#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 4 Sep 2002 (GMT)

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[08:43:28] <Dominus> hi
[08:44:57] <Dominus> I found a very useful newsgroup server: news.gmane.org with discussions on sdl, mingw, gcc and so on
[08:45:13] <Dominus> in the sdl one, Exult is mentioned
[08:58:56] <Darke> Hi Dominus. Ooooh!
[08:59:02] <Dominus> hi
[09:03:24] <Darke> Anything interesting of note? Or just a chance mention?
[09:03:44] <Dominus> someone asking about compiling exult for Wince
[09:04:47] <Dominus> I replied that Colourless is looking into it, using theMS development tools and that it will require more than just getting it to compile for Wince to make it run (controls)
[09:05:02] <Dominus> I also pointed the guy to this channel
[09:06:35] * Darke nods. Cool.
[09:30:55] <Dominus> from #uwadv but a very good read http://www.tiscali.co.uk/games/features/2002/04/16/gamesthatchangedtheworldultimaunderworld.html
[09:35:35] * Darke thwaps away the dozen cookies it throws in his face and declines the Javascript popup, then _finally_ begins to read.
[09:35:50] * Dominus did the same :-)
[10:37:47] <Dominus> bbl
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[10:59:07] <Darke> Hiya.
[11:01:38] <Colourless> hi
[12:09:24] <Colourless> time to download a really big file... really slowly :-)
[12:11:00] <Colourless> for me though, the speed is pretty good. holding at over 5 kbps
[12:15:06] <Darke> Cool. *grin*
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[13:13:55] <GNUChild> just received 0.99.1rc2-1 on upgrade with sid
[13:46:09] * Darke bows and pawwaves. Night all!
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[14:23:37] <Colourless> only 98 Megabytes to go!
[14:32:44] <Colourless> 90!
[14:33:05] <Colourless> actually not 90 :-)
[14:47:37] <Colourless> 89! (really it is :-) )
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[14:51:56] <Dominus> hi
[14:52:03] <Colourless> hi
[14:55:07] <Dominus> and what are you downloading ? :-)
[14:55:46] <Colourless> visual studio 6 service pack 5
[14:55:57] <Dominus> ugh
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[16:21:17] <Dominus> brb
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[16:38:37] <wjp> hi
[16:38:41] <Dominus> hi
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[18:32:25] <artaxerxes> hi
[18:32:55] <artaxerxes> I've got an issue in SI in the Isle of Crypts.... Please help! :/
[18:32:57] <Dominus> hi
[18:33:01] <artaxerxes> Hi Dominus
[18:33:12] <Dominus> shoot, what's up there
[18:33:36] <artaxerxes> I'm in front of the Hierophant and I'm supposed to cast Summon Shade. I do but it poofed.
[18:34:04] <Dominus> you need certain items like the serpent staff
[18:34:25] <Dominus> there was a discussion on this not long agao in the forum about this
[18:34:33] <artaxerxes> extract from the walkthrough:
[18:34:36] <artaxerxes> Read the book on the pedestal in the library; teleported to
[18:34:36] <artaxerxes> another chamber with the Chaos Serpent Eye (cast dispel
[18:34:36] <artaxerxes> field to get it). Behind the serpents on the north wall is a
[18:34:36] <artaxerxes> secret Wall. This leads to a teleporter.
[18:34:36] <artaxerxes> You're teleported to the Great Hierophant's crypt. Cast
[18:34:37] <artaxerxes> Summon Shade to speak with him. He instructs you to get the
[18:34:39] <artaxerxes> Staff, Armour and Crown of the Great Earth Serpent. To
[18:34:41] <artaxerxes> restore
[18:35:15] <Dominus> that is actually a bug in the usecode for me and a not thorough walkthrough
[18:35:44] <artaxerxes> Xenka told me to go to the Isle of Crypt and so am I.
[18:36:22] <artaxerxes> I'm gonna dissicate usecode...
[18:36:24] <Dominus> you need some(all?) of those to summon shade on him and then he will tell you that you need all those artifacts to finish the game
[18:36:36] <artaxerxes> weird
[18:37:07] <Dominus> make sure you have the blackrock serpents, earrings, amulet, staff and maybe armore
[18:38:41] <Dominus> that walkthrough is posing troubles as it doesn't mention to get the staff before but you need it
[18:40:07] <artaxerxes> who should tell me to have the staff
[18:40:27] <artaxerxes> (that is, how am I supposed to know in the game that I should have it with me?)
