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[01:54:41] <Ordoc> wooo
[01:54:50] <Ordoc> one step closer to a job and being out of school for the summer :)
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[02:27:48] <Airsoul> good, ordoc
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[02:59:47] <sbx> :)
[03:06:16] <Sevalecan> squish
[03:15:22] <sbx> what did you squish?
[03:26:38] <Sevalecan> hmmm
[03:27:14] <Sevalecan> On the subject of the channel, and the fact that I wasn't even thinking or had any idea of what I was squishing.... I'm trying to come up with an ultima related object that one would squish ;P
[03:28:45] <Sevalecan> I suppose it could be a bug, this channel being of exult, and exult being that wich was programmed :P
[03:29:06] <Sevalecan> I should stop talking now, because I'm making myself look wierd. :D
[03:39:05] <sbx> um
[03:39:14] <sbx> Spoon!
[03:39:23] * sbx points to #pentagram.
[03:42:53] <Sevalecan> forgot about that project 8)
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[06:08:24] <sbx> hi Baastuul
[06:23:18] <Baastuul> Hi, sbx.
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[06:37:10] <Baastuul> Hi, Ordoc.
[06:42:38] <Ordoc> hi
[06:43:00] <Ordoc> hows it going
[06:46:10] <Baastuul> Pretty good. I'm just writing an essay. :/
[06:46:57] <Ordoc> sounds fun
[06:47:00] <Ordoc> a real essay
[06:47:03] <Ordoc> or a highschool essay? :)
[06:47:18] <Ordoc> i just checked out the nuvie source from cvs
[06:51:15] <Baastuul> Well, I'm in high school, but I'm writing a college-level essay because the class I'm in is a class that goes through a college curriculum so that I can get college credit. :)
[06:56:06] <Baastuul> But it's basically just an analysis of Herman Melville's short story "Bartleby the Scrivener."
[06:57:20] <Ordoc> heh
[06:57:31] <Ordoc> read this: http://www.paulgraham.com/essay.html
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[07:01:41] <Baastuul> Cool :)
[07:01:44] <Baastuul> Reading it now
[07:01:59] <Ordoc> his essays are really interesting
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[07:04:14] <Baastuul> A lot of what I have written in high school has been about "symbolism in Dickens," as he puts it, but I've written on numerous other topics.
[07:04:30] <Baastuul> My essay assignments aren't nearly as pointless this year and last year as they were the first two years.
[07:07:08] <Ordoc> hehe
[07:07:25] <Baastuul> Thanks for this link, by the way, I think I'll show it to my English teacher tomorrow. :)
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[10:05:48] <servus> An Ultima-related object to squish? Sherry!
[10:06:12] <servus> Or a spider in Pagan. Squish squish!
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[14:31:05] <Airsoul> what exactly does a kidney belt do other than that it keeps me from attaching a bag to my paperdoll?
[14:31:56] <Airsoul> btw. i just realized you implemented the serpent isle paperdolls in black gate. this is great. all in all, the game feels top notch
[14:32:40] <wjp> it just adds a bit of armour
[14:32:47] <wjp> not worth it, IMO
[14:33:06] <[DarKrusheR]> btw
[14:33:12] <[DarKrusheR]> is there any download for exult3d?
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[14:43:50] <Colourless> no idea where to download exult3d, and it is technically a license violation (*glares* no source code!)
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[14:55:22] <servus> http://sammatthews.com/files/Exult3D-Src.rar
[14:55:46] <servus> Didn't realize it was eating you up so bad; you could've just asked : oP.
[14:56:18] <servus> Probably some missing stuff in there. I'll package something better later. In a bit. I'm late for work! Bye!
[15:08:42] <Colourless> :-)
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[15:11:30] <[DarKrusheR]> servus`> how should i compile it?
[15:11:36] <[DarKrusheR]> 'make' ?
[15:13:42] <[DarKrusheR]> there isn't any make file or anything...
