#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 3 Mar 2002 (GMT)

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[01:58:38] --- Topic for #exult is: Exult. Exult? Exult! Exult: http://exult.sf.net
[01:58:38] --- Topic for #exult set by Darke at Sat Feb 23 13:59:54 2002
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[04:22:54] <ShadwChsr> Hello great exulted ones
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[07:42:35] <exultbot> It is now Sun Mar 3 07:42:35 2002 (GMT).
[07:52:21] <Darke> Hello.
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[09:09:46] <Darke> Hi Wumpus.
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[09:26:37] <Wumpus> `lo darke
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[14:47:43] <bj0ern> hi =)
[14:47:49] <Colourless> hi
[14:59:39] <bj0ern> eek, the mac version is buggy hehe
[15:00:18] <Colourless> that's why none of us use macs... or if that it's buggy because we don't use macs.... hmm :-)
[15:00:28] <Colourless> s/if/is/
[15:00:32] <bj0ern> i think the second hehe
[15:00:58] <bj0ern> but after all i used the os9 version in the classic environment in OSX.. so that could be the problem
[15:01:00] <Colourless> of couse finglofin uses a mac, but i haven't seen him round these parts for a while
[15:01:35] <bj0ern> hm :/
[15:01:52] <wjp> he was here last night
[15:02:02] <Colourless> as i said 'i haven't seen'
[15:02:19] <wjp> so? :-)
[15:02:30] <bj0ern> afk a sec
[15:02:33] <Colourless> it's all about me fool!
[15:02:44] <wjp> oh, right, I forgot :-)
[15:03:00] <Colourless> much better :-)
[15:03:12] * wjp humbly asks for forgiveness for forgetting
[15:03:53] <Colourless> you forgot nothing. you willfully disregarded the letter 'I' from my statement
[15:04:38] <wjp> actually, I just added some potentially useful information to your statement :-)
[15:04:59] <Colourless> [1:32] <wjp> so? :-)
[15:05:12] <Colourless> does that add any so called "useful" information?
[15:05:24] <Colourless> :-)
[15:05:25] <wjp> no, but the "<wjp> he was here last night" does :-)
[15:05:56] <Colourless> indeed it does
[15:07:59] <wjp> btw, Oblivious mentioned she's using "Photoshop version 1.0" on the forum
[15:08:16] <Colourless> errr
[15:08:17] <wjp> somehow that sounds a bit weird, since my plugin really expects at least version 5...
[15:08:31] <wjp> (or was it 4?)
[15:08:50] <Colourless> i doubt ps1 even existed for windows
[15:09:45] <Colourless> photoshop suck for paletted image editing. it doesn't have an actual palette table that can be used to pick the colours from
[15:10:00] <wjp> yeah, I noticed
[15:10:11] <wjp> you mentioned something of a hack to show it, though, IIRC
[15:10:33] <Colourless> yeah there is a way
[15:11:02] <wjp> hey, Photoshop 7 has been released?
[15:11:22] <Colourless> the palette needs to be exported as a photoshop "color table" (have to use the correct name you know) and then the swatches need to be replaced with the "color table"
[15:11:39] * Colourless thinks for a sec.... not afaik
[15:11:50] <wjp> http://www.adobe.com/products/main.html
[15:11:58] <Colourless> aye
[15:12:30] <Colourless> no, it's not out yet
[15:12:37] <bj0ern> they even made a mac os x version now
[15:12:44] <bj0ern> i think it was released last monday
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[15:12:57] <bj0ern> or as it next monday? hmmm
[15:13:01] <bj0ern> was
[15:13:32] <wjp> hm, there's a "PhotoDeluxe 1.0"
[15:14:03] <Colourless> In the United States and Canada, Adobe Photoshop 7.0 will ship in the second quarter of 2002 for all platforms.
[15:14:30] <wjp> so it's at least a month away, it seems
[15:14:43] <bj0ern> yeah ok.. maybe 7.0 .. but there was a mac os x release.. then it was 6 or something.. =) i dont use that stuff =)
[15:14:53] <Colourless> PhotoDeluxe is like a photoshop lite edition. often comes with scanners
[15:15:22] <bj0ern> huh, U5: lazarus looks cool
[15:16:16] <Colourless> the exult team aren't big fans of lazarus
[15:16:28] <bj0ern> why not?
[15:16:43] <wjp> for me: it's windows only
[15:16:52] <Colourless> well, because uses the dungeon siege engine, which is windows only
[15:16:56] <bj0ern> it is? ick
[15:17:35] <bj0ern> is that a commercial product? i mean lazarus
[15:18:15] <wjp> if I understand correctly, it's some sort of plug-in or add-on or module for dungeon siege
[15:18:24] <wjp> dungeon siege is commercial, lazarus itself isn't
[15:18:37] <bj0ern> yeah ok.. but DS isn't released yet
[15:18:49] <Colourless> nope
[15:18:58] <Colourless> still some months to go till it's released
[15:19:12] <bj0ern> hm, ok then it will be a modification, like the conversions for the quake engine
[15:19:30] <bj0ern> U7 in 3d would be nice
[15:19:42] <Colourless> yeah, it's just a mod
[15:21:59] <Colourless> a u7 in 3d would be nice, but would be rather difficult to do well. the game world is just huge and there is alot of objects in it.
[15:22:20] <bj0ern> yup..
[15:28:08] <Colourless> someone *cough*wjp*cough* needs to update the news
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[15:33:30] <wjp> did the "Handle sched. opcode 0x29: wait nn game hours" fix the problem with serpent venom?
[15:33:59] <Colourless> perhaps, because something did
[15:34:29] <wjp> ah, the cvs commit message does say so. (the ChangeLog entry doesn't)
[15:35:41] <wjp> ok, news updated
[15:41:16] <bj0ern> hm, i should try to tweak the source so i can compile under mac os x
[15:41:26] <wjp> it doesn't compile in osx?
[15:41:34] <Colourless> it should compile
[15:41:48] <bj0ern> configure says it cannot find the host type
[15:42:01] <bj0ern> i just see that there is a macosx folder .. so it should work
[15:42:03] <bj0ern> hmm
[15:42:04] <wjp> are you using the cvs?
[15:42:10] <bj0ern> checking host system type... configure: error: can not guess host type; you must specify one
[15:42:26] <bj0ern> no.. beta 0.96
[15:42:50] <wjp> I'd try the current cvs
[15:43:12] <bj0ern> okieds
[15:43:16] <bj0ern> erm, okies
[15:43:46] <bj0ern> anyone playing Q3A from time to time?
[15:43:59] <Colourless> why
[15:44:11] <wjp> no
[15:44:25] <Colourless> i play 'occasionally'
[15:44:30] <bj0ern> ah, ok.. because quake rally for q3 is out
[15:44:37] <bj0ern> www.quakerally.com
[15:44:59] <bj0ern> looks cool.. you can even drive a mini cooper >:)
[15:45:20] * wjp tries to remember what fingolfin said about autoconf/automake/libtool stuff for osx
[15:45:33] <wjp> you might need to upgrade one or more of these
[15:45:45] <bj0ern> ah.. might be
[15:45:55] <bj0ern> i have to install fink first
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[19:03:11] <wjp> hi
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