#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 6 May 2005 (GMT)

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[00:59:33] <sbx> damn... invincible protocol droid
[01:19:59] <servus> Airsoul: Wishurantym insanct tymhurex porortinnoxtym ortflam tymhurantym sanctcorprelexexnoxsancthurorttym?
[01:21:40] <servus> The reason I just posted the .cpp and .h files right there was because my Exult directory is 500MB after I did a make clean : o)
[01:22:06] <Airsoul> noxannoxex relexanlorlorylem :)
[01:22:30] <Airsoul> err noxortnoxex!
[01:22:50] <Airsoul> i shine at The Game though
[01:23:01] <Airsoul> just brushed up with chuck
[01:24:00] <servus> Lor, not lem.
[01:24:04] <Airsoul> oh, about exult3d? i didn't mean to sound rude there, i might play through it yet again when it's done
[01:24:08] <servus> You just lost THE GAME.
[01:24:14] <Airsoul> hehe
[01:24:23] <Airsoul> l is lor, y is ylem
[01:24:35] <servus> Oh. Missed the y. I'm very tired.
[01:24:48] <servus> Lem is a gargoyle word, IIR.
[01:24:49] <Airsoul> let's cut the game crap then
[01:25:01] <Airsoul> yeah. wislem = wise man
[01:25:15] <Airsoul> (some gargoyle in britain told me ten minutes ago!)
[01:26:16] <servus> So, I'm trying to package a better sourcepack for Exult3D. The file I provided /will/ work if you just unzip it over CVS 1.4
[01:26:58] <Airsoul> i don't even have linux but the guy who asked is probably still here
[01:31:19] <servus> Down to 143MB...
[01:31:25] <servus> Where is all of this *fluff* coming from?
[01:38:20] <servus> http://www.sammatthews.com/files/Exult3d-src-data-2005-05-05.rar models and a full source tree. Please do not download this unless you have a reason to!
[01:42:18] <servus> My new router's NAT configuration menu is completely JavaScript based. What sort of grrrrrrrrrr-ing grrrrrrrrrr-head makes a JavaScript-based router configuration!?
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[03:13:09] <sbx> servus: someone who plans on using IE to run it? :)
[03:13:29] <servus> It is imperative that router configurations be accessible through text-mode!
[03:13:50] <Colourless> [06:54] <wjp> Colourless has done quite a bit of work on it, I think
[03:13:50] <Colourless> [06:55] <wjp> but without a real pocketpc to use, there's only so much you can do
[03:13:56] <Colourless> yeah....
[03:14:06] <Colourless> worked in the emulator, crashes on the real thing
[03:31:55] <servus> I can play Ultima VII anywhere
[03:32:11] <servus> I have a pocket NES/Famicom. At least... the game is CALLED Ultima VII :P
[03:33:27] * Colourless shakes head
[03:33:43] <Colourless> i didn't know U7 was on nes
[03:33:47] <Colourless> i thought it was only onl snes
[03:34:27] <servus> Maybe it was SNES. Either way, though. It's horrid. Horrible. It has nothing to do with Ultima VII except for the tileset. It's really just a poor Final Fantasy clone, and I hate Final Fantasy.
[03:36:32] <Colourless> then you lied! :-)
[03:36:35] <Colourless> you don't have it
[03:37:39] <servus> I tried the ROM for 5 minutes out of curiousity, and deleted it in disgust.
[03:37:59] <servus> The point is, I could buy it if I really wanted :P
[03:54:02] <sbx> servus: A liar and a fiend, you take that back!
[03:54:37] <sbx> Even if you don't like Final Fantasy you can't say that SNES "Ultima 7" is even close to any FF game.
[03:55:06] <servus> All junk! Junk! Junk!
[03:55:41] <sbx> Lots of things are junk compared to Ultima.
[03:55:56] <sbx> U7 SNES isn't good enough for the junkpile.
[03:56:33] <Sevalecan> u7 snes was... interesting
[03:57:01] <Sevalecan> not that i played alot of it, forgot about it after i tried it :P
[03:57:17] <sbx> I admit I forgot most of it too thankfully.
[03:57:54] <servus> There were worse console Ultimas.
[03:57:58] <Ordoc> u6 was for snes also
[03:58:06] <sbx> Runes of Virtue?