[15:35:38] <Airsoul> hehe
[15:35:58] <Airsoul> hello, i want to buy a mercedes - sure, here's all the tiny parts. might be missing a screw or two
[16:14:47] <[DarKrusheR]> :(
[16:46:03] <trand> hi
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[17:21:57] <Airsoul> i recently played the great german rpg gothic 2, which has a built-in addon (night of the raven), integrated into the game much like the forge of virtue and the silver seed in ultima 7. in the addon, you stumble across a wall with writing in these very familiar runes: 10http://img94.exs.cx/img94/6782/gothic2ultima4us.jpg
[17:24:07] <sbx> i've heard of it
[17:24:18] <Airsoul> translates to german though
[17:24:44] <Airsoul> anyway, the game itself ist great
[17:25:21] <sbx> gothic is in english too
[17:25:32] <sbx> ooh that screenshot is nice
[17:25:53] <sbx> interesting looking environment
[17:25:55] <Airsoul> yup, i just don't know if they're gonna rewrite the runic texture for the addon
[17:27:42] <Airsoul> i replayed it when i got my new computer, it's great in 1600x1200
[17:28:01] <Airsoul> i should make some more screenshots
[17:28:55] <Airsoul> anyway, the gothic games were made by fans for fans. you can really feel throughout the game, that they were especially fond of ultima, too
[17:30:14] <sbx> i've heard that
[17:30:19] <sbx> or read it
[17:30:23] <sbx> which one is better?
[17:30:26] <sbx> gothic 1 or 2
[17:30:40] <Airsoul> i like gothic 2 more
[17:31:35] <Airsoul> although they're both great. don't know where to start
[17:33:21] <Airsoul> very immersive gameplay with intelligent npcs, who have daily schedules, note thefts, even draw their weapons and attack monsters when they're too close
[17:33:41] <Airsoul> it's basically what ultima 9 should at least have tried to be
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[17:37:12] <sbx> you can have fun luring monsters into town? :)
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[17:47:33] <Airsoul_> err... i can't find my other instance of irc
[17:51:40] * sbx points to Airsoul.
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[17:52:43] <Airsoul_> yeah i just can't find it here under windows. i see the process running but not the task (or systray icon)
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[17:54:02] <Airsoul> anyway, you can lure monsters into town, but the town guards who guard the town gate will draw their swords, yell "oh, another of these damn beasts!" and attack
[17:54:35] <Airsoul> you can transmute into monsters yourself, i didn't even try to enter a town as a wolf or something like that. the guards would probably attack me then
[17:55:25] <sbx> hehe that sounds really cool
[17:55:37] <sbx> u9 definately should have had that (although previous ultimas didnt even do it)
[17:55:41] <Airsoul> you can make your own swords, too. similar to ultima 7, just that it's a skill that you can train
[17:56:20] <Airsoul> i have to make some more screenshots. those on the web all look so ugly with their low resolutions
[17:58:46] <sbx> how far does it scale?
[17:59:04] <sbx> 1600x1200?
[17:59:13] <sbx> i've never played any game at that resolution
[18:01:20] <Airsoul> i think it's max
[18:01:43] <Airsoul> i can play vice city in 1920x1440 but gothic2 won't go that far
[18:03:33] <dolny> heh
[18:03:37] <dolny> i play in 1024 :)
[18:03:51] <dolny> my linux desktop is 1152
[18:03:57] <Airsoul> i used to play in 1024, too
[18:04:16] <Airsoul> it's okay, but when i play older games, i like to get the maximum out of my system
[18:07:59] <Airsoul> okay, got my powerful screenshot tool running now
[18:15:02] <Airsoul> not my pic, but concerning monsters in town (done with cheat mode though!): 10http://mitglied.lycos.de/catlikethief/hpbimg/Nur%20den%20Valentino%20bitte.jpg
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[18:19:12] <dolny> well
[18:19:15] <dolny> looks coolo
[18:19:21] <dolny> if you can throw some monsters
[18:19:23] <dolny> into town
[18:19:29] <dolny> i love being able to do weird things
[18:19:35] <dolny> freedom is the most important
[18:19:38] <dolny> thats why i love fallout
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[18:23:44] <sbx> eh
[18:23:49] <sbx> it looks like the monsters are winning
