#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 7 Dec 2001 (GMT)

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[00:23:37] <matto> hehe
[00:36:55] <toad`sMoke> matto: what did you want the other day?
[00:40:06] <matto> toad`sMoke!
[00:40:12] <matto> toad`sMoke: I don't recall wanting anything
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[02:39:16] <Soul|LOVE> heil
[04:14:45] <Soul|LOVE> r
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[04:27:00] <Soul|LOVE> heil sir
[04:27:10] * Darke bowbounces. "Hi all."
[04:33:13] <matto> Darko!
[04:33:20] <Soul|LOVE> SUP THOU
[04:38:11] <Darke> !8ball SUP THOU?
[04:38:12] * MiniMe looks in the 8 Ball and the answer is... 3 NO U
[04:38:29] * Darke is in awe. <awefluff>
[04:48:09] <Soul|LOVE> arrgh
[04:48:15] <Soul|LOVE> ICQ is being utterly lame
[04:54:55] <Darke> Any particular reason?
[04:55:04] <Soul|LOVE> yes
[04:55:13] <Soul|LOVE> it is disconnecting me every time i actually manage to connect
[04:55:19] <Soul|LOVE> which is about once every ten minutes
[04:55:34] <Soul|LOVE> i'll be on for maybe 30 seconds and then dead again
[04:55:43] <Darke> What client? I'm using centericq at the moment and it's working perfectly.
[04:56:05] <Soul|LOVE> the standard client
[04:56:06] <Soul|LOVE> 2000b
[04:56:30] <Soul|LOVE> it's not affecting my friends, just me, but i'm not having any other problems with any of my machines
[04:58:54] <Darke> Hmm... odd, a firewall problem? (/me has a Reboot flashback <grin>) Perhaps it's just your isp having a bad day. <grin>
[04:59:02] <Soul|LOVE> neither of those
[04:59:17] <Soul|LOVE> i have full connectivity and both machines inside and outside my bridge are having trouble
[04:59:26] <Soul|LOVE> probably a downed router somewhere
[04:59:35] <Darke> Makes sense.
[05:04:49] <Soul|LOVE> the piercing radiant moon, the storming of poor june
[05:04:56] <Soul|LOVE> all the life running... through her hair
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[05:53:39] <dto> Hi folks
[05:55:00] <Soul|LOVE> heui
[05:55:02] <Soul|LOVE> err
[05:55:02] <Soul|LOVE> heil
[05:59:13] <dto> what's up
[05:59:33] <Soul|LOVE> hmmm
[05:59:39] <Soul|LOVE> playing SI
[05:59:41] <Soul|LOVE> looking for bugs
[06:01:05] <Soul|LOVE> i'm murdering pikeman
[06:01:16] <Soul|LOVE> even tho it's not finished, i like exult combat better then the original by far
[06:01:27] <Soul|LOVE> a lot slower paced
[06:01:37] <Soul|LOVE> not so much blitzing
[06:01:44] <Soul|LOVE> actually able to run around and fight
[06:03:48] <dto> nice
[06:04:02] <Soul|LOVE> i just got bored so i killed shamino
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[06:11:31] --- Topic for #exult is: exult: For those coders who think ultima7 attracts money and girls. <innocentfluff>
[06:11:31] --- Topic for #exult set by Darke at Thu Dec 6 16:16:59 2001
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[06:24:54] <Soul|LOVE> SE?W?NS TOWER
[06:31:24] <Soul|LOVE> damn
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[09:42:22] <Dominus> hi
[09:42:25] <Soul|LOVE> heil
[09:44:58] <Dominus> Soul|LOVE. can you send me those Uw2 files for XP today? :-)
[09:45:07] <Soul|LOVE> yeah
[09:45:13] <Soul|LOVE> well
[09:45:19] <Soul|LOVE> actually not uw2
[09:45:24] <Soul|LOVE> i rememberd i never tried uw2
[09:45:28] <Soul|LOVE> but uw1 yes
[09:45:29] <Dominus> no matter actually :-)
[09:45:42] * Darke greetingsbows, and is idle. <grin>
[09:45:49] <Dominus> can you try dcc them to me? I have to try out that new Triallian version
[09:45:55] <Soul|LOVE> they aren't on this machine
[09:46:13] <Dominus> hm, can you dcc me anything right now ? :-)
[09:48:52] <Soul|LOVE> ??
[09:48:55] <Soul|LOVE> ioh
[09:48:55] <Soul|LOVE> sure
[09:48:56] <Soul|LOVE> sec
[09:49:34] <Soul|LOVE> there
[09:49:39] <Soul|LOVE> i'm trying to DCC you a pic
[09:49:55] <Dominus> wait that one didn't work
[09:50:12] <Soul|LOVE> send again?
[09:50:18] <Dominus> one sec
[09:51:08] <Dominus> please send again
[09:51:26] <Soul|LOVE> there
[09:51:34] <Dominus> argh, this sucks
[09:51:46] <Dominus> I'm doing something wrong, it seems
[09:51:52] <Soul|LOVE> hmm
[09:52:16] <Dominus> oops, checked my firewall...
[09:52:17] <Dominus> :-)
[09:52:25] <Soul|LOVE> send again?
[09:52:28] <Dominus> please try again
[09:52:46] <Soul|LOVE> waiting
[09:53:01] <Dominus> ok, I'll have to see about that
[09:53:08] <Dominus> it's not working for some reason
[09:53:13] <Soul|LOVE> hmm
[09:53:23] <Dominus> maybe I should read the FAQ or the Forum of Trillian :-)
[09:53:32] <Soul|LOVE> lol
[09:53:39] <Dominus> I'll ask again later
[09:53:56] <Soul|LOVE> k
[09:57:49] <Dominus> brb
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[09:59:17] <Soul|LOVE> :P
[09:59:49] <Dominus> Hmm, I like that new Trillian
[10:02:22] <Soul|LOVE> hmmm
[10:02:31] <Dominus> hmmmmm?
[10:02:33] <Soul|LOVE> have you tried using an EMS wrapper to play uw?
[10:02:55] <Dominus> nope, do they work in XP?
[10:03:08] <Soul|LOVE> they should if they are in the boot or system.ini
[10:03:35] <Dominus> do you use one? And I haven't looked at any since ages ago
[10:04:22] <Soul|LOVE> i don't use a wrapper, but when I first got XP I put in an ems manager
[10:04:33] <Soul|LOVE> i can't remember where i plopped it down
[10:04:37] <Dominus> which one?
[10:05:03] <Soul|LOVE> i don't even remember
[10:05:23] <Soul|LOVE> i'll find out again
[10:05:28] <Dominus> Well, when you get me that stuff for playing uw can you look it up (better send me your system.ini/win.ini as well)
[10:05:53] <Dominus> I guess that's what made it possible for you to play uw in XP
[10:06:33] <Soul|LOVE> i tried on my other XP box
[10:06:35] <Soul|LOVE> which has no mods
[10:06:47] <Soul|LOVE> and using the pif I had for the othe rmachine
[10:06:47] <Soul|LOVE> just dumps with an "out of EMS memory"
[10:07:02] <Soul|LOVE> shouldn't be though, because XP is supposed to be able to simulate EMS/XMS
[10:07:13] <Dominus> hehe
[10:08:04] <Dominus> but that'S just the problem everyone sees with the underworlds. They normally don't play on NT. Your ems manager must be the solution
[10:11:19] <Soul|LOVE> btw, what section of exult do you focus on?
[10:11:38] <Dominus> what do you mean?
[10:12:00] <Soul|LOVE> i never paid much attention to who focused on what
[10:12:10] <Soul|LOVE> as in, what do you help out with the most
[10:13:36] <Dominus> Oh, I see, I'm the documentation guy. And former alpha tester for SI (I think I've sent in most bugs in one week at some point). I want to be beta tester as well, but lately I haven't found time to play much in Exult :-)
[10:14:25] <Soul|LOVE> ahh i see
[10:14:34] <Soul|LOVE> so you don't actually do any coding?
