mt-32 would be very hard for BG...
[17:22:42] <Lord_Nightmare> i know. thats one of the reasons i want it :P
[17:22:53] * Lord_Nightmare is EVIL
[17:22:57] <wjp> blacksmith routine: it's in schedule.cc; patches are welcome ;-P
[17:23:07] <Lord_Nightmare> hmm
[17:23:37] <MagicMop> I think I'm going to wait for the latest snapshots to get more stable before I attempt to finish BG for the FOURTH time with Exult. :)
[17:23:53] <MagicMop> I'm giving Xu4 a try at the moment...
[17:24:03] <MagicMop> heaps of fun! I love U4.
[17:24:21] <wjp> they are pretty close to 1.0, right?
[17:24:48] <MagicMop> Very close I'd say. Just a bit of dungeon work and it'll be perfect.
[17:25:13] <MagicMop> It's already much better than playing the original IMHO
[17:25:21] <Lord_Nightmare> is there a simple way to make the blacksmith: 'if (water trough is empty) { 'look for bucket' 'go to bucket' 'grab bucket' 'look for well' 'go to well' 'fill bucket' 'look for trough' 'go to trough' 'fill trough/empty bucket' 'drop bucket' } (resume normal schedule)
[17:25:51] <MagicMop> I could never go back to mixing spells individually... :)
[17:25:56] <wjp> not quite "simple", but it should be fairly straightforward
[17:26:36] <wjp> don't forget the special cases if it can't find a bucket, well, trough :-)
[17:27:01] <Lord_Nightmare> if 'cannot find bucket' { 'gripe that someone has stolen my bucket' 'go to general store' 'procure bucket' }
[17:27:24] <wjp> heh, something like "create bucket" might be more realistic :-)
[17:27:27] <Lord_Nightmare> troughs and wells are always around blacksmith
[17:27:32] <Lord_Nightmare> wjp: i know
[17:28:07] <sbx> or more reasonable
[17:28:23] <Lord_Nightmare> or even better: 'hunt around town for another bucket and swipe it'
[17:28:27] <wjp> you can't depend on them always being around, though
[17:28:44] <wjp> and a well is definitely not always around
[17:28:55] <Lord_Nightmare> so what happens? blacksmith: where the hell am i what theres no well and/or trough?
[17:29:02] <wjp> the blacksmith I was using as an example while creating the schedule did _not_ have a well
[17:29:06] <wjp> (which is why it's missing...)
[17:29:08] <sbx> haha
[17:29:28] <Lord_Nightmare> blacksmith casts 'create water'
[17:29:40] <sbx> Lord_Nightmare: I remember a similiar scenario from some other game... can't remember which
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[17:30:30] <sbx> bye
[17:30:31] <Lord_Nightmare> ttyal
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[17:31:38] <MagicMop> Wow... its getting late. Time to hit the sack.
[17:31:53] <sbx> bye
[17:31:57] <MagicMop> cya
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[19:16:08] <Fl00der> anyone awake?
[19:16:53] <sbx> yes
[19:16:59] <Fl00der> ah, good, I have question
[19:17:29] <Fl00der> what place is and what is meaning of the place in ultima 7 black gate, coords are in hex: 05A8, 0509, 00
[19:17:58] <Fl00der> it's east from britain, in mountain, there is only blank around and carpet
[19:18:02] <Fl00der> blue one
[19:18:16] <sbx> sounds like the room of the deafd
[19:18:19] <sbx> dead*
[19:18:23] <Fl00der> ah, I was right
[19:18:34] <Fl00der> but why people doesnt go? :P
[19:18:54] <sbx> in u7 they do
[19:18:58] <Fingolfin> exultbot, seen Colourless
[19:19:04] <Fingolfin> ?seen colourless
[19:19:04] <exultbot> colourless left IRC around Tue Aug 3 15:47:48 2004 (GMT) ("casts improved invisibility")
[19:19:05] <sbx> exult deletes NPCs when they die
[19:19:12] <Fl00der> : /
[19:19:21] * Fingolfin wonders if there is an ISO standard for bot commands already? :-)
[19:19:32] <sbx> hehe
[19:19:32] <Fl00der> sbx: suggestion to next versions, change it back :)
[19:19:46] <sbx> people have bugged them about it
[19:19:49] <Fl00der> ah, you are not frin exult team
[19:19:51] <Fl00der> from*
[19:19:53] <sbx> nope
[19:19:56] <Fingolfin> wjp: how about extending exultbot to mention a time span, too (so one doesn't have to convert time zones), like LeChuck does? "x hours, y minutes ago"
[19:20:18] <Fl00der> sbx: what do you mean bugged...?
[19:20:23] <sbx> complained
[19:20:32] <sbx> requested
[19:20:37] <Fl00der> so, im not the only one :)
[19:21:54] * Fl00der hopes that people will go to room of the dead like at old days in U7 in newer versions of exult *whistling*
[19:22:49] <wjp> why?
[19:22:55] <Fl00der> it's cool :)
[19:23:00] <wjp> why?
[19:23:00] <Fl00der> it's ORIGINAL
[19:23:22] <Fl00der> why change something what is working and it doesnt disturb game
[19:23:28] <sbx> so you can continue to harass them after death?
[19:23:32] <Fl00der> yea
[19:23:35] <wjp> what do you mean "change" ?