[18:40:58] <Dominus> well, someone tells you that you need the artifacts (I think). And if you explored the cave east to monitor you should have found it on your own...
[18:41:37] <artaxerxes> noone told me to have artifacts. Actually, it is THIS guy who is supposed to tell me to have those artifacts.
[18:42:36] <Dominus> but when you obtain the spell you get explained that you need personal items of the intended target
[18:44:21] <artaxerxes> true.
[18:44:25] <artaxerxes> that's all I know
[18:44:34] <artaxerxes> well... I'll go get the staff then.
[18:45:11] <Dominus> if you really want to you can dissect the usecode to find out the exact answer...
[18:46:51] <artaxerxes> ok... that was it.. I needed the staff
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[18:57:57] <Colourless> hi
[18:58:30] <Dominus> wb
[18:58:39] <Dominus> that was a rather long brb
[18:59:19] <wjp> hi
[18:59:32] <wjp> hm, why is it always the staff? :-)
[19:00:21] <Dominus> because everyone is reading the same walkthrough that doesn't mention to get the staff right when you are donw with monitor
[19:00:37] <Colourless> yeah well it was longer than i expected too
[19:00:43] <Dominus> even if it is a failing of the game itself, the walkthrough should mention that
[19:01:29] <Colourless> i think it kind of shows that people aren't playing the game properly :-)
[19:01:42] <Colourless> then again, some people who do play the game properly still don't get the staff
[19:02:01] <Dominus> yes, how can you miss the cave and not explore it...
[19:02:09] <Colourless> of course even the first time i played the game i cleared out the place of the troll and grabbed the staff on my way through
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[20:18:45] <Dominus> I can't get Exult to start a new game. Wonder if I should start bugging Jeff to take a look at Studio again...
[20:30:00] <wjp> hm, an entirely new game?
[20:30:32] <Dominus> according to docs/newgame.txt it should be possible
[20:31:12] <wjp> hm, I should try that :-)
[20:31:13] <Dominus> with editing set to yes exult should skip looking for mainshp.flx but it fails on startup looking for that file
[20:31:36] <Dominus> wjp: start exult studio and let it create a new game
[20:31:53] <Dominus> needs the exultstudio data in our data dir
[20:32:48] <wjp> ugh, that doesn't work if there's a 'CVS' directory in there
[20:33:13] <wjp> hm, or maybe it does work
[20:33:48] <Dominus> it should now make changes to exult.cfg and have the path to the new game
[20:34:02] <Dominus> starting with --game gamename should work
[20:36:34] <wjp> yes, it seems to be missing some files
[20:36:40] <wjp> shpdims.dat specifically
[20:37:16] <Dominus> it even fails with all of bg static files in there
[20:37:53] <Colourless> if i'm not mistaken, new game is based off of the si code...
[20:38:05] <Dominus> ah yes?
[20:38:19] <Dominus> I thought it was based off bg..
[20:38:23] <Dominus> I'll try that
[20:39:16] <Dominus> dies as well
[20:39:34] <wjp> I think it is a bit of a BG/SI mix, actually
[20:39:56] <wjp> depending on if we used "if (SI)" or "if (!BG)" :-)
[20:40:00] <Dominus> according to newgames.txt yes
[20:42:32] <wjp> artaxerxes: did you read about the fixed point ogg vorbis codec from xiph.org, btw?
[20:45:27] <Dominus> oops, seems to be case sensitive
[20:45:31] <artaxerxes> yup... I am d/l the source to play Ogg on zaurus
[20:45:49] <artaxerxes> work in progress though
[20:45:53] <artaxerxes> and btw, wb Colourless
[20:46:01] <Dominus> I had pointed it to --game xultima but in exult.cfg it was Xultima
[20:46:01] <Colourless> :-)
[20:46:42] <artaxerxes> yooho... just finished SI on the zaurus!
[20:46:53] <Dominus> cool
[20:47:35] <artaxerxes> just reloading to replay it... :)
[20:50:59] <artaxerxes> it doesn't mix very well sound + sfx + voice btw... pretty tough on the ears..
[20:51:33] <Dominus> about the new game, now I get all kinds of missing dat files errors
[21:11:24] <artaxerxes> gotta go
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[23:54:25] <wjp> night
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