[18:23:54] <sbx> in that town
[19:06:10] <Airsoul> i just tried the cheat mode, it's really weird. it allows you to switch places with every being you focus. so you can play a monster and the town guards will really attack you. well, they even attacked me as a sheep :)
[19:06:26] <Airsoul> made a bunch of screenshots, gotta get into my imageshack account again
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[19:30:38] <Airsoul> first bunch: town guard attacks sheep: 10http://img39.echo.cx/img39/9747/gothic2355qo.jpg 1mercenary base on a farm: 14http://img39.echo.cx/img39/7573/gothic2348uu.jpg 1switched to an evil seeker: 10http://img258.echo.cx/img258/4463/gothic2333mh.jpg
[19:32:31] <Airsoul> 1viewing inventory in a tomb: 10http://img195.echo.cx/img195/9927/gothic212ds.jpg 1tavern in the evening: 14http://img225.echo.cx/img225/4189/gothic2305lz.jpg 1eremite at night: 10http://img39.echo.cx/img39/1271/gothic230ti.jpg
[19:34:58] <Airsoul> uptown view using cheatmode: 14http://img39.echo.cx/img39/2527/gothic245np.jpg 1town guard exercising: 10http://img39.echo.cx/img39/2526/gothic287wb.jpg 1farmland crossing: 14http://img39.echo.cx/img39/2475/gothic255vx.jpg
[19:36:51] <Airsoul> 1superman: 10http://img39.echo.cx/img39/2481/gothic2110eh.jpg 1smith and apprentice, town guard patrolling in lower right: 14http://img39.echo.cx/img39/6821/gothic2133lr.jpg
[19:37:20] <Airsoul> probably the lamest way to up some screenhots :)
[19:37:28] <sbx> switch bodies that's a great cheat I've wanted in ultima games
[19:37:56] <Airsoul> shouldn't you be able to implement it?
[19:38:41] <Airsoul> aiming at an npc, "get the shape of this npc, get the inventory of this npc"
[19:39:48] <sbx> you mean exult? i dont work for them I'm just a fan
[19:39:54] <sbx> i dont know anything about the code of exult
[19:40:09] <Airsoul> oh, confused you with j** and... well wjp is here
[19:40:21] <sbx> it's probably not a priority for anyone on the team :)
[19:40:31] <sbx> you can "polymorph" though
[19:40:42] <sbx> and change your shape
[19:40:48] <Airsoul> i don't know anything about that either. but i guess it would be possible to implement, although yes, probably unnecessary for most people
[19:40:53] <sbx> but guards wont attack just like they dont attack any enemies
[19:41:32] <Airsoul> yeah that's origin's fault. the guards just attack you when you're bloodhunting crippled beggars in paws etc.
[19:42:51] <Airsoul> another thing about gothic2: the npcs around you talk. they say generic stuff like "i could have told him that", "just look at his dress", "i wonder where all this will lead" etc. but it really adds to the atmosphere
[19:43:01] <sbx> the guard in gothic look roman
[19:43:10] <sbx> heh
[19:43:14] <sbx> thats always a good feature
[19:43:16] <Airsoul> and they comment on the weather, which i saw a resident of paws do earlier in exult, too :)
[19:43:26] <sbx> when I make an RPG I'll definately add lots of inane comments
[19:44:13] <Airsoul> when you enter an npc's hut, he will shout something like "get outta there" and if you don't, draw his weapon and beat you till you get out
[19:44:47] <Airsoul> really, the guards look roman
[19:44:57] <sbx> the costume
[19:45:07] <Airsoul> yeah i hadn't thought of that but it's right
[19:45:17] <Airsoul> they are major pricks though
[19:45:34] <sbx> aren't they on your side? :)
[19:45:52] <Airsoul> if you choose to join the militia, yes
[19:46:02] <Airsoul> this will end you up being a paladin
[19:46:43] <Airsoul> the two other branches are: mercenary/dragon hunter and adept/mage
[19:47:44] <Airsoul> gothic's quests aren't the stereotypical "bring me the flower of bliss to cure my ill rabbit and i will reward you with the helmet of shiny happiness +4 vs. evil attitude"
[19:49:03] <Airsoul> it's rather "this guy over there is hammering all day! go him up a little and tell him to stop"
[19:49:10] <Airsoul> (rough him up)
[19:49:53] <Airsoul> anyway, enough advertisement for gothic2
[19:50:33] * Airsoul goes back to Britannia (Black Gate)
[19:51:21] <sbx> getting to join different sides and get certain NPCs to like you, thats a good feature too
[19:51:34] <sbx> sorry I'm not compeltely paying attention here, I'm looking at U6Online too
[19:52:04] <Airsoul> u6online??
