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[11:13:13] <Fl00der> hi guys
[11:13:40] <Fl00der> jaahas....täällä on toinenkin suomalainen :P
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[14:32:03] <Colourless> hi
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[15:48:45] <wjp> hi
[15:49:17] <Colourless> hi
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[16:00:06] <Natassia> Hullo?
[16:01:48] <Colourless> hi
[16:02:26] <Natassia> Hey. How're you?
[16:03:08] <Colourless> i'm all right
[16:03:20] <Colourless> something we can do for you?
[16:04:37] <Natassia> Well... kind of. I'm not so good with computers. But I was reading on an old exult log two flags to change in Serpent Isle to fix Cantra's insanity. Any idea how I change the flags?
[16:05:20] <Colourless> you can use cheats to change it...
[16:06:03] <Natassia> Yuh... I ran the cheat manimal thing, but have no idea what menu's to use
[16:06:17] <wjp> are you using the original SI?
[16:06:22] <Colourless> you can't do it in the original, but you can in exult
[16:07:01] <Natassia> oh I see. Don't think this computer can handle exult =(
[16:07:04] <wjp> "Curing" Cantra doesn't really do much, though
[16:07:42] <Natassia> I know, but I kind of want to do it for completeness' sake.
[16:09:20] <wjp> She says: "I feel tired, but I am all right! My mind was full of awful dreams. Thou hast saved me! I shall remember thee always!"
[16:09:40] <wjp> and after that the conversation continues as if she never said that
[16:10:40] <wjp> also Harnna (her mother) can say: "I am so happy my daughter hath been found, resurrected by the monks, and that thou hast restored her mind."
[16:10:47] <Natassia> Yeah i know. Seen the screen shot. It's just not on having a little kid running about saying tose crazy lines
[16:11:03] <wjp> (note that I never actually managed to figure out what causes Harnna to say that)
[16:11:33] <Colourless> could be proximity to cantra
[16:11:54] <wjp> I don't remember seeing that in the usecode
[16:11:59] <wjp> it was just a couple of flags IIRC
[16:12:25] <wjp> but I think I was having some trouble figuring out when those flags were supposed to be set correctly
[16:14:21] <Natassia> You think it was just water of discipline she was supposed to have used on her?
[16:16:43] <Colourless> i have no idea myself.
[16:17:24] <wjp> it should be reasoned out somewhere online
[16:17:50] <Natassia> I have Mortegro in my party which someone was telling me earlier isnt supposed to happen.
[16:18:15] <wjp> He's supposed to be in your party for a short while
[16:18:28] <Colourless> he is supposed to get teleported away
[16:18:38] <wjp> Poor guy :-)
[16:19:51] <Colourless> could be worse, could be transmuted
[16:20:00] <Natassia> Odd, he just followed me outside after I spoke to him, so I spoke again and asked him to join and he did. At first when he died he teleported back to the ruins, but after the battle with Batlin he just acts like a normal part member except he refuses to leave.
[16:20:33] <Colourless> strange
[16:20:53] <Colourless> no matter how many time you walk out, he is still supposed to be teleported back
[16:21:16] <Natassia> when you ask him to leave he just says I promised to take him to moonshade and he won't leave. Even if you're in moonshade.
[16:21:36] <Colourless> that's because you are never supposed to be able to get him to moonshade
[16:21:47] <Natassia> He was outside when I asked him to join. He followed me a while after I first spoke like some NPC's do.
[16:22:41] <Natassia> So... he's just meant to be screwed and there's nothing to be done?
[16:23:10] <Colourless> well, if you want to get rid of him
[16:23:16] <Colourless> you can cheat to remove him from your party
[16:24:06] <Natassia> Do you think exult would run on a .... what is this... Athlon 166 I think... bit ancient
[16:24:41] <Colourless> I don't think you'd have an Athlon at a speed of 166 MHz
[16:25:02] <Colourless> they started at 450 MHz
[16:25:21] <Natassia> not athlon..... wrong piece of paper....
[16:25:26] <Natassia> here it is. K6
[16:25:27] <Colourless> if you have an AMD cpu (K5 or K6 perhaps) then, exult would probably run, but not greatly well
[16:26:04] <Natassia> bother
[16:30:27] <Natassia> and a game saved in exult won't work when I run the normal game either will it?
[16:30:50] <Colourless> no, they are not compatible
[16:31:13] <Colourless> so you can't use a game from the original in exult either
[16:31:47] <Natassia> ah well. Guess I'll live with crazy Cantra till I get a good computer
[16:35:53] <Natassia> Well, thanks for the help anyway.
[16:35:59] <Natassia> Night.
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[19:02:11] <Colourless> going
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[20:46:46] <wjp> hi Max
[20:46:55] <Fingolfin> hiya
[20:47:05] <wjp> I was thinking of updating the pentagram build system a bit
[20:47:37] <wjp> you mentioned you wanted to change the behaviour of make in subdirs, and we're not really adhering to the GNU coding standard for Makefiles by not allowing users to override things like CXXFLAGS
[20:49:07] <wjp> (not that I care _that_ much about the GNU coding standard, but this particular bit sounds useful :-) )
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