[10:16:10] <Dominus> nope
[10:16:18] <Soul|LOVE> ahhh k
[10:16:39] <Dominus> though I'm actually trying to learn C++ but I'm much toooooooo lazy
[10:16:53] <Soul|LOVE> lol
[10:16:54] <Soul|LOVE> same
[10:20:17] <Dominus> ok, if I get disconnected shortly it's because i'm testing stuff here
[10:20:25] <Soul|LOVE> what OS?
[10:20:50] <Dominus> XP
[10:20:58] <Soul|LOVE> testing what?
[10:21:26] <Dominus> I'm testinga new version of Trillian. A chat client that connects to IRC, ICQ, AIM, MSN and Yahoo
[10:21:46] <Soul|LOVE> i know what trillian is
[10:21:50] <Soul|LOVE> and ah
[10:22:29] <Dominus> what are you using? I guess Win32 in some form and which IRC client?
[10:23:03] <Soul|LOVE> which machine?
[10:23:11] <Soul|LOVE> i have 7 functional machines ATM :P
[10:23:40] <Dominus> ;-)
[10:23:46] <Dominus> right now?
[10:24:58] <Soul|LOVE> the soulnet server is XP, the utima archive server is running NT, this machine is running 98se, the minime bot/dns server is running XP, the dud machine (it's my aunt's, it's here visiting while I repair it) is running XP, the celeron is running redhat 7.1, and the oldest 486 is running dos 6.22/win311
[10:25:53] <Dominus> wow, imagine all that electrosmog :-)
[10:26:09] <Soul|LOVE> soon as I get another job, a good sum of money will go into vast upgrades, and then delves into parallel processing
[10:26:21] <Soul|LOVE> ah yes
[10:26:25] <Soul|LOVE> i love my machines
[10:26:33] <Soul|LOVE> the soulnet server had it's 7th fan added a few days ago
[10:27:40] * Darke likes electrosmog... it sounds nice.
[10:27:54] <Soul|LOVE> the wonderful hum of the machines
[10:28:18] <Dominus> electrosmog is not the humming
[10:28:25] <Darke> <grin> The highpiched squeel of monitors.
[10:28:26] <Soul|LOVE> i know
[10:28:43] <Soul|LOVE> usually the monitors are off, except for this machine and the server
[10:29:12] <Soul|LOVE> i like the hum
[10:29:19] <Dominus> what IRC client are you running?
[10:29:33] <Soul|LOVE> on this machine, polaris 4
[10:29:41] <Soul|LOVE> minime, he is my own mirc script
[10:29:44] * Darke loves walking into an empty computer lab at uni and just listening to the different tunes of each monitor.
[10:29:51] <Soul|LOVE> on the XP machine, the minime script
[10:29:58] <Soul|LOVE> the rest of them aren't using IRC
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[10:30:11] <Dominus> okey dockey
[10:30:16] <SoulHarvester> 2os[Windows XP Professional (5.1 - 2600)] 2uptime[5w 6d 3h 4m 55s] 2cpu[1-Intel Pentium II, 503MHz, 512KB] 2mem[Usage: 244/768MB (31.87%)[|||-------]]
[10:30:22] <Soul|LOVE> trying to get minime in here
[10:30:25] <Soul|LOVE> slow piece of shit
[10:30:32] <Dominus> argh is that that minime
[10:30:33] <Dominus> ?
[10:30:41] <Soul|LOVE> hnnn?
[10:30:43] <Soul|LOVE> hmm?
[10:30:51] <Dominus> leave him out of here, one bot is big enough
[10:30:57] <Dominus> he he
[10:30:57] <Soul|LOVE> lol
[10:31:07] <Soul|LOVE> he's a nice bot
[10:31:18] <Dominus> I wrote before you wrote that you are trying to get minime here :-)
[10:31:35] <Soul|LOVE> huh?
[10:31:44] <Darke> But MiniMe has a cool 8ball. <coolfluff>
[10:31:55] <Soul|LOVE> yes, he has an 8ball and can play dice
[10:32:05] <Dominus> I'm not talking to a bot.
[10:32:10] <Soul|LOVE> i've been writing blackjack as well
[10:32:13] <Soul|LOVE> :(
[10:32:47] <Dominus> except Exultbot - I've grown to like exultbot and I rely on him but I'm not talking to some austin Powers bot :-)
[10:32:49] * Darke likes his 8ball, it has a... hmm... sense of 'humor' inherent in this character. <grin>
[10:32:59] <Soul|LOVE> he's not an austin powers bot
[10:33:04] <Soul|LOVE> he had that name before that movie came out
[10:33:08] <Dominus> he he
[10:33:53] <Dominus> I'll be right back - I have to skin Trillian now :-)
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[10:34:51] <Soul|LOVE> minime is felite
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[10:35:45] <Soul|LOVE> !gohome SoulHarvester
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[10:36:32] <Dominus> hm, this skin is awfull
[10:36:32] <Dominus> brb
[10:36:32] <Soul|LOVE> lol
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[10:38:45] <Dominus> hm this one is too basic
[10:38:48] <Dominus> brb
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[10:41:05] <Soul|LOVE> !monitoring
[10:41:10] <Soul|LOVE> wtf
[10:41:12] <Soul|LOVE> !monitoring
[10:41:18] <Dominus> ?
[10:41:18] <Wumpus> ?monitoring
[10:41:22] <Wumpus> perhaps?
[10:41:22] <Soul|LOVE> rejected bot
[10:41:24] <Wumpus> *shrug*
[10:41:27] <Soul|LOVE> no I use !
[10:41:32] <Soul|LOVE> hmm
[10:41:33] <Wumpus> it seemed to respond to ? earlier
[10:41:35] <Wumpus> but oh well :P
[10:41:37] <Wumpus> evening all
[10:41:39] <Soul|LOVE> exult bot :P
[10:41:41] <Soul|LOVE> not mine
[10:41:42] <Soul|LOVE> and heil
[10:42:10] * Wumpus grumbles
[10:42:11] <Dominus> I really don't like this skin it's very scary - named Giger
[10:42:22] <Soul|LOVE> !monitoring
[10:42:23] <MiniMe> I am currently monitoring the following servers: ( $null $serv1 )
[10:42:27] * Wumpus wonders why he bothered coming on tongiht... shoulg have had an early night :)
[10:42:34] <Soul|LOVE> lol
[10:42:34] <Wumpus> hehe
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[10:43:28] <Dominus> back to default :-)
[10:44:10] <Dominus> Soul|LOVE: why do you have to say "heil"? It reminds me too much of some time 60 years ago
[10:44:34] <Wumpus> yay 3 more of my bugs fix0red... jeff has been busy :)
[10:46:27] <Soul|LOVE> why say heil?
[10:46:30] <Soul|LOVE> why say hail?
[10:46:33] <Soul|LOVE> hail sounds horrid
[10:46:43] <Soul|LOVE> plus, i have nightmares of hail pellets
[10:46:46] <Soul|LOVE> big ones
[10:46:59] <Dominus> but heil sounds like Nazi greetings to me
[10:47:06] <Soul|LOVE> nazi?!
[10:47:18] <Soul|LOVE> well
[10:47:31] <Soul|LOVE> lol it's a long story
[10:47:46] <Wumpus> well it is, kind of ;-p
[10:47:59] <Soul|LOVE> just a word :P
[10:48:01] <Wumpus> (... a Nazi thing... but hey, :P)
[10:48:03] <Soul|LOVE> nazis didn't invent it
[10:48:03] <Wumpus> indeed
[10:48:07] <Wumpus> *nodnod*
[10:48:12] <Wumpus> but its become associated all the same ;-p
[10:48:29] * Wumpus is sure he could dig up someone who would get offended... :)
[10:48:32] <Dominus> I know they didn't invent it but it's now as related to Nazism as is the swastika
[10:48:46] <Soul|LOVE> you mean the same way some people are now associating long beards (ala OBL?)