[19:53:33] <sbx> at this post specifically http://kaldosh.kicks-ass.net:8080/default/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=89
[19:54:01] <sbx> of course, there is no resemblance to U6 in that
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[20:35:08] <dolny> there is no linux version :(
[20:35:15] <dolny> i tried to run it through wine -didn't work
[20:50:09] <Airsoul> i never heard of ultima 6
[20:50:16] <Airsoul> (online)
[20:50:20] <Airsoul> gonna try that now
[20:50:31] <Airsoul> since i have two copies (amiga and pc)
[20:53:26] <dolny> i never played ultimas when they
[20:53:27] <dolny> came out
[20:53:34] <dolny> i read about them and stuff
[20:53:41] <dolny> and though i was playing games
[20:53:44] <dolny> since 1989
[20:53:51] <dolny> or 1987
[20:53:57] <dolny> no, rather 1989
[20:53:58] <dolny> ;]
[20:54:14] <dolny> i never played any ultima until 2002 - Ultima Online
[20:54:21] <dolny> and then Ultima 7 in 2004 (wow!)
[20:54:30] <dolny> great game, love it as much asfallout or arcanum
[20:54:40] <dolny> gonna try ultima 6
[20:54:41] <Airsoul> same here
[20:54:56] <Airsoul> i like ultima 5 better :)
[20:55:07] <Airsoul> that was my first one on c64
[20:55:21] <dolny> never tried it
[20:55:23] <Airsoul> although 6 is nice with the colors
[20:55:30] <dolny> betrayal at krondor was greattt
[20:55:39] <dolny> wish they remaked it ;/
[20:55:47] <Airsoul> i just tried that once but didn't get into it
[20:55:56] <Airsoul> reminded me of drakkhen (amiga)
[20:55:56] <dolny> i tried 3 times
[20:56:02] <dolny> got hooked on 3rd time
[20:56:17] <dolny> u6o doesnt work on linux :/ they shouldve made a linux port
[20:56:35] <Airsoul> i'll create my character now
[20:56:44] <Airsoul> i hope you played both ultima 7 parts
[20:57:03] <dolny> yeah but didnt finish, played black gate mostly, i installed it on linux now but
[20:57:14] <dolny> the sound doesnt work for me + it works terribly slow
[20:57:21] <dolny> because of my gfx drivers i think
[20:57:33] <dolny> cause they didnt make a driver for my new kernel yet
[20:57:35] <dolny> gotta wait :(
[20:57:42] <dolny> linux is such a great system, but not supported
[20:57:50] <dolny> or POORLY supported;)
[20:59:05] <Airsoul> that's what i hear :)
[20:59:34] <dolny> i switched from windows 2 days ago :d
[20:59:42] <dolny> i used linux a couple of times
[20:59:45] <dolny> but for short periods
[20:59:53] <dolny> im gonna leave windows only 4 gamez
[21:00:55] <dolny> what time is it there? its 11 pm in poland
[21:01:03] <Airsoul> same here in germany
[21:01:11] <dolny> oh, germany.
[21:01:23] <dolny> i got used that 90% of people are from the states
[21:01:57] <Airsoul> texans :)
[21:02:18] <Airsoul> i came here some days ago since i completed serpent isle on exult for the first time
[21:02:28] <Airsoul> now i moved on to ultima 7
[21:02:31] <Airsoul> (black gate)
[21:02:49] <Airsoul> may be many americans here, but i've seen a few different names in the credits, too
[21:06:04] <sbx> who is rompage?