[03:58:14] <servus> Isn't "Ultima" just Latin for "Final Fantasy"? :P
[03:58:27] <Ordoc> ultima vi - the false prophet (u).smc
[03:58:31] <Ordoc> ultima vii - the black gate (u).smc
[03:58:36] <sbx> I happen to like both series, they are just different.
[03:58:37] <Ordoc> ultima - runes of virtue 2 (u).smc
[03:58:43] <servus> I wonder if it even had anything to do with a black gate.
[03:59:01] <servus> i wanna get both golden zelda NES cartridges. My brother has 'em all
[03:59:03] <Ordoc> ultima 5 and exodus were on NES
[03:59:16] <Ordoc> and qoa
[03:59:22] <servus> But it'll be so *awesome* to be sitting down somewhere public and playing that thing, with the big cartridge sticking out of the machine.
[03:59:44] <sbx> i was thinking the runes of virtue for nes were pretty bad
[03:59:50] <sbx> but i didnt really play them
[03:59:56] <Ordoc> RoV wasn't for NES :)
[03:59:58] <Ordoc> it was for snes
[04:00:15] <sbx> it couldve been for snes
[04:00:19] <sbx> nes*
[04:00:21] <sbx> but you're right
[04:01:17] <sbx> Why havn't you played it in public yet, servus?
[04:01:35] <servus> I need to get the cartridges from my brothers, as I said *grin*
[04:01:43] <servus> I've only got Super Mario Brothers 2.
[04:01:54] <servus> While cool, and with distinctive music that people can recognize, it's not big and gold.
[04:02:06] <servus> Maybe I could get the smooth and shiny all-black Rolling Thunder cartridge
[04:02:24] <sbx> I've got zelda1 I think.
[04:02:33] <sbx> gold cartridge
[04:02:34] <servus> I've got 'em both... just not in my apartment
[04:03:01] <sbx> why does your borther have your games?
[04:03:10] <servus> That, and MegaMan
[04:03:17] <servus> Because they don't really "belong" to any of us in specific
[04:03:48] <Ordoc> kkk number: 1-770-967-3479
[04:06:59] <sbx> k
[04:10:01] <Ordoc> robot chicken is hilarious
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[04:20:45] <sbx> Ordoc: I agree!
[04:20:53] <sbx> but I already saw it so I didnt watch it just now
[04:21:12] <sbx> "Because of you dad! I did it because of you!"
[04:23:09] <Ordoc> bio final exam tommorow
[04:23:13] <Ordoc> dont think im gonna study though
[04:23:18] <Ordoc> i have to make like a 60 to keep a B
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[10:22:22] <Fl00der> hello
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[13:23:26] <Khelz> hi guys
[13:23:57] * Khelz congratulates the exult team for the wonderful job they are doing
[13:24:04] <Ordoc> poo
[13:24:37] <Ordoc> have, are, and will do
[13:24:53] <Khelz> exactly
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[13:37:03] <Khelz> where does the exut intro-music come from ?
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[13:49:28] <wjp> It's from Matt Kimmich (aka Thirith Dragon). See also http://cot.freeshell.org/aotdmus/
[13:49:56] <Khelz> thank you (it's very nice)
[13:51:48] <Khelz> what does the "midi conversion" in exult setup change ? can't find it in the faq
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[15:41:55] <Khelz> Colourless: anything in sight about an eventual port for PPC ?
[15:45:11] <Colourless> its impossible for me to debug it
[15:45:54] <Khelz> wait, you don't have a PDA right ? :)
[15:47:22] <Colourless> nope
[15:49:55] <Khelz> do you plan to buy one someday ?
[15:50:05] * Colourless shrugs
[15:50:09] <Colourless> maybe
[15:50:12] <Khelz> lol
[15:50:42] <Khelz> I want exult on my pda so bad that I could buy you one
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[16:19:28] <dolny> hey guys
[16:19:33] <dolny> i wanted to ask the exult3d
[16:19:39] <dolny> is it where the exult dev is going to
[16:19:43] <dolny> or is it a 'side project' ?
[16:23:17] <wjp> it's servus' project
[16:24:52] <Khelz> is exult working correctly with the french version of ultima7 black gate ?
[16:24:59] <wjp> it should
[16:25:12] <Khelz> very good :)
[16:26:44] <Khelz> wasn't there a french translation of SI on the work ?
[16:27:44] <dolny> damn i cant play exult until they
[16:27:49] <dolny> release new drivers for the new kernel ;/
[16:27:52] <dolny> (ATI)
[16:28:17] <Khelz> who was working on a french translation of SI already?