[10:48:47] <Wumpus> hehe the swastika isn't a nazi thing either, originally :|
[10:48:57] <Soul|LOVE> err
[10:49:00] <Soul|LOVE> associating long beards with evil
[10:49:01] <Wumpus> soul- hadn't heard that one before, but hehe :P
[10:49:02] <Dominus> I know
[10:49:21] <Soul|LOVE> there was this huge thing on the radio about some guy protesting santa being allowed to wear a beard
[10:49:31] <Soul|LOVE> saying it was evil and would make children serve osama bin laden
[10:49:39] <Wumpus> ooooh dear
[10:49:52] * Darke thinks that's insane, but certainly can see it happening.
[10:50:03] <Soul|LOVE> lot of it down here
[10:50:04] <Wumpus> that person would get offended by anything, i guess :P
[10:50:19] <Wumpus> phwoah, pouring rain... nice :)
[10:50:21] <Dominus> But I think that Heil and swastikas (even though not invented by Nazis) are very much associated to evil/Nazis by many people
[10:50:25] <Soul|LOVE> that person needs to be hit in the nose
[10:50:28] <Soul|LOVE> .. but not by me
[10:50:41] <Darke> On a related 'people are stupid' angle if you haven't already seen it. <grin>: http://www.satirewire.com/news/0112/hate_crime.shtml
[10:50:44] <Soul|LOVE> i think it's easy to throw people off guard, make them think
[10:51:02] <Soul|LOVE> you know,
[10:51:06] <Wumpus> do i?
[10:51:11] <Soul|LOVE> some people kinda walk around with a "DUH" approach to life
[10:51:12] <Wumpus> :P
[10:51:14] * Darke agrees with Dominus, that's why people should say 'heil' all the time. <grin>
[10:51:15] <Soul|LOVE> i like to liven them up
[10:51:22] <Wumpus> hehe
[10:51:32] * Darke agrees with Soul|LOVE. <grin>
[10:51:32] <Wumpus> too many people are lead by the media etc :|
[10:51:34] <Dominus> And I have to admit I am a bit offended by the usage of Heil (if someone would greet me here in real life with Heil I would not speak to him)
[10:51:46] <Soul|LOVE> even me? ;_;
[10:52:02] <Soul|LOVE> russians greet with heil
[10:53:14] <Darke> Dominus: That's the reason. <grin> You're associating something with another thing that's only tentativly connected. For example, to me it's like decrying Boeing, because their planes were crashed into the WTC.
[10:53:39] <Darke> (Which people did, by the way.)
[10:53:55] <Soul|LOVE> ah shit
[10:53:55] <matto> and they created a real mess by doing that too, I might add
[10:54:10] <Wumpus> the whole WTV thing turned into a real mess :-(
[10:54:16] <Wumpus> well
[10:54:18] <Soul|LOVE> i just spilled fermentating syrup on myself
[10:54:21] <Wumpus> it was a real mess from the beginning ofc
[10:54:21] * Darke agrees.
[10:54:26] <Wumpus> but it didn't get made any better by what followed :-(
[10:54:42] <Wumpus> fermenting syrup?
[10:54:45] <matto> of course, some people would say the situation was already a real mess long before WTC ...
[10:55:00] <Wumpus> heeh true... ;p
[10:55:22] <Soul|LOVE> damnit
[10:55:36] <Dominus> I just hope they get this stupid guy who sent all those nice letters with Anthrax in them
[10:55:46] <Wumpus> didn't they already?
[10:55:52] <Dominus> did they?
[10:56:00] <matto> I don't think so
[10:56:00] * Darke agrees with Dominus.
[10:56:05] <matto> I've been following the news pretty closely
[10:56:05] <Dominus> I though they had some strong ideas who it was
[10:56:12] <matto> I doubt they will get him
[10:56:25] <matto> he probably just opened up a mailbox on the street, dropped the letters in, and was off
[10:56:30] <Wumpus> *shrug* there was something in the news a fair while back (couple of weeks), but maybe that turned out to be rubbish... dunno, I gave up on the news a little while back
[10:56:56] <Soul|LOVE> ok
[10:56:59] <Soul|LOVE> that's it
[10:57:11] <Dominus> yeah, but I though it there are some strong hints now that it came from US-biological weapons lab or something
[10:57:17] <Soul|LOVE> damn fermantating solvents
[10:57:27] <Soul|LOVE> i must now go lift, shower, and watch simpsons
[10:57:30] <Soul|LOVE> i will return shortly
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[10:57:36] * Dominus has no idea what Soul|LOVE is talking about
[10:57:40] <sbx> hi
[10:57:40] <matto> Dominus: perhaps ... I heard that the US is the one of the only places it could've been produced
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[10:57:52] <matto> sbx!!
[10:58:02] <sbx> matto!!
[10:58:03] <Dominus> hi
[10:58:28] <Dominus> matto: btw, does Richard Rahl ever turn up in PoC? :-)
[10:58:32] <sbx> mm.. i forgot the cvs command can someone tell me?
[10:58:35] <matto> Dominus: yes
[10:58:50] <sbx> when inside exult directory what to i type to update?
[10:58:57] <sbx> s/to/do
[10:59:01] <Wumpus> from cvs? cvs update
[10:59:08] <matto> Dominus: but not until the end of the book :)
[10:59:10] <Wumpus> well
[10:59:13] <Wumpus> cvs update -d is better :P
[10:59:24] * Darke bows to sbx.
[10:59:24] <Wumpus> or cvs -z3 update -d if you're on a modem (does a little compression)
[10:59:39] <matto> I don't want to spoil it, but I think I would've preferred having that information when I started reading.. which is why I gave it to you :)
[10:59:42] <Wumpus> (-d -> get new directories as well; cvs update on its own doesn't get newly created directories)
[10:59:51] <Dominus> matto: I feared as much (though I'm not sure you are telling me the truth so to not spoil my reading at the moment) :-)
[11:00:18] <sbx> -d is not override CVS_ROOT?
[11:00:25] <Wumpus> hehe
[11:00:27] <matto> Dominus: what part are you at?
[11:00:37] <Wumpus> it only overrides CVSROOT if you have it before the 'command' (update in this case)
[11:00:51] <Wumpus> cvs is funny like that.... switches have different meaning depending on where they appear :P
[11:01:09] <sbx> ok thanks... updating
[11:01:17] <Dominus> matto: just where that girl from chapter 1 (don't want to spoil it for Fingolfin) is in search for that witch in the people#s palace
[11:01:25] * Darke doesn't ask 'why' when it comes to cvs.
[11:01:29] * matto doesn't think fingolfin is here
[11:01:33] <matto> oh but I forgot about the logs!
[11:01:39] <Dominus> he he
[11:02:04] <sbx> heh
[11:02:12] <matto> my mistake
[11:02:15] <Dominus> I didn't have much time reading the last 2 days
[11:02:15] <sbx> its like 'cvs [options] [command [command options]]'
[11:02:28] <Wumpus> ya :)
[11:03:25] <sbx> ucclex.l is no longer pertinent
[11:03:30] <sbx> uccparse.y is no longer pertinent
[11:03:41] <Wumpus> that just means its been removed from cvs
[11:03:42] <sbx> opcodes.txt is no longer pertinent
[11:03:46] <Wumpus> ummm
[11:03:49] <sbx> i see
[11:04:04] <sbx> yes Darke moved opcodes.txt
[11:04:07] <sbx> i guess
[11:04:11] <Wumpus> (possibly moved to a different place? cvs dosen't handle moving or renaming files paticularly well)
[11:04:16] <sbx> hmm yeah he said that
[11:04:18] <Darke> sbx: opcodes.txt was shifted from Docs/ to data/. They all should be autodeleted for you. <grin>
[11:04:43] <sbx> Darke: you are correct it is gone
[11:05:19] * sbx stretches his aterm really long and makes the font small to read opcodes.txt.