[21:07:40] <Airsoul> that was me
[21:07:49] <sbx> hehe sorry
[21:07:51] <Airsoul> i just ran around a little
[21:07:55] <Airsoul> the door was locked
[21:07:59] <sbx> I was in another window making an ascii map
[21:08:04] <sbx> for pieter's client
[21:08:18] <sbx> I am playing as TitusII right now.
[21:08:25] <sbx> only one other person online now
[21:08:47] <Airsoul> ah
[21:08:49] <Airsoul> i'm back in, too
[21:08:57] <sbx> ah k
[21:09:06] <sbx> it helps to play u6 first
[21:09:19] <Airsoul> finally seems to be brighten up
[21:09:29] <Airsoul> hehe yeah i feel quite at home
[21:11:14] <sbx> this client is slow and night effects slow it more
[21:11:38] <sbx> everyone is hoping they'll make NPCs stay at their shops longer and perhaps shorten nighttime
[21:12:45] <sbx> cant play it right now, going to play SystemShock2
[21:12:59] <sbx> dolny: I'm currently in the middle of Arcanum and Fallout2 games also.
[21:14:38] <Airsoul> system shock 2, nice!
[21:17:24] <dolny> ps
[21:17:30] <dolny> is this u6o any good?
[21:18:27] <Airsoul> hm... nostalgia maybe
[21:18:38] <dolny> havent played u6 yet ;d
[21:18:41] <dolny> bnut i like retro games
[21:18:44] <dolny> as long as they are good
[21:19:01] <Airsoul> it's funny to see ultima 6 after so many years
[21:19:03] <dolny> [damn im studying for a bi g test tomorrow, doh, have to wake up at 6 and i wont go to sleep probably)
[21:19:19] <Airsoul> hehe i know that
[21:19:34] <Airsoul> i mean i know these situations
[21:19:46] <dolny> and im playing with my linux ;)
[21:19:52] <dolny> a voice recognition program doesnt work
[21:20:02] <dolny> cause some god damn packages are in conflict
[21:20:04] <dolny> i hate that
[21:20:05] <dolny> ;]
[21:20:19] <dolny> i wanted to start irc by saying irc and opera browser by saying opera
[21:20:24] <dolny> doh..
[21:22:54] <Airsoul> that kinda makes linux a game in itself
[21:23:04] <Khelz> dumb question :) is there an exult version for pocket pc ?
[21:23:24] <wjp> not a working one
[21:23:38] <Khelz> so it's on the "nice to have" list ?
[21:24:08] <dolny> angelina jolie is on my 'nice to have' list
[21:24:18] <Khelz> that would be great to be able to play U7 everywhere :)
[21:24:26] <Khelz> dolny: haha :p
[21:24:51] <wjp> Colourless has done quite a bit of work on it, I think
[21:25:04] <wjp> but without a real pocketpc to use, there's only so much you can do
[21:25:16] <Khelz> oh yes of course :s
[21:28:52] <dolny> brb
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[21:35:59] <dolny> dolny back
[21:35:59] <dolny> dolny If anybody likes Tolkien
[21:35:59] <dolny> dolny ...and retro / old-school gaming
[21:35:59] <dolny> dolny www.middle-earth.us :) great atmosphere, the best MUD I've played my entire life
[21:35:59] <dolny> dolny ;>
[21:36:07] <dolny> i wrote that on wrong channel
[21:38:28] <Airsoul> there aren't even screenshots! ;)
[21:40:28] <dolny> ;)
[21:40:41] <dolny> i was bored with muds
[21:40:51] <dolny> but somehow i found that one and man...
[21:40:54] <dolny> wow.
[21:41:16] <dolny> peoples roleplay is awesome, stunning, amazing.
[21:41:24] <dolny> *people's
[21:43:04] <dolny> ps.