[16:28:30] <wjp> http://si-french.sourceforge.net/
[16:28:53] <wjp> as far as I know it's done, up to proof-reading
[16:33:20] <Khelz> oh geez :) that's great
[16:34:07] <Khelz> one last question: do you think english savegames will work with french savegames ? I mean are the savegames "language compatibles" ?
[16:36:58] <wjp> tough question :-)
[16:38:03] <Khelz> well I will try :D thanks again
[16:49:25] <Khelz> wow neat, playing both games in french, perfectly. Exult team rocks
[16:49:38] <dolny> hehe
[16:49:48] <dolny> i have to wait for the ati drivers boohoo ;(
[16:49:59] <Khelz> I will send bug reports for the french version of SI (if any)
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[21:14:05] <sbx> ugh
[21:14:08] <sbx> what did they do to Britannia
[21:14:12] * sbx is looking at a UO map.
[21:51:14] <Ordoc> made it online
[21:51:16] <Ordoc> BIG MISTAKE
[21:51:20] <Ordoc> everyone who likes ultima is a LOSER
[21:51:25] <Ordoc> shoulda kept it single player
[21:59:42] <sbx> everyone who likes ultima?
[22:00:49] <Ordoc> ultima online would have been good had it not been filled with people who didnt like the original ultimas
[22:01:15] <Ordoc> not sure what i was trying to say before
[22:01:35] <sbx> everyone who liked ultima was considered a loser on UO, or everyone who likes UO is a loser
[22:01:39] <sbx> anyway
[22:01:42] <Ordoc> who knows, im confused now
[22:01:42] <sbx> did you play it?
[22:01:47] <Ordoc> for a little while
[22:01:53] <Ordoc> my friend had an accoutn
[22:01:58] <Ordoc> it was riddled with cheaters at first
[22:02:13] <Ordoc> and people who would PK you at like level 1
[22:02:15] <sbx> where did all the people who didnt like Ultima come from?
[22:02:25] <Ordoc> sbx: novelty factor of the first MMORPG
[22:02:26] <sbx> and why wasn't Lord British enforcing the law?!
[22:02:36] <Ordoc> sbx: he was busy getting fired :)
[22:03:01] <Khelz> you just cannot have a deep plot in a massive multiplayer game
[22:03:22] <sbx> dont really need one
[22:03:28] <Ordoc> yeah the point isn't plot :)
[22:03:30] <Ordoc> the point is time sink
[22:03:37] <Khelz> that's relative
[22:03:43] <Khelz> I need a plot :p
[22:04:01] <Ordoc> i played EQ for a long time and i played EQ2 for a few months, gonna reactivate my account soon probably
[22:04:07] <sbx> Someone from U6O encouraged me to try a freeshard of UO. So far I can't see the big deal except for that novelty factor when it first came out.
[22:04:09] <Ordoc> sold my eq account for $1000 hehe
[22:04:12] <Khelz> playing Ultima 7 is like reading a good book using an interactive way
[22:04:31] <Ordoc> Khelz: yeah exactly, i started up a new game of black gate last night :)
[22:04:34] <sbx> Ordoc: is that a profit?
[22:04:40] <Ordoc> havent played it in years
[22:04:45] <Ordoc> sbx: yeah
[22:04:59] <Ordoc> i played SI about 2 years ago, but it bugged so i never finishe dit
[22:05:18] <Khelz> bug with exult or with the original engine ?
[22:05:24] <Ordoc> exult i imagine
[22:05:28] <sbx> I finished both games with Exult.
[22:05:36] <Ordoc> it might have been an original bug
[22:05:38] <Ordoc> i dont remember now
[22:05:56] <Ordoc> sbx: it was about a $600-700 profit
[22:06:04] <sbx> You tried to stay away from it but need another fix now?