[11:06:56] * Darke wonders if sbx understands now why he wants to convert opcodes.txt into a more... flexible data format. <grin>
[11:08:41] <sbx> would it be like <PUSH><code>0x21</code><fa>"push... etc?
[11:09:39] <Darke> Possibly. <grin> I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
[11:10:28] * sbx likes to build bridges early and then transport them to their destination.
[11:10:47] * Darke is going to try the other two files in data/ using the conf/ format first.
[11:12:16] <sbx> what are all the null operations?
[11:12:35] <Darke> None of them are ever called, so we don't know.
[11:14:19] <sbx> what happens between enum and next?
[11:17:30] <Darke> Nothing really there's nothing between the bytes 0x2E and 0x02. My 'guess' is they originally planned on adding an initialisation section (like the first part of a 'for' loop), between those two values. But the bytes always appear right beside one another.
[11:18:32] <sbx> Oops.. I meant to say "what do enum and next do?" :-)
[11:18:47] * Darke notes he has lots of little 'guesses' about how things 'work'. <grin> Mainly becuase he's trying to recreate the structure of the original usecode-script origin used.
[11:19:26] <sbx> It is interesting to try and figure out by looking at the bytecode.
[11:19:45] <sbx> maybe not fun though hehe
[11:20:12] <sbx> Darke: more precisely.. what does next do.. i am confused by your notes
[11:20:33] <Darke> From memory. <grin> It's a foreach style loop. I'll have to look at a function with it to remember more.
[11:21:07] <Dominus> sbx: notes? don't say you actually got notes from Darke ? :-)
[11:21:17] <sbx> hehe
[11:21:21] <sbx> i mean opcodes.txt
[11:21:26] <Dominus> he he
[11:21:36] <sbx> most of his descriptions are good though
[11:22:12] <Darke> Dominus: With the exception of some opcodes, opcodes.txt is actually rather well documented IMHO. <grin> It's just sparse on the more complicated ones, because I'm not really sure how they work according to the exult code.
[11:22:23] <Dominus> :-)
[11:22:33] <sbx> Darke: i understand that %1 is the current loop counter, %2 is the maximum number of loops, but i dont know what sets the maximum, and if all this is correct, what is %3?
[11:24:00] <sbx> Darke: if varoffset is not an array, it should set the maximum to 1, but then what is the function of next?
[11:24:02] <Darke> According to the docs, %3 of the variable the 'current' value from %4 is stored in.
[11:24:24] <sbx> what is %1?
[11:24:48] <Darke> (! an array) It's done because it may have more then one value in it. It also incorproates a jump as well.
[11:25:56] <Darke> (%1) It's the 'index' of the loop, like if you reference array[index]. Although %1 is apparently 1 based. But I'm currently reading from docs rather then source.
[11:26:16] <Darke> It does, however mesh with my descriptions.
[11:26:47] <sbx> Ok, so enum...next basically tests if something is an array over %2 size and does a jump if it is not?
[11:28:12] * sbx will be surprised if that is correct.
[11:30:37] <Darke> Hmm... I'll try and translate. <grin> For each element in %4, (up to the maximum number of elements %2) first, put the current index into %1 and the current 'value' into %3. Then, iterate through the following code, until it hits a jump and jumps back to the offset of the original 'next'. Then it increments the appropriate values and reassigns the %1 and %3. If %1 has reached max ...
[11:30:55] <Darke> (or is greater then, don't know), it jumps to %5. Make sense?
[11:31:49] * Darke is not _really_ sure this is how it works, but it's close enough for government works. <grin>
[11:34:43] <sbx> so when %1 == %2 it does not do the following code... and enum is not used at all?
[11:35:04] <Soul|BRB> i am teh retrun
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[11:35:49] <Darke> Either when %1==%2 or %1>=%2, I'd have to look at exult's code to be sure. ENUM tells the NEXT part to 'initiate', afaict.
[11:36:18] <sbx> Darke: (enum) at least that is how it is done in Exult?
[11:38:08] <Darke> It's how it's done in exult, and it's how it would most likely have been done in u7. I'm guessing the 'initialisation' section I mentioned above was either planned to be between ENUM and NEXT and was turned into hardcode when it was found to be 'redundant', or it was planned and never finished becuase 'hardcoded' was more optimal or they just ran out of time.
[11:38:45] <sbx> Can enum just be ignored by the interpreter?
[11:39:35] <Darke> sbx: It is, well, it's ignored by exult anyway, it's state machine calls ENUM and NEXT effectivally the same opcode, whereas the original probably wouldn't.
[11:40:18] * Darke puts on some music, all this code is making his head hurt. <grin>
[11:41:23] <sbx> Thanks for helping... I am sorry if I hurt your head. :-(
[11:41:37] <sbx> I probably didn't really need to know all that heh.
[11:42:13] * Darke guesses the original u7 would have had an 'enum' true/false register, and next would check that (and reset that) on the first time through so it knows to init the values, then just increments it every time it hits a next.
[11:43:17] <Darke> Hypothetically this structure would allow recursive 'for loops', with the ability to jump out of them at 'will' (a break to any level). It's kind of a cool structure.
[11:44:27] <sbx> Yes even if confusing.
[11:44:34] * Darke considers some 'structured' programmers he knows would have a heart attack at that thought.
[11:44:47] <Wumpus> ;-p
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[11:45:04] <Colourless> hi
[11:45:09] <sbx> hi Colourless
[11:45:22] * Colourless raises an eyebrow
[11:45:24] <Darke> Hi Colourless. <bowbounce>
[11:45:42] <Dominus> hi
[11:45:51] <MiniMe> r
[11:45:59] * Soul|LOVEME nods in agreement
[11:48:05] * Darke ponders. None of the usecode would currently do that though. From memory, it would severly break exult if I tried it. Perhaps I should glance at some code...
[11:48:36] * Soul|LOVEME has watched an average of 11 simpsons episodes a day for 4 days now
[11:48:37] * Colourless ponders what Darke is actually talking about
[11:48:51] * Soul|LOVEME ponders Colourless
[11:48:59] * Darke points the dragon in the direction of the logs.
[11:49:26] <Wumpus> hlaf the channel are dragons, aren't they? :P
[11:49:31] <Dominus> Soul|LOVEME : is probably very odd now that he has watched so many simpsons eps
[11:49:43] <Soul|LOVEME> nay, i must watch 200 more
[11:49:57] * Dominus should ask a friend for all of his episodes (nearly complete)
[11:50:17] * Soul|LOVEME must steal that friend's stash
[11:50:19] * Darke grins at Wumpus.
[11:50:24] <sbx> Wumpus: find any more bugs recently?
[11:51:03] <matto> are these episodes good quality, or schlop?
[11:51:11] <Soul|LOVEME> decent enough for me
[11:51:20] <matto> not official though, eh?
[11:51:33] <matto> I guess only season 1 is out on DVD
[11:51:34] <Colourless> eh, logs are too far away :-)
[11:51:38] <Wumpus> sbx- nothing i'm going to report :P
[11:51:41] <Wumpus> (at this time
[11:52:02] <Dominus> matto: no not official at all
[11:52:06] <Wumpus> still some setuff i need to go over again :P but nothing serious that i can remember :P
[11:52:27] <Dominus> matto: at least those from that firend of mine aren't
[11:52:28] <Darke> Colourless: I'm pondering hacking up some valid usecode that should thorougly break exult's interpretation of the ENUM...NEXT opcodes.
