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[14:31:19] <Colourless> hi
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[14:51:59] <Colourless> hi
[14:52:07] <wjp> hi
[15:23:32] <Colourless> the balthazar fight was a real disappointment this second time. I didn't even use any spells on him. i just got everyone to attack, and he was promptly killed.
[15:25:39] <wjp> hm, which one was that again?
[15:25:40] <wjp> the monk?
[15:25:45] <Colourless> yes
[15:26:06] <wjp> I had to do that one at least 10 times when I played it
[15:27:20] <Colourless> i swear it was hard too. I just went in totally unprepared and wasn't even trying. i was expecting to die, but instead killed him pretty convincingly
[15:29:30] <wjp> which level are you by now?
[15:29:38] <Colourless> i was 40 :-)
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[15:29:52] <wjp> still? :-)
[15:29:57] <wjp> or is that the cap?
[15:30:05] <Colourless> xp cap
[15:30:33] <Colourless> of course... removing the cap and i became level 50
[15:30:50] <Colourless> some 12 million experience will do that
[15:31:01] <wjp> 50 is really insanely high :-)
[15:31:03] <wjp> (40 is too, for that matter...)
[15:31:45] <Colourless> yeah, it's insane
[15:32:05] <Colourless> it was funny to install the xp cap and it did 10 level ups instantly
[15:32:22] <Colourless> it wanted me to choose 10 special abilities, but i could only actually choose 9 :-)
[15:32:33] <wjp> oops :-)
[15:32:44] <wjp> could you continue without selecting all?
[15:32:48] <Colourless> yes
[15:33:44] <Colourless> if i could get to level 51, which i couldn't it says the next level is at experience -1, then i maybe would have had 2 abilities to choose
[15:34:01] <Colourless> but hey, i was just messing around :-)
[15:34:47] <Colourless> my character by the end of the game this second time, was a hell of a lot different than the character i started with back in bg1.
[15:35:16] <wjp> you mean he was a god? ;-)
[15:36:30] <Colourless> ssh, you shouldn't spoil it 'that' much for people :-)
[15:37:00] <Colourless> I started prefering to use a long bow. Now though, i'm use a 2h sword (carsomyr+6), or 2 single handed weapons :-)
[15:37:14] <wjp> BG2 is old enough to spoil :-)
[15:37:22] <wjp> carsomyr?
[15:37:24] <wjp> hm, doesn't ring a bell
[15:37:39] <wjp> (+6... *sigh* :-) )
[15:38:19] <Colourless> you get the +5 version from Fitzgraag (sp is wrong i think)
[15:38:33] <Colourless> and cespenar can upgrade it to +6
[15:38:42] <Colourless> Equipped Abilities:
[15:38:42] <Colourless> 50% Magic Resistance
[15:38:42] <Colourless> Dispel magic 3 times per day
[15:38:42] <Colourless> Combat Abilities:
[15:38:42] <Colourless> +6 damage to chaotic evil opponents in addition to other bonuses.
[15:38:42] <Colourless> Dispels magic whenever the sword strikes an opponent
[15:39:17] <wjp> hm, mages must love having that sword hit them :-)
[15:40:20] <Colourless> anyway, the 1h weapons that i was using were: Spectral Brand +5 (has negetive plane protection)
[15:40:24] <Colourless> Flail of Ages +5
[15:40:47] <wjp> ah, that was that DIY flail, right? :-)
[15:41:00] <Colourless> The Answerer +4 (each hit lowers opponents magic resistance by 15% + applies -2 penalty to opponents AC)
[15:41:01] <Colourless> yes it was
[15:41:23] <wjp> I think I lost that one going from BG2->ToB
[15:43:03] <wjp> I have to wonder how on earth you'd work a flail with 5 heads...
[15:43:29] <wjp> kind of surprising you don't need an exotic weapon proficiency for it :-)
[15:44:44] <Colourless> and the final weapon i was using was the Angurvadal +5 (has immunity to level drain, and gives 22 str)
[15:45:12] <Colourless> also does 1D4+1 fire damage, in addition to it's normal 1D8+5 slashing damage
[15:45:15] <wjp> nice
[15:45:48] <wjp> 22 str is nice :-)
[15:46:14] <wjp> in 3rd ed. d&d that alone would give you +6 to hit and +6 damage...
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[15:48:43] <Colourless> when fighting balthazar i had Angurvadal +5 in my right hand, and Answerer +4 in my offhand
[15:49:14] <Colourless> i was also equiped with Montolio's Cloak (+2 THAC0 with off hand among other things)
[15:50:09] <Colourless> and Wondrous Gloves (+1 THAC0)
[15:50:58] <Colourless> every hit i would make, would then make it easier to hit him again
[15:51:15] <Colourless> which is why perhaps it was 'easy'
[15:51:37] <wjp> -2AC on every hit?
[15:51:43] <Colourless> yes
[15:52:04] <Colourless> assuming i could actually hit though
[15:52:18] <wjp> very powerful ability...
[15:52:30] <Colourless> Speed Factor: 9 though
[15:53:00] <Colourless> Angurvadal +5 on the other hand has Speed Factor: 0
[15:53:01] <Colourless> :-)
[15:53:17] <wjp> how does that work with two-handed fighting?
[15:53:30] <Colourless> i have no real idea :-)
[15:53:39] <Colourless> i don't know enough about the rules to say
[15:53:41] <wjp> do you just swing both weapons at their own speed?
[15:53:49] <Colourless> yes
[15:53:57] <wjp> I wonder if 'speed factor' is real AD&D
[15:54:07] <wjp> 3rd ed D&D doesn't have it
[15:54:07] <Colourless> but you obviously take a THAC0 penalty for both.
[15:54:37] <wjp> -2 main hand, -4 off hand in 3rd
[15:54:37] <wjp> (IIRC)
[15:54:56] <Colourless> sounds about right
[15:56:02] <Colourless> -2 and -6
[15:56:10] <Colourless> (with 1 proficency)
[15:58:09] <wjp> hm, no, that -2/-4 was wrong
[15:59:33] <wjp> it depends on a lot of factors it seems :-)
[15:59:37] <wjp> normal case is -6/-10 :-)
[16:00:08] <wjp> (that's if you're not a ranger, and don't have any of the two-weapon fighting feats)
[16:04:56] <Colourless> do you know what xp you would need for level 50 in 3rd ed?
[16:05:03] <wjp> no
[16:06:00] <Colourless> what sort of stupid question to ask was that anyway :-)
[16:06:03] <wjp> although at least up to level 20 it's level 2 at 1k, 3 at 3k, 4 at 6k, 10k, 15k, 21k, etc...
[16:06:12] <Colourless> it's not like every class levels up at the same rate :-)
[16:06:19] <wjp> in 3rd every class does
[16:06:25] <Colourless> ah
[16:06:30] <Colourless> neat :-)
[16:06:56] <wjp> they gain special abilities at different rates, though
[16:25:19] <Colourless> according to my calcs (from info i found) level 50 in 3d ed would only require 9450000 xp. Which is actually less than what i've got
[16:25:42] <Colourless> but that info might be wrong
[16:52:13] <Colourless> going now
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