[22:06:09] <sbx> EverQuest
[22:06:21] <sbx> or EverCrack what some people call it
[22:06:23] <Ordoc> i was too busy to play EQ2
[22:06:28] <Khelz> it's not a profit considering the time you must have passed on it :)
[22:06:42] <Ordoc> Khelz: yeah about 180 days actually
[22:06:43] <sbx> that's a very friendly/nice term for it isn't it :)
[22:07:12] <Ordoc> but i got my character to level 37 in eq2 before i stopped playing :) plus my internet was fucking up at school, and i didnt get my cable internet here until recently
[22:07:23] <sbx> you can have a small scale friendly online game with a story
[22:07:31] <Ordoc> co-op :P
[22:07:51] <Ordoc> me and one of my good friends would always play black gate and u6 together
[22:07:55] <Ordoc> good friend*
[22:07:55] <Ordoc> that is
[22:08:13] <Ordoc> i was an ultima junkie when i was a kid lol
[22:08:21] <sbx> who pays $1000 for an everquest account anyway
[22:08:33] <Ordoc> not many people anymore lol
[22:08:34] <sbx> they must really be addicted
[22:08:39] <Ordoc> but back then people would pay a lot
[22:08:51] <Ordoc> plus a lot of people buy accounts
[22:08:54] <Ordoc> and sell individual items
[22:08:55] <sbx> did they get many objects from you?
[22:08:57] <Ordoc> off the characters
[22:09:02] <Ordoc> yeah
[22:09:10] <Ordoc> i had 2 high level characters with all the good stuff :P
[22:09:42] <Ordoc> you should try out EQ2 its really nice
[22:10:50] <sbx> i dont play many games
[22:11:13] <Ordoc> me either anymore heh
[22:11:13] <sbx> just busy with systemshock2 right now (I got to the von braun bridge)
[22:11:27] <Ordoc> i never beat ultima 8 due to a bug
[22:11:30] <Ordoc> pisses me off
[22:11:49] <Ordoc> ever played it?
[22:12:01] <sbx> just a little bit
[22:12:05] <Khelz> ultima8 is not great imho
[22:12:05] <Ordoc> well there is this part you are under the mountain in the catacombs or something
[22:12:12] <Ordoc> and you cant go back
[22:12:13] <Khelz> too few dialogues/towns
[22:12:17] <Ordoc> so if you dont have the right reagents
[22:12:19] <Ordoc> you are fucked
[22:12:20] <Khelz> too much arcade
[22:12:36] <Khelz> but the tile engine was cool
[22:12:54] <sbx> i got to a similiar location in systemshock2
[22:12:54] <Khelz> I liked the first scene too :)
[22:13:10] <Ordoc> yeah the crusader games were much better on the engine than u8
[22:13:15] <sbx> you have to hack a replicator to get a certain object, and then buy the object, so you must have enough nanites
[22:13:19] <Ordoc> but it still grew on me
[22:13:20] <sbx> heh
[22:13:24] <sbx> i love the crusader games
[22:13:31] <Khelz> what are those crusader games ?
[22:13:31] <sbx> as for u8 I didnt get past the town tenebrae
[22:13:44] <Ordoc> you never played no remorse/no regret?!
[22:14:09] <sbx> Its easy not to, I only heard about it because Dominus mentioned the games.
[22:14:14] <Khelz> nope
[22:14:23] <sbx> and the controls would scare off some new players
[22:14:36] <Ordoc> i played them when they first came out
[22:15:03] <sbx> i havnt finished them :)
[22:15:12] <sbx> or at least, havnt gotten halfway into no regret
[22:15:14] <Ordoc> im ready to get cracking on nuvie
[22:15:20] <sbx> maybe I finished crusader1 but I dont remember
[22:15:25] <Ordoc> as soon as this last exam is over and i take a 5 day break from this town :P
[22:15:30] <sbx> what about your exams?!
[22:15:34] <sbx> ah k
[22:15:38] <Ordoc> one exam tommorow
[22:15:47] <Ordoc> and then im going to go visit my family for like 3-4 days
[22:15:58] <Ordoc> and then IM RARING UP FOR SOME EXTREME PROGRAMMING
[22:16:06] <sbx> maybe I should work on it too :p
[22:16:07] <Ordoc> i will finish the engine in 2 nightsd!!!!
[22:16:16] <sbx> oh
[22:16:19] <sbx> go ahead then
[22:16:22] <Ordoc> lol
[22:16:27] <Ordoc> i havent browsed the code enough yet :)
[22:16:28] <Khelz> the pffuit sfx is not implemented in exult. will it be someday ? :)
[22:17:00] <sbx> it has some annoying sfx already
[22:17:42] <Ordoc> i might work on the tools for my tiler some also
[22:22:16] <Ordoc> http://www.ebaumsworld.com/flash/sheblockedme.html
[22:22:17] <Ordoc> lol
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