[11:55:51] * Wumpus will get loose on SI sometime soon :P
[11:56:14] * Darke gigglepurrs... that's evil, it's written exactly like it 'should' be. Anyone for an obfuscicated Usecode competition?
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[11:57:16] <Soul|LOVEME> HYh890ah89PSHAoaH89PSplihelkndlhOH89H
[11:57:36] <sbx> Darke: No.
[11:57:55] * matto takes Darke's toys away. "You've had too much fun for one day, Mr Rabbit."
[12:01:37] * Darke ponders... you know you could write a usecode interpreter in usecode? You'd just need to add one opcode I think, a string splitter.
[12:02:31] <sbx> Darke: so DrCode on the island can alter the universe using files in your Exult directory? :-)
[12:02:41] <Darke> And one that takes a typed string from a user as well... Otherwise you'd get rsi from all the mouse clicking.
[12:04:59] <Darke> I'm thinking more for ingame editing and basic scripting. <grin> It wouldn't work for large chunks of code, but just something, to say script it so that whenever a 'valueable' item appears on the screen, it's automatically 'clicked on' to show it's name shouldn't be too difficult to write in game, at least I don't think it would be too difficult.
[12:05:57] <sbx> ... or to make gold coins disappear when you try to pick them up.
[12:07:08] <Darke> sbx: Huh? Auto-pickup? Or just make them 'invisible'? Or something else?
[12:07:37] <sbx> sbx: i am trying to think of mean things to do with usecode scripting
[12:07:45] <sbx> hmm why am i talking to myself? Darke i mean
[12:08:36] * Darke has been talking to himself for a while already, you'll all just evesdropping.
[12:08:45] <sbx> Darke: forget making the gold disappear... one word: 'abrt'
[12:09:01] <Soul|LOVEME> ah, the misadventures of barrel-head
[12:09:43] <sbx> Darke: hmm you dont need usecode scripter for that anyway :-)
[12:17:41] <Darke> Not really. <grin> I'm thinking very simple scripting, no functions and the only 'jumps' would be to the opcode after the next one. Kind of like 'push 1; push 2; cmpeq; jne; addsi "foo"; addsi "bar"; say' would print "bar" rather then "foobar".
[12:18:31] <Darke> (Or the equilivant simplified-usecode-script type thing.)
[12:25:55] <Soul|LOVEME> ah damnit
[12:26:08] <Soul|LOVEME> this episode cut out at the last FIVE MINUTES
[12:26:10] <Soul|LOVEME> arrrrgh i hate that
[12:26:30] <Soul|LOVEME> it was an episode i hadn't seen yet as well
[12:26:43] <sbx> which one?
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[12:26:57] <Soul|LOVEME> the one where lisa and bart go to boot camp
[12:29:43] <Soul|LOVEME> hmm... getting a discount on a new refrigerator because it was evidence in a murder trial
[12:30:03] <sbx> congrats
[12:30:18] <Soul|LOVEME> but you have to clean it
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[12:33:54] <Colourless> :-)
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[13:33:37] * matto is amazed how many messages get posted to the exult discussion per day
[13:35:27] * Darke|afk earperks. "Is there an easy way to find out? <grin> I don't really pay all that much attention, since I tend to refresh it every few hours."
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[13:37:31] <Soul|LOVEME> Simpson! Homer Simpson!
[13:37:31] <Soul|LOVEME> He's the greatest guy in history!
[13:37:31] <Soul|LOVEME> From the, town of springfield!
[13:37:31] <Soul|LOVEME> He's about to hit a chestnut tree!
[13:37:45] <Colourless> Doh!
[13:37:55] <Soul|LOVEME> haha i love that
[13:38:02] <Soul|LOVEME> i think that'll be my startup sound
[13:38:14] <Darke> Yet another interview with LB: http://www.gamespy.com/interviews/december01/british/ You'd wonder if he gets tired of doing all these interviews. <grin>
[13:38:30] <Soul|LOVEME> there was a t hing on discovery with a RL interview of him
[13:38:36] <Soul|LOVEME> with a tour of his house
[13:38:40] <Soul|LOVEME> he has a felite house
[13:39:16] <matto> well lately I've been looking at it each day to see if that spark thread has moved back to the top.. it's almost scrolled off the screen.. that means quite a few new topics within only two days
[13:40:14] <matto> I read through it just now and I was disappointed to see the same old "Exult developers? Will this feature be added?" question ... grr
[13:40:50] * Darke ahhs and wonders if we can block matto's access to the forum, just so he can't post to Spark's Ass and knock it to the top again. <grin>
[13:41:07] <matto> Darke: if I intended to knock it back up to the top I would've posted by now
[13:41:54] <matto> I wouldn't want wjp and dominus to be compelled to kick me from the chan again ;)
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[13:43:27] <Colourless> i don't need to be compelled ;-)
[13:43:53] <Darke> matto: Nah, you wouldn't. You'd wait til it dropped off the front page and then waited until _everyone_ gives a sigh of relief. Then post to it to pull it right to the top again, and listen to all of us scream. <grin>
[13:43:53] * Darke snickers.
[13:44:41] * Colourless things about kicking Darke because he could think of such things
[13:45:03] * Soul|LOVEME thinks about eating
[13:45:06] <Soul|LOVEME> mmmmm
[13:46:49] <matto> Darke: hehe... actually that would be more my style, you're right :)
[13:47:07] <Darke> Then of course after it disappears for a second time, and everyone threatens matto with evisceration if he even considers doing that again. Nothing happens for two weeks, then spontaneously the thread is at the top again, when a 'new person' coming from an 'anonymous' ip range comments on it.
[13:47:22] <matto> hahahaha "new person"
[13:47:32] <Soul|LOVEME> i like new people
[13:47:35] <Soul|LOVEME> they taste so good
[13:47:43] <matto> darke, you'd better stop... you don't want to give me ideas
[13:47:45] <Darke> Of course everyone would guess this was matto. <grin>
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[13:49:51] <matto> ?seen darke
[13:49:51] <exultbot> darke is right here!
[13:50:19] * Darke considers that was one of his 'lesser evil' ideas. Has he mentioned he really, REALLY enjoys playing this character? He's just _fun_. <fangygrin>
[13:51:01] <Darke> Most of the other more evil ideas require multiple to coordinate them, so they're a bit harder to pull off.
[13:51:21] <Darke> s/multiple/multiple people/
[13:51:30] * sbx would help.
[13:55:03] <Darke> For example as another 'evil idea', you'd grab a list of proxy servers, and create multiple 'accounts' on one machine each 'account' would be a new 'persona', with a different name, and different proxy (so the proxy's ip would get recorded on the forum rather then your main machine's), I know this can be easily done under linux. ...
[13:55:47] <Darke> Then you start a thread, petitioning Spark's Ass to be returned to it's sparkly form (or something, just an excuse to start a thread really), then you have these multiple persona
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[13:56:41] <Darke> <grin> Why do I get the impression these thoughts are not well liked?
[13:56:51] <matto> Darke: if I ever did do something that vicious ... I would be sure to frame you as the culprit :)
[13:56:57] <Soul|LOVEME> Your ideas are UNpopular, get it?
[13:57:06] <Soul|LOVEME> damn fleas
[13:57:17] * Darke looks innocent.
[13:58:33] * Darke ponders
[13:58:43] <Darke> !8ball Are my idea's unpopular?
[13:58:44] * MiniMe looks in the 8 Ball and the answer is... 3 LEAVE ME ALONE UR GHEY IRL
[13:58:49] <Soul|LOVEME> lol
[13:58:51] * Darke giggles.
[13:58:52] <Wumpus> hehe
[13:58:53] <Soul|LOVEME> hahahah
[13:58:57] <Wumpus> *that* unpopular :P
[13:58:59] <Colourless> :-)
[13:59:13] <Soul|LOVEME> oh... bahhaah
[13:59:15] <Soul|LOVEME> poor darke
[13:59:18] * Darke likes this 8ball. <grin>
[13:59:28] <Soul|LOVEME> it's homemade
[14:00:02] * Darke worships the great creator of the 8ball.
[14:00:08] <Colourless> !8ball Will the Exult team make Sparks flashy ass an option?
[14:00:09] * MiniMe looks in the 8 Ball and the answer is... 3 U FIRST
[14:00:24] <Soul|LOVEME> hmm
[14:00:28] <matto> hehe.. he who comes up with the idea volunteers to implement it
[14:00:29] <Darke> Looks like it embraces the 'open source' coding style. <grin>
[14:00:41] <Soul|LOVEME> Minime speaks in riddles
[14:01:21] <Darke> !8ball Do you speak in riddles?
[14:01:22] * MiniMe looks in the 8 Ball and the answer is... 3 PLZ STFU NO ONE LIKES YOU
[14:01:29] * Darke rofls.
[14:01:32] <Soul|LOVEME> that's twice
[14:01:33] <Soul|LOVEME> lmao
[14:01:42] * Soul|LOVEME pats darke
[14:01:43] <Soul|LOVEME> it's ok
[14:01:49] <Colourless> !8ball do you hate Darke?
[14:01:49] * MiniMe looks in the 8 Ball and the answer is... 3 PLZ GET THE PEEN OUT OF YOUR EAR
[14:01:52] <Soul|LOVEME> minime has anger management issues
[14:01:57] <Soul|LOVEME> ...
[14:02:06] <Soul|LOVEME> he speaks in riddles, remember
[14:02:11] <Colourless> i think that is a yes?
[14:02:15] * Darke doesn't think it likes 'LOVEME' either.
[14:02:18] <Soul|LOVEME> indeed
[14:02:19] <sbx> or his 8ball has a glitch
[14:02:27] <Soul|LOVEME> !8ball do you love me?!
[14:02:27] * MiniMe looks in the 8 Ball and the answer is... 3 WTFNO
[14:02:30] <Soul|LOVEME> :(
[14:02:45] * Darke feels vindicated. <grin>
[14:02:48] <Colourless> !8ball what about me?
[14:02:49] * MiniMe looks in the 8 Ball and the answer is... 3 KERPWND NEB!
[14:03:00] <Soul|LOVEME> allow me to translate
[14:03:03] <Soul|LOVEME> neb = newbie
[14:03:07] * Darke thinks that's not a riddle, it's an encrypted string.
[14:03:12] <Soul|LOVEME> kerpwnd = pwnd = ownd = owned
[14:03:25] <sbx> owned newbie?
[14:03:27] <Colourless> hmm
[14:03:30] <sbx> that is still a riddle
[14:03:33] <Soul|LOVEME> He's agressive
[14:03:40] <Soul|LOVEME> i don't try to solve them
[14:03:47] <Soul|LOVEME> it hurts my precious mind
[14:04:21] <Darke> Not really. <grin> It translates to something like 'I'm far, far better then you looser.'
[14:04:55] <Soul|LOVEME> Yes
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[14:05:05] <Soul|LOVEME> LOL
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[14:05:08] <Soul|LOVEME> hahahah
[14:05:13] <matto> hehe... Ultima 7 3D and the biggest problem someone can think of is how big the download would be
[14:05:57] * Darke thinks Colourless has some "anger management" issues in his own right. <grin>
[14:06:28] <Soul|LOVEME> blasphemy!
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[14:06:48] <Soul|LOVEME> !rollthedice
[14:06:49] * MiniMe rolls a 6 and a 5!
[14:06:55] <Soul|LOVEME> I'm a high roller!
[14:07:00] * Darke still persists in looking innocent.
[14:12:00] * Darke notices the last two of Colourless' kick messages have been identical. I mean where is the creativity around here, this is an _utlima_ related forum right? Where is the "Thou art own3d n00b." and similar kick messages? <grin>
[14:12:14] <Soul|LOVEME> !8ball is darke just begging for it?
[14:12:15] * MiniMe looks in the 8 Ball and the answer is... 3 PLZ DIE NO ONE LIKES YOU
[14:12:19] <Soul|LOVEME> :(
[14:12:20] * Soul|LOVEME dies
[14:13:18] <sbx> In Mani Corp!
[14:13:23] <sbx> (?)
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[14:16:35] * Darke thinks Colourless' was laying down on the job a bit for that one. I mean it took him a whole _two_ minutes to kick me. <grin>
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[14:17:32] <Soul|LOVEME> !8ball give me a rough estimate of darke's mental supression rate
[14:17:34] * MiniMe looks in the 8 Ball and the answer is... 3 HOHO MADROX R LEIK HORSE PORN
[14:17:35] <-- Darke was kicked from #exult by Colourless (Plus it was a reasonably long thing to type)
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[14:17:41] <Soul|LOVEME> Hmmmm
[14:17:52] <Soul|LOVEME> Darkes mental supression == horse porn ??
[14:18:58] * Darke considers half a dozen answers to that question.
[14:19:09] <Soul|LOVEME> tell me three of them
[14:19:13] <sbx> how about "no"?
[14:19:59] <Soul|LOVEME> :(
[14:20:24] <sbx> at least, i assumed that would be one of Darke's answers :P
[14:20:52] * Darke considers which one of them is most likely going to get him kicked again... he might go with that one.
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[14:21:29] <Soul|LOVEME> the white snowballs... you know, outside is the white fluffy sweet covering with coconut sugar flakes, choclate on the inside with soft cream in the middle.... ORGASM!!!!
[14:21:38] <Soul|LOVEME> OMG OMG OMG OMG Y UM
[14:21:49] <sbx> ...
[14:22:53] * Darke considers this is the person who attempted to equate (or should I say equine) my mind with horse porn? <grin>
[14:23:04] <Soul|LOVEME> shh~!
[14:23:07] <Soul|LOVEME> Silence, you!
[14:24:31] <Darke> As to the answers, 1) No. 2) Just a sec... no, no horse porn. 3) Just a sec... no, no horse porn, but there's some 'rabbit porn'. <grin>
[14:25:02] <Soul|LOVEME> rabbit porn?
[14:25:07] <Soul|LOVEME> you sick, twisted individual
[14:25:15] * Darke ROFLs.
[14:25:24] <Soul|LOVEME> greenpeace will have your head!
[14:25:59] <sbx> when will SharpTooth be coming back?
[14:27:01] * Darke giggles and can point you to a website he was shown once if you wish. <snicker>
[14:27:36] <Soul|LOVEME> This is the story of a girl,
[14:27:39] <Soul|LOVEME> ... who went offline.
[14:28:28] * Darke 's writer is rofling at the moment. Please stand by.
[14:29:16] <Soul|LOVEME> "Hamilton looks a little ill"
[14:29:28] <Soul|LOVEME> "Hamiliton begins to spasm uncontrollably"
[14:29:33] <Soul|LOVEME> "You have lost a lot of karma"
[14:30:19] * Darke is occasionally _amazed_ at what you find on the web somedays. <grin>
[14:34:01] <Soul|LOVEME> wtf
[14:34:32] <Soul|LOVEME> "the new kid who is hot as f*** who just came to our school hates me now because I eat jellow with a straw (fucken weirdo)" ~ 'ashley'
[14:34:44] <Soul|LOVEME> the internet is a scary, SCARY place
[14:36:20] <Darke> Umm... you didn't realise this already? <grin> You have met me right?