[21:43:05] <dolny> http://www.seattle-sound.com/trash/linux/irc.jpg
[21:43:06] <dolny> :)
[21:44:42] <dolny> make some screens from u6o
[21:44:43] <dolny> ;]
[21:46:05] <dolny> wjp: how are the works on exult3d going? is there going to be a pseudo-3d-exult version?
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[22:05:44] <Airsoul> scummvm hehe
[22:06:05] <Airsoul> retrogaming is healthy
[22:06:29] <Airsoul> can i make my mirc look similar to that?
[22:12:33] <dolny> i dont know whether there is a possibility to use a background in mirc, i doubt it
[22:12:33] <dolny> install linux ;]
[22:12:34] <dolny> make some u6o screen l][
[22:12:36] <dolny> s
[22:15:44] <Airsoul> 4if you can read this, you have to get laid! ;)
[22:17:37] <Airsoul> sorry, this was just for a screenshot
[22:17:55] <Airsoul> http://img205.echo.cx/img205/724/britannianirc0qw.jpg
[22:18:29] <Airsoul> d'uh, it's "need to get laid". damn language
[22:18:54] <Airsoul> would want a u6o screen?
[22:19:50] <sbx> I'm at the Mall on Recreation C now.
[22:19:57] <sbx> dolny: tried towers.angband.com?
[22:20:02] <Airsoul> i
[22:20:11] <Airsoul> 've played the two towers mud at university
[22:20:33] <sbx> i used to play it a lot, and made a giant map of it on my wall
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[22:22:13] <Airsoul> i only played when we had to sit in our cip pool
[22:22:32] <Airsoul> but i didn't get very far
[22:24:08] <Airsoul> hehe btw dolny, what paris hilton stuff were you doing in the right window?
[22:24:30] <Airsoul> one night in paris, is that "the tape"?
[22:27:03] <dolny> sbx no, i havent
[22:27:06] <dolny> airsoul
[22:27:08] <dolny> let me check ;]
[22:27:34] <dolny> airsoul: yeah ;)
[22:29:35] <dolny> i was bored, i installed the windows 'emulator' - that is why i used edonkey and then got bored
[22:29:48] <dolny> wrote smth like dvd rip in the search and here it is ;)
[22:30:44] <Airsoul> i'm using azureus only
[22:30:58] <Airsoul> not downloading much more than american tv shows these days
[22:31:01] <dolny> mi using azureus and very rarely - edonkey
[22:31:11] <dolny> i download music concert
[22:31:11] <dolny> s
[22:31:14] <dolny> alice in chains etc.
[22:31:27] <Airsoul> anyway i don't know if that kind of talk is welcome here
[22:31:38] <Airsoul> we should probably leave it at that :)
[22:31:44] <dolny> <nods>
[22:31:49] <Airsoul> alice in chains = great though
[22:31:57] <dolny> ha! somebody knows alice in chains
[22:32:02] <dolny> www.seattle-sound.com - my site :)
[22:32:10] <dolny> and you can download their last concert on dvd
[22:32:13] <dolny> there:
[22:32:16] <Airsoul> we played one of their songs as a cover rock brand some years ago
[22:32:21] <dolny> www.dimeadozen.org
[22:32:25] <dolny> man in the box ;) ?
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[22:32:42] <Airsoul> nah, something else. let me have a look
[22:33:16] <Airsoul> would?
[22:33:22] <dolny> ah, great song
[22:33:36] <dolny> about another great vocalist
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[22:33:43] <dolny> andy wood of mother love bone
[22:33:50] <dolny> you probably dont know him
[22:33:55] <Airsoul> no i don't
[22:33:58] <dolny> he died before the release of their first album, heh.
[22:34:12] <dolny> the guys from pearl jam played with him before PJ
[22:42:04] <dolny> tell me something about u6o :)
[22:48:15] <Airsoul> nah, playing black gate :)
[22:48:30] <Airsoul> have to look up if denby in britain is a good trainer
[23:05:00] <dolny> dont throw spoilers if anything
[23:05:01] <dolny> ;]
[23:05:12] <dolny> im learning :(
[23:05:18] <dolny> buty 90% of time im surfing
[23:10:21] <dolny> ill soon be going 2 sleep
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