[19:23:56] <wjp> using your argument we should leave things as they are right now
[19:24:15] <Fl00der> well my english skills are not 100 %
[19:24:24] <Fl00der> let me explain
[19:25:31] <Fl00der> NPC now disappears from world when you kill him/her, and doesn't go to room of the dead like in U7 original, what's the point of that?
[19:25:44] <Fl00der> at least I understand this thing for this way
[19:26:14] <Fl00der> sbx: can you explain better? :P
[19:26:23] <sbx> no I think you got it
[19:26:28] <Fl00der> :)
[19:27:04] <Fl00der> hmm...I missed one part
[19:27:11] <wjp> what's the point of making them go to the room of the dead?
[19:27:30] <wjp> it's illogical...
[19:27:39] <Fl00der> so if I kill now npc, it wont disappear anywhere?
[19:27:52] <Fl00der> even if I sleep 10 days and leave it be?
[19:28:08] <wjp> ?
[19:28:38] <Fl00der> so, for example, if I kill Mack, chicken raiser, will he disappear from world?
[19:29:42] * Fingolfin wonders when Colourless will rewrite the Exult audio code... I look forward to hearing better MIDI quality <grin>
[19:29:48] <sbx> Fl00der: try it :)
[19:29:52] <Fl00der> hehe
[19:29:56] <Fl00der> maybe I have to :)
[19:30:14] <Fl00der> but it was just funny thing that dead people went to room of the dead
[19:30:15] * Fingolfin notices on the download page that the .ogg packs are marked as "(use with 1.1.x snapshot only)"
[19:30:20] <Fingolfin> shouldn't that cover 1.2, too?
[19:30:47] <wjp> yes, it should
[19:31:24] <wjp> the (use with...) bit can just be removed I guess
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[19:32:32] <Fl00der> ah
[19:32:51] <Fl00der> if I kill npc, it won't disappear
[19:32:55] <Fl00der> good also this way :)
[19:33:04] <Fl00der> more logical tho
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[20:45:13] <LordN_Away> /back
[20:45:15] <LordN_Away> er
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[20:58:22] <sbx> wb
[21:01:37] <Lord_Nightmare> hmm why does demiforce link to exult?
[21:02:11] <Lord_Nightmare> I mean, why is there a link to exult from demiforce.parodius.com
[21:08:46] <sbx> I don't know what that is. Maybe he just likes Exult.
[21:09:17] <Fl00der> :)
[21:10:16] <Fl00der> what is demiforce?
[21:11:23] <Lord_Nightmare> demiforce, he's a nintendo/gameboy/gba/other stuff video-game related developer
[21:11:32] <Fl00der> ok
[21:12:34] <Lord_Nightmare> he owns a very rare (the only one of its kind outside nintendo) earthbound (zero) prototype nes cart (which was ported to gba from the internal nintendo copy)
[21:12:47] <Fl00der> :P
[21:14:36] <sbx> nice
[21:14:47] <sbx> its on GBA?
[21:14:58] <sbx> on an actual cart
[21:15:45] <Lord_Nightmare> thats what someone mentioned
[21:15:50] <Lord_Nightmare> i don't know if its been released yet
[21:16:23] <Lord_Nightmare> but it will supposedly be an official nintendo release, which proves that demiforce was NOT making the whole thing up when he released the earthbound zero nes rom
[21:16:37] <Lord_Nightmare> the nes rom was a prototype, its kinda buggy
[21:16:54] <Lord_Nightmare> i don't think the game is even completable due to one or two crashes
[21:17:04] <sbx> hehe
[21:17:12] <sbx> I have an Earthbound Zero rom.
[21:17:23] <sbx> But I never left Onett.
[21:17:58] <Fl00der> hmm..i'm not really familiar with nintendos
[21:18:20] <Fl00der> I have original C64 and 8-bit sega :P
[21:21:03] <sbx> I never actually owned a Nintendo, just a Super Nintendo.
[21:21:21] <sbx> And the SNES Earthbound is one of my favorite games.
[21:22:23] <Fl00der> I have played with snes and nes but never owned
[21:25:47] <sbx> What's 8-bit sega? Wasn't Genesis 16-bit?
[21:26:44] <Fl00der> hmm
[21:26:57] <Fl00der> older version from sega megadrive
[21:27:08] <Fl00der> just reads: SEGA
[21:27:40] <sbx> oh
[21:28:26] <Fl00der> sonic was really fun game :)
[21:28:26] <sbx> Is it called megadrive outside Japan?
[21:28:29] <sbx> yea
[21:28:31] <sbx> h
[21:28:39] <Fl00der> ah, yes
[21:28:42] <Fl00der> sega megadrive
[21:28:45] <Fl00der> that's the name
[21:29:15] <Fl00der> hmm
[21:29:51] <sbx> I played most of the Sonic games.
[21:30:13] <Fl00der> there was only 1 sonic game to older sega
[21:30:16] <Fl00der> hmm
[21:30:24] <Fl00der> im wrong
[21:30:30] <Fl00der> there was maybe some others too
[21:30:33] <Fl00der> can't remember, lol
[21:31:01] <sbx> There is a Sonic game for the NES.
[21:31:47] <sbx> Didn't know about it until I found the rom.
[21:31:55] <Fl00der> :O
[21:32:05] <Fl00der> I didn't know either
[21:32:09] <Fl00der> until know :P
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[22:00:31] <Lord_Nightmare> its a hacked other game iirc
[22:01:28] <Fl00der> going to sleep now
[22:01:37] <Fl00der> night
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