[14:36:38] <Soul|LOVEME> Yes, but you're not so much "scary" as you are "intriguing"
[14:37:52] <Soul|LOVEME> hahahahahahahah
[14:39:28] * Darke bowfluffs at the 'intriguing' compliment and wonders what you're laughing about.
[14:41:40] * Darke thinks Colourless must be really busy, since he hasn't been kicked in quite a while.
[14:42:23] <-- Darke was kicked from #exult by Colourless (Yes I am)
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[14:42:58] * Darke grins, much better.
[14:44:54] <Soul|LOVEME> I got the urge to herbal.
[14:46:13] <Darke> EXPN? I don't think I've encountered 'herbal' used as a verb recently. <grin>
[14:46:31] <Soul|LOVEME> When you see the shirt, you will know.
[14:47:59] * Darke indexes the data for later retrieval.
[14:48:20] <Soul|LOVEME> Ralph: "I ated the purple berries! ... .... owwwww.... owwwwwwwww..." *falls over*
[14:48:45] <Soul|LOVEME> Bart: "How are they ralph? Good?"
[14:48:52] <Soul|LOVEME> Ralph: "They taste like... burning"
[14:52:51] <Darke> <blinkblink> Goggling for: "I got the urge to herbal" produced this: http://blossomignacio.tripod.com/blossomspage/id1.html
[14:52:59] <sbx> The verb for searching at Google is Goggling?
[14:53:33] <Darke> s/Goggling/Googling/ Typo. <grin>
[14:54:08] <sbx> ah
[14:56:15] <sbx> that is still... an interesting word
[14:56:38] * Darke is wondering if she just typed the entire think like that, or just ran some sort of wordmunging software over the site.
[14:58:41] <Soul|LOVEME> that site damages my logic registers
[14:58:46] <Soul|LOVEME> *** stack overflow
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[14:59:08] * Darke considers after some more reading of it... the site must have been munged by hand.
[14:59:14] <Soul|LOVEME> like i said
[14:59:40] <Colourless> :-)
[14:59:41] <Colourless> [1:29] <Soul|LOVEME> *** stack overflow
[14:59:41] <Colourless> [1:29] *** Soul|LOVEME has quit IRC (zahn.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net)
[14:59:56] <Colourless> hehe
[15:00:01] <Darke> I actually have almost no problem reading it, my eyes seem to adjust to the weird capitalisation after about 30 seconds. <grin>
[15:00:18] <Darke> Colourless: <grin> Yes it was particularly appropriate.
[15:00:23] * Colourless found: [ G]]
[15:00:34] <Colourless> sounds like something minime would say :-)
[15:01:22] <Soul|LOVEME> hey!
[15:01:25] <Soul|LOVEME> minime resents that!
[15:01:27] <Soul|LOVEME> be kind to him
[15:01:31] * Darke grins.
[15:02:09] * Darke is sooooo tempted to 8ball that question. <grin>
[15:03:23] * Darke considers he hasn't done anything to get Colourless to kick him in a while, so may as well.
[15:03:32] <Soul|LOVEME> ha
[15:03:37] <Darke> !8ball R U GaY?
[15:03:38] * MiniMe looks in the 8 Ball and the answer is... 3 Wait... no
[15:03:44] <Soul|LOVEME> LOL
[15:03:48] * Darke giggles.
[15:04:03] <Colourless> !8ball are you sure?
[15:04:03] * MiniMe looks in the 8 Ball and the answer is... 3 HOHO P00 R LIEK MANSECKS
[15:04:19] <Soul|LOVEME> he's avoiding the question
[15:04:30] <Colourless> let me rephrase
[15:04:31] * Darke continues to giggle.
[15:04:39] <Colourless> !8ball R U SURE?
[15:04:40] * MiniMe looks in the 8 Ball and the answer is... 3 ME > U
[15:04:46] <Soul|LOVEME> BOld.
[15:05:09] <sbx> haha Colourless
[15:05:25] <Darke> No, it's just in green, if it were in Bold... err... don't worry.
[15:05:50] <Soul|LOVEME> Quiet you.
[15:06:18] <sbx> !8ball Colourless > U?
[15:06:19] * MiniMe looks in the 8 Ball and the answer is... 3 U FIRST
[15:06:21] <Darke> Soul|LOVEME: <grin> Are you sure I don't know you from somewhere else? I tend to get that a lot. <innocentwiggle>
[15:06:32] <Soul|LOVEME> Silence.
[15:06:35] <Soul|LOVEME> No talk for you.
[15:06:42] <Darke> Soul|LOVEME: And that as well.
[15:06:48] <sbx> !8ball Colourless > ME?
[15:06:49] * MiniMe looks in the 8 Ball and the answer is... 3 STFU NOOBLER
[15:07:19] * Darke giggles.
[15:07:41] <Soul|LOVEME> I have to pay a $95 phone bill and a $100 power bill today
[15:07:56] <sbx> !8ball (Darke+Soul|LOVEME) * Colourless == MiniMe - exultbot?
[15:07:57] * MiniMe looks in the 8 Ball and the answer is... 3 AHAHA U SUXXOR IRL
[15:08:32] <sbx> !8ball !(matto|_Kreed_)?
[15:08:33] * MiniMe looks in the 8 Ball and the answer is... 3 LANDO IS MANEE FAGIT
[15:08:38] * Darke attempts to parse that as a programming construct and his head hurts.
[15:10:26] <Soul|LOVEME> The creature that i am is only going to destroy
[15:10:33] <Colourless> LANDO = MANEE FAGIT
[15:10:36] <Soul|LOVEME> And that's what i'd say if i was a whale
[15:10:49] <Soul|LOVEME> Minime speaks only in the fourth person.
[15:11:04] * Darke attempts to parse it again and boggles slightly. His head hurts even more now.
[15:11:09] <Colourless> !8ball is that true?
[15:11:09] * MiniMe looks in the 8 Ball and the answer is... 3 I CAUGHT SEVEN WATCHING JAPSCAT!
[15:11:21] <Soul|LOVEME> See!
[15:11:34] <Soul|LOVEME> !8ball what is three times the half of the sum of the product of the age?
[15:11:35] * MiniMe looks in the 8 Ball and the answer is... 3 I R LEET LIKE WOAHOHAHAA!
[15:11:46] <Soul|LOVEME> Indeed.
[15:11:48] * Soul|LOVEME ponders deeply
[15:13:10] * Darke tries to figure out how you'd multiply something with Colourless to produce MiniMe.
[15:13:46] <Soul|LOVEME> That would involve negative division
[15:13:56] <Soul|LOVEME> ... wait
[15:15:59] <sbx> !8ball #ifndef Darke for(sbx = 0; sbx < msgCount("Spark's Ass"); (MiniMe = opn_chan(exult(bg, si), sbx++))); MiniMe ? kick(MiniMe) : Soul|LOVEME #endif
[15:15:59] * Darke also wonders how you can mutiply and add something to Soul|LOVEME on one side of the equation, and still get a MiniMe on the other side.
[15:16:00] * MiniMe looks in the 8 Ball and the answer is... 3 NO U
[15:17:24] * Darke decides that makes even less sense, but it's better then multiplying with Colourless.
[15:17:47] * Darke innocentwiggles.
[15:18:06] <Soul|LOVEME> And minime deftly avoids the complex mathmatics involved by passing it back to sbx with a classic, "NO U"
[15:18:14] <Soul|LOVEME> mathEmatics *
[15:18:37] <sbx> !8ball Does MiniMe have a FPU?
[15:18:38] * MiniMe looks in the 8 Ball and the answer is... 3 IRLNO!
[15:18:51] <Darke> Well that answers that question.
[15:18:55] <Soul|LOVEME> ...
[15:19:01] <Soul|LOVEME> He's in denial
[15:19:17] <Darke> Soul|LOVEME: Is he sleeping with DeFishes?
[15:19:28] <Soul|LOVEME> Nay
[15:25:51] * Darke is wondering if Colourless is getting harder to taunt, or just more idle. <grin>
[15:26:17] <sbx> !8ball U LIKE #EXULTUN R R0X0RZ IRL?
[15:26:18] * MiniMe looks in the 8 Ball and the answer is... 3 STOP ASKING ME I HATE YOU
[15:26:29] * Darke giggles.
[15:26:30] <sbx> :-O
[15:27:08] <sbx> !8ball STFU LANDO
[15:27:09] * MiniMe looks in the 8 Ball and the answer is... 3 PLZ DIE
[15:27:29] <sbx> !8ball U FIRST
[15:27:29] * MiniMe looks in the 8 Ball and the answer is... 3 HOHO DRYWALL R GHEY
[15:27:43] <sbx> !8ball U DRYWALL > U
[15:27:43] * MiniMe looks in the 8 Ball and the answer is... 3 HOHO P00 R GHEY
[15:27:59] <sbx> !8ball Do I tire of this? :-)
[15:28:00] * MiniMe looks in the 8 Ball and the answer is... 3 ONLY RL FAGIT IS TEH KID
[15:28:18] * Darke wonders if sbx is _really_ getting outsmarted by a bot. <grin>
[15:28:49] * sbx is sleepy so... probably.
[15:29:03] <Soul|LOVEME> My bot can't be defeated, sadly, other then being kicked
[15:29:19] <sbx> !8ball Soul|LOVEME OWN J00
[15:29:20] * MiniMe looks in the 8 Ball and the answer is... 3 HOHO ATARI R GHEY
[15:29:27] <Soul|LOVEME> HEY
[15:32:46] * Darke doesn't think he's ever tried to roleplay a bot before. <grin>
[15:34:22] <Soul|LOVEME> you could learn from me!
[15:34:26] <Soul|LOVEME> ... nm
[15:34:31] <sbx> !BunnyBall Does MiniMe like me?
[15:34:52] <Soul|LOVEME> hmm
[15:34:57] <Soul|LOVEME> maybe i should give minime a !bunnyball
[15:35:02] <Soul|LOVEME> in fact, I just might do that later tonight
[15:35:14] <sbx> it would conflict with Darke's
[15:35:28] <Soul|LOVEME> i'll make it !killthebunny
[15:35:38] <Soul|LOVEME> or !rabbit or smth
[15:35:51] <Soul|LOVEME> then he'll give you the proper method of rabbit execution, at the time
[15:35:55] * Darke notes that 'bunnyball' is something he is not going to comment on, at _all_ right?
[15:36:17] <sbx> Darke: I assumed all respectable rabbit-like creatures had one.
[15:36:47] <sbx> !8ball Why doesn't dark have a BunnyBall?
[15:36:48] * MiniMe looks in the 8 Ball and the answer is... 3 TEH KID EATS STEAMING POO
[15:37:00] <Soul|LOVEME> THAT sure explains it!
[15:37:00] <sbx> dark? well whatever
[15:37:14] <sbx> hehe
[15:37:27] <Darke> sbx: No comment. <grin>
[15:39:36] <Soul|LOVEME> welp
[15:39:45] <Soul|LOVEME> most "places of business" open at 8am, correct?
[15:40:19] <sbx> hehe "The Baths" is a place of business
[15:40:34] <sbx> it doesn't open at 8am
[15:40:43] <Colourless> things in ultima open at 9 am
[15:40:50] <Darke> sbx: Exception that proves the rule.
[15:40:56] <Soul|LOVEME> i meant in corporate life
[15:40:59] <Soul|LOVEME> not ultima
[15:41:20] <Soul|LOVEME> i'm pose to go pay mah power bill, however I don't want to leave early and have to wait an hour, but i wanna get it done ASAP
[15:41:32] <Darke> Soul|LOVEME: Depends, 8am, 8:30am, or 9am usually in .au. Depending upon what the "place of business" is about.
[15:42:30] <Colourless> 9 am is the 'normal' time
[15:42:50] <Colourless> it just really depends on the business
[15:43:02] <Soul|LOVEME> damn lousy businessed
[15:43:06] <Soul|LOVEME> businesses *
[15:43:10] <Soul|LOVEME> why can't they conform to my schedule
[15:43:30] <Soul|LOVEME> my schedule went to bed 5 hours ago :(
[15:44:35] <Soul|LOVEME> i guess i'll do something un-soul like...
[15:44:41] <Soul|LOVEME> maybe I'll.... .... ... eat breakfast
[15:44:51] <Darke> Soul|LOVEME: Come down to .au then, you'll be almost perfectly on time. <grin>
[15:45:09] <Soul|LOVEME> but then that big bright thing would be up as the same time as me
[15:45:14] <Soul|LOVEME> I might get... a tan...
[15:45:22] * sbx eeks.
[15:45:26] <Soul|LOVEME> i'm supposed to be dreaming as it rises
[15:45:42] <Soul|LOVEME> then I hide indoors, dodging its powerful rays, until night
[15:45:44] * Darke doesn't have anything aproximating a tan, thankfully.
[15:45:45] * sbx is usually in his coffin at the time.
[15:45:46] <Soul|LOVEME> and at night.... OH YES AT NIGHT
[15:45:54] * Darke likes night. <grin>
[15:46:17] * Darke dodges Colourless' kick for that horrible pun. <grin>
[15:46:37] * sbx likes xbs.
[15:46:43] <sbx> ... nevermind
[15:46:54] <Soul|LOVEME> so in this grey haze, we'll be meeting again, and on that great day, i will tease you all the same
[15:47:05] <Soul|LOVEME> ... skip skip skip!
[15:47:25] <Soul|LOVEME> Sometimes it's scary, cotton manifestations of allure
[15:48:01] <sbx> cotton manifestations of allure hehe
[15:48:13] <Soul|LOVEME> Yes.
[15:48:19] <Soul|LOVEME> Sometimes I ponder that shape
[15:48:23] <Darke> Sometimes it's scary, you actually making sense. <grin> Must be the overtiredness.
[15:48:28] <sbx> this sounds like what someone in Ultima says if you answer the Copy Protection incorrect
[15:48:29] <Soul|LOVEME> Always look, never touch
[15:48:50] <Soul|LOVEME> still i'd give the world for that chance
[15:49:30] <Soul|LOVEME> warp!!!
[15:49:49] <Darke> "Let's do the time warp again!"
[15:49:53] <sbx> Ode to the orgasmic cottom manifestation! Embark on a rabbitish journey Darke's night. Feel the Soul|LOVEME in MiniMe, for the heart urks, and it bequeath it's radiant Exultishness.
[15:50:08] * sbx jumps to the left for Darke.
[15:50:26] <Soul|LOVEME> forever
[15:50:31] <Darke> sbx: You're _so_ tempting me to add that to the exult quote's file aren't you?
[15:51:17] <Soul|LOVEME> the piercing radiant moon
[15:51:23] <Darke> Subtitled "##exult on a dark and stormy night..."
[15:51:24] <Soul|LOVEME> the storming of poor june ( :( )
[15:51:26] * sbx thinks Soul|LOVEME has said things much stranger.
[15:51:29] <Soul|LOVEME> all the life running, through her hair
[15:51:34] <Soul|LOVEME> approaching guiding light
[15:51:44] <Soul|LOVEME> her shallows are all in fright
[15:51:46] <Darke> sbx: Yes, but not related to exult strange. <grin>
[15:51:47] <Soul|LOVEME> dreams are made winding
[15:51:50] <Soul|LOVEME> through my head
[15:51:54] <Soul|LOVEME> HEHEHE
[15:52:07] <Soul|LOVEME> before you know... .... wake
[15:52:19] <Soul|LOVEME> