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[04:52:18] <EazyCheez> hey guys!
[04:52:48] <EazyCheez> juicy work on Pentagram! I can't wait to see it get further along. And hear that great intro!
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[11:05:01] <Colourless> hi
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[15:56:01] --- Topic for #exult is: There *is* no topic! *There* is no topic! There is *no* topic! There is no *topic*! (But if there was one, it would probably be about Exult 1.2.)
[15:56:01] --- Topic for #exult set by wjp at Wed Jun 16 22:42:33 2004
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[16:46:56] <wjp> Colourless: can you make any sense out of the problem from the "Thanks & Bug Report" email?
[16:48:44] <wjp> that screenshot is really weird
[16:50:17] <wjp> especially considering it suddenly disappeared after resetting exult.cfg
[16:56:17] <sbx> oh no I forgot to resubscribe to the exult ML
[16:56:48] <sbx> a year ago
[16:57:39] <sbx> the archive still looks like mostly spam
[16:58:03] <wjp> you didn't miss much
[16:58:49] <wjp> although looking at my mailbox it was actually quite busy (relatively)
[16:59:04] <wjp> 90 real mails since may
[16:59:48] <sbx> eek
[17:00:43] <sbx> do you know if the ML software has a command that will send me past messages?
[17:00:54] <sbx> this SF web interface is annoying
[17:03:10] <wjp> hm, no idea
[17:03:23] <wjp> you could try emailing 'help' to exult-general-request to see if that supports it
[17:03:52] <sbx> ok thanks
[17:06:51] <wjp> ooh, talk of a fork for multiplayer :-)
[17:07:20] <sbx> isn't that what it would be by definition?
[17:07:58] <wjp> yes, it would, but it's just that multiplayer talk got this 'far' :-)
[17:08:27] <sbx> yeah
[17:08:32] <wjp> bbl, dinner
[17:08:35] <sbx> ok
[17:12:28] <sbx> Colourless or wjp do you know if the client relationship of ExultStudio can be exploited to allow other players to connect?
[17:13:06] <sbx> Defining a client as either ExultStudio or ExultPlayer and using a different update function for players
[17:13:28] <sbx> this is not to mention any other engine considerations for multiplayer
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[17:30:02] <wjp> I think the current mechanism is limited to only one connection
[17:31:43] <sbx> ok I'll have to read more of the source
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[19:00:31] * Jammet sneaks in and curls up somewhere.
[19:00:43] <Jammet> ~Mew~ everyone =^_^=.
[19:01:25] <sbx> hi
[19:02:35] <Jammet> Hej sbx ...
[19:02:41] * Jammet wavies the tailtip.
[19:02:54] <sbx> Jammet: are you on the Exult Mailing List?
[19:03:01] <Jammet> Yeah...
[19:03:25] <Jammet> Though I haven't read everything on it, and the amount of spam on gives me frequent shocks =).
[19:03:56] <sbx> i havnt been for a year
[19:05:29] <Jammet> Do you need something from that list?
[19:07:00] <sbx> just everything that I missed
[19:07:10] <sbx> except the spam
[19:07:48] <sbx> Have you finished Serpent Isle?
[19:07:52] <Jammet> There probably is some kind of archive. It's been a lot of traffic, even without spam ... if you need something specific...
[19:08:43] <Jammet> Heh, it'll be a long time before I finish that. I'm on Erstam's isle and stuck again. The damn machine spits out all the body parts I found, the egg's already been used, and nothing happens, and the guy just insists that he'll need more time.
[19:10:28] <sbx> what does he say?
[19:11:00] <Jammet> Something to the effect: Put up and shut up, I'm busy.
[19:11:27] <sbx> you put all the body parts in?
[19:11:28] <Jammet> I found an icky torso, that talking head, one arm and two legs.
[19:11:44] <Jammet> And two hands. I found several arms but the machine just won't take'em.
[19:12:03] <sbx> i think you just need two arms
[19:12:05] <Jammet> At one point it's engine seemed to start moving but nothing happens.
[19:12:09] <sbx> most of the body parts are useless
[19:12:38] <Jammet> The last body part seems to be well hidden. I haven't found it, and I've been searching for an hour at least.
[19:12:56] <Jammet> I have lots of, ... spare parts, but none will be accepted.
[19:13:18] <wjp> hm
[19:13:25] <sbx> I think it's only the body parts that are non-wriggling
[19:13:26] <Jammet> Hej wjp =)
[19:13:32] <wjp> I think they're the forearm and the detached arm
[19:13:39] <wjp> they should be lying right next to the machine
[19:14:06] <Jammet> I'll get the nerve to pick up and stuff everything into the machine again for the x'th time this evening...
[19:14:13] <sbx> also make sure they go into the machine and not behind it :)
[19:14:19] <Jammet> I already tried just putting everything in, see what's left.
[19:14:27] <Jammet> =^_^= I'll try.
[19:15:22] * Jammet first thought you have to put in the animal legs on the dinner plates there... that didn't work either.
