#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 4 Aug 2002 (GMT)

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[01:38:01] <Darke> Greetings.
[01:40:05] <Kirben> Hi
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[09:27:10] <wjp> hi
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[09:46:13] * Darke pawwaves. Hi all.
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[10:32:01] * Darke decides to do something _incredibly_ silly and emerge gcc3.2_pre.
[10:33:52] <wjp> hm, sounds risky :-)
[10:35:03] <Darke> It appeared earlier today when I synced, I compiled it whilst I was running kde and made sure I made a package binary as I was doing so, and suddenly things went Really Strange(tm) within 30 minutes after I'd installed it (no reboot or drop out of KDE yet), and my machine died horribly soon after. *grin*
[10:35:40] <wjp> ouch :-)
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[10:36:39] <Darke> I re-emerged a nicely packaged binary I made of gcc3.0.4 before I started X again earlier (which was about when I returned 40 minutes ago *grin*) and I'm considering doing things the _proper_ way now, except I've just noticed someone went through and masked that package out because it's 'dangerous'. *grin* Gee... I wonder _why_.
[10:37:05] <wjp> hehe :-)
[10:38:19] * Darke hmms... they also masked out gcc3.1.1, strangely enough too. Although gcc3.1 is still the defaul compiler. How odd.
[10:40:15] <Darke> Although admittedly the gcc3.1.1 final had been in there and masked almost since it was released. *grin*
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[10:41:07] <Fingolfin> yo
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[10:41:10] <Darke> Hi Fingolfin.
[10:41:19] <Fingolfin> bad news for Jeff, that :-(
[10:42:36] * Darke nods. A pity. Ahh well, at least he'll have more time to work on exult! *grin, duck lightning bolt*
[10:43:48] <Fingolfin> :-)
[10:50:15] * Darke hops around, flaunting the lack of anything large, whitey, bolty and electricity-zappy feelinged. Whilst horrendously abusing the english language.
[10:50:36] <wjp> hi Max
[10:59:37] * Darke disappears to test if he broke anything. *grin*
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[11:10:50] * Darke pawwaves. Back again. *grin*
[11:14:11] * wjp is trying to find his way in scummvm's code
[11:14:59] <wjp> Most of it looks like it was produced by a (poor) decompiler.. ugh :-)
[11:16:11] * Darke provides wjp with a compass, who's directions are not mapped logically. A map, torn into a hundred pieces for him to reassemble. And two dozen items that might actually do something, altough you'll have to use unintuitive combinations of them, in equally unintuitive ways for them to actually do anything.
[11:16:23] <wjp> oooh, thanks! :-)
[11:17:24] * Darke snickers and bows.
[11:18:21] <wjp> void CostumeRenderer::proc5()
[11:18:36] <wjp> and 1,2,3,4,6
[11:19:48] <Darke> Sounds... umm... well... about as intuitive as those bunch of items, to me. *grin* Perfectly appropriate for 99% of the 'adventure' games I've played though.
[11:20:27] <wjp> true :-)
[11:31:11] <Fingolfin> it was done with a disassembler, yes
[11:31:19] <wjp> it shows :-)
[11:31:29] <Fingolfin> and hey, considering that for many things, like variable names, you had to *guess* what they were doing....
[11:31:39] <wjp> unk1, unk2, unk3 :-)
[11:31:44] <Fingolfin> that's why there are still some unk*Funcs floating around
[11:31:45] <Fingolfin> yes
[11:31:53] <Fingolfin> considering that, we now know quite a lot i think
[11:32:12] <wjp> some of them already seem to be known though, but still named 'unk?'
[11:32:18] <Fingolfin> but feel free to clean up more code :-) ppl did that already a lot, and also contributed my share :-)
[11:32:27] <wjp> :-)
[11:32:48] <wjp> it'll take a while before I've read up enough to be able to clean up anything :-)
[11:32:50] <Fingolfin> wjp: yeah, in that case, nobody was active enough to come up with an intelligent name :-) E.g. I recently renamed one unk* to fadeIn or something like that - much easier to read the code later :-)
[11:33:31] <Fingolfin> or the walk code: we had constants for the bits 1, 2, 4, 8 - the code didn't use them, though. Near to impossible to understand what's going on this way. I changed the code to use the constants, and now I understand the walk code, at least to great parts (I believe... :-)
[11:33:39] <Fingolfin> wjp: certainly!
[11:34:06] <Fingolfin> wjp: as usual, feel free to bug Endy or me... I will not know many things, but I do know my share anyway
[11:35:44] <wjp> I think I'll go name some entries from 'FillOrCopyStruct'
[12:45:39] * Darke curls up to sleep. Night all.
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[12:45:51] <wjp> g'night
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[13:45:27] <wjp> hi
[13:50:38] <Colourless> hi
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[19:05:42] <wjp> hi
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[19:06:02] <Dominus> hi
[19:15:30] <Fingolfin> hi
[19:22:47] <Dominus> http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/wireless/2002/08/01/highway_lan.html
[19:28:40] <wjp> ooh, nice, runaway link on page 2 :-)
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[21:17:40] <Darke|afk> Morning. Hmm... looks like a quiet night.
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[23:15:53] <wjp> hi
[23:16:03] <Dark-Star> hiya!
[23:16:16] <Dark-Star> finally I got my DSL flat ;-)
[23:18:22] <wjp> nice :-)
[23:18:22] <Dominus> hi
[23:18:28] <Dominus> pfffff
[23:18:32] <wjp> hm, I should really be going
[23:18:34] <wjp> 'night
[23:18:37] <Dominus> I'm losing my cable on 31.08.
[23:18:47] <Dark-Star> g'night wjp...
[23:18:52] <Dominus> bye
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[23:19:03] <Dark-Star> Dominus: why that?
[23:20:00] <Dominus> they had this thing called "no download limit but fair use" and after being warned of downloading too much last month, I didn't lower my transfer volume enough
[23:20:36] <Dark-Star> oh. hmm I hope that doesn't happen to me... I downloaded a whole 2 gig in the first 2 days :)