[19:15:43] * sbx tests it real quick.
[19:15:59] <Jammet> When I'm done with this I'll be sure to put the remaining body parts on the dinner plates.
[19:15:59] <sbx> how did you figure that?
[19:16:05] <sbx> haha
[19:16:06] <Jammet> Just guessing.
[19:16:23] <sbx> you could just do that whenever you confirm they wont go in the machine
[19:16:42] <wjp> machine works for me
[19:16:54] * Jammet reloads the scenario, one sec.
[19:16:59] <wjp> forearm lying on the barrel to left of the machine
[19:17:05] <wjp> detached arm lying to the right of the machine
[19:17:12] <wjp> torso in the chest to the left of the machine
[19:17:16] <wjp> head, well, the talking one :-)
[19:17:27] <wjp> two legs south of the machine
[19:17:30] <Jammet> They're all stacked on my savegame, I went out collecting wood for the campfire and body parts for Mr.Frankenstein here...
[19:17:36] <wjp> (legs are on the tables)
[19:18:29] <Jammet> Starting over. ..
[19:18:33] <Jammet> 1 detached arm is in.
[19:18:51] <Jammet> 1 torn leg is in.
[19:18:58] * sbx hears lightning bolts.
[19:18:59] <Jammet> 1 head ...
[19:19:11] <Jammet> 1 torso...
[19:19:12] * sbx feels the ground rumble.
[19:19:52] <Jammet> 1 more leg...
[19:20:03] <Jammet> And now I got no arms left that aren't wiggling.
[19:20:50] <sbx> try one of your own arms
[19:21:03] <Jammet> My own?
[19:21:07] <sbx> sorry :)
[19:21:31] <Jammet> The chickens ... yeah.
[19:21:50] <sbx> did you look in the box next to the thing
[19:21:52] <Jammet> Maybe the trophy.
[19:21:54] <sbx> and behind it
[19:22:01] <Jammet> Inside the box is the torso.
[19:22:07] <sbx> an extra?
[19:22:33] <Jammet> Barrel and Crate are empty, and he thinks already I'm stealin'.
[19:22:44] <Jammet> Nothing under there.
[19:22:48] <sbx> you must have lost the other arm somewhere
[19:23:02] <Jammet> I hate it when I lose body parts.
[19:23:14] <sbx> same here
[19:23:22] <sbx> i dont know how youll get it if its behind the machine
[19:23:27] <sbx> without hackmoving the machine
[19:23:58] * Jammet makes sad cub eyes and reloads a save from before he hadn't touched all of this.
[19:24:03] <Jammet> But I already did that twice...
[19:24:13] <sbx> ok
[19:24:17] <sbx> dont touch anything
[19:24:21] <sbx> just make sure they are all there first
[19:24:32] <sbx> where wjp said
[19:24:48] <Jammet> Okay now, I'm with Mr. Phoenix, he's happy. Leaving through the teleporter.
[19:25:39] <Jammet> At first glance ...
[19:25:49] <Jammet> One arm right to the machine, not moving.
[19:26:04] <Jammet> On the chemical table near the cauldron, one leg, not moving.
[19:26:21] <Jammet> On the table next to that, another leg, not moving.
[19:26:29] <Jammet> A head that begs me to talk.
[19:26:35] <Jammet> A crate with a torso inside.
[19:27:00] <sbx> there should be one on the barrel
[19:27:10] <Jammet> Nope.
[19:27:26] <Jammet> Nor inside.
[19:27:33] <sbx> Nor behind?
[19:27:42] <Jammet> There is nothing on or in the barrel.
[19:27:48] <Jammet> Nothing underneath the barrel.
[19:28:12] <sbx> Do you think you could have accidentally dragged it somewhere last time you were here?
[19:28:27] <Jammet> It's a possibility. I'll go back another save.
[19:28:59] <sbx> unless you already put it in
[19:29:00] <Jammet> Everyone on board turle express.
[19:29:03] <sbx> but then the machine would work
[19:29:26] <sbx> i thought your supposed to put the body parts in first
[19:29:27] <sbx> then the egg
[19:29:34] <sbx> but I guess it doesnt matter
[19:29:47] <Jammet> Okay there's a forearm on the barrel now.
[19:30:05] <sbx> those are all the parts
[19:30:16] <sbx> but now you have to do everything again :\
[19:30:57] <Jammet> Luckily it wasn't that much.
[19:31:11] * Jammet fast forwards through all the dialouge, including those kinda funny remarks of that servant.
[19:31:13] <sbx> i would have just cheated me a new arm
[19:31:54] <Jammet> I wonder if I'll ever need that dagger. He said it appeared where the apparatus was. Looks like a normal standard toothpick dagger to me.
[19:32:12] <sbx> it's your dagger
[19:32:19] <sbx> you don't need it for anything in particular
[19:32:27] <Jammet> I realize that, it's just there's nothing unique about it.
[19:32:54] * Jammet is glad the severed limbs aren't _really_ moving about.
[19:32:56] * Jammet mewls.
[19:33:03] <sbx> heh heh
[19:33:10] <sbx> i thought I remembered a poison dagger
[19:33:57] <Jammet> I have one, but somehow I don't use it.
[19:34:16] <sbx> I never did either. :) But I carried the thing through the entire game.
[19:34:28] <Jammet> Is it just me or is fighting in U7 something you don't need to prepare for except for good weapons and armor? I don't remember training much ...
[19:34:57] <Jammet> I always win, any battle, there's nothing really challenging there on 'normal', except that monsters usually bash on only one character a lot. =)
[19:35:23] <sbx> I lost a few times early in the game
[19:35:41] * Jammet nods. It doesn't matter much though. I'm sure there's monsters I don't stand a chance against.
[19:35:51] <sbx> well I mean goblins :)
[19:35:55] <sbx> they would all gang up on me
[19:36:03] <sbx> but I got smarter after that
[19:36:25] <sbx> and didnt rush into a pack of goblins
[19:37:45] <sbx> My preferred method of killing is with extreme force. Firedoom staff, Magic Hammer, Magic Bow, Magebane, Black Sword, and Lightning Whips
[19:38:12] <sbx> and at a distance if possible
[19:38:42] <Jammet> Okay, I quit at the start of the small dungeon there... (saved)
[19:38:53] <Jammet> Can't concentrate much now, and multitasking too =).
[19:39:00] <sbx> Did you do the goblin missions?
[19:41:37] <sbx> Hmm I suppose you would have to, SI being so linear.
[19:42:09] <Jammet> So far the only Goblin I've heard of was the spooky monstrum that scared people in Moonshade.
[19:42:17] <Jammet> Batlin's servant.
[19:43:19] <sbx> No they called that a Demon
[19:43:48] <sbx> I dunno this may have been years ago you played this part, way back in Monitor.
[19:45:20] <Jammet> Sure, but in Moonshade they didn't see such a guy before and they were all scared of him.
[19:46:58] <Jammet> So, no, I don't remember being around lots of Goblins yet. =)
[19:47:05] <sbx> that doesnt have anything to do with goblins
[19:47:06] <sbx> i mean the ones that terrorize monitor and fawn
[19:47:13] <Jammet> Ah, well, maybe I forgot.
[19:48:10] <sbx> oh whew...
[19:48:23] <sbx> I just looked in a walkthrough and you can do that in any order.
[19:48:35] <sbx> But you already "heard" about Goblins, you just forgot.
[19:49:08] <sbx> So I havn't spoiled anything. :)
[19:49:20] <Jammet> =^_^= Right.
[19:49:27] <Jammet> They didn't say "Goblins" but it eas quite clear to me who the guy in question was.
[19:49:31] <sbx> So did you go to Fawn?
[19:50:06] <Jammet> I remember a real bloodfest in some distant tribe-like village... they were eating .. well, humans.
[19:50:25] <Jammet> That was so icky, even the in game characters hat to throw up on the spot.
[19:52:08] <Jammet> I believe I was in Fawn, yes, but again, I've picked the game up and I will surely see that I have been somewhere when I get there again...
[19:52:11] <sbx> the goblin village sounds like that, if the villagers were goblins
[19:52:11] <sbx> but you would of had to know where your going to get there
[19:52:30] <Jammet> I - do - not - remember.
[19:52:38] <Jammet> I'll see it when it happens. =)
[19:52:44] * Jammet sorries.
[19:52:58] * Jammet tries desperately to avoid spoilers of any kind.
[19:53:33] <Jammet> The thing is that I've had multiple attemts at playing through this and I might mix up previous games with this one. So thinking that I've been somewhere where I really haven't been...
[19:53:41] <sbx> Ok no problem. My concern was that it already did happen and you've forgotten. :)
[19:54:20] <Jammet> I can't be sure, =) and I'll have to wait and see where the traces of Batlin and Gwenno lead me to. That's what I'm doing, I'm following them.
[19:54:37] <sbx> Hmm, didn't think about that. OK makes sense
[19:55:25] * Jammet purrs thankfully...
[19:55:34] <Jammet> Next stop is Monk Isle ...
[19:55:39] <Jammet> Looking forward to it.
[19:56:46] <sbx> The bells!
[19:59:56] <Jammet> Bells ...?
[20:00:05] <Jammet> I was ringing the Bells to get to Erstam.
[20:01:39] <sbx> You know the bells when you hear them.
[20:02:27] <Jammet> Okay.
[20:02:42] * Jammet thinks of Chrono Trigger's nice bells.
[20:02:45] * Jammet curls up and grooms.
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[20:43:50] <wjp> Colourless: somebody is 'calling' for you on the forums in the pocket pc updates thread
[20:44:43] <wjp> (somebody offering PPC programming skills)
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[21:37:53] <Colourless> yeah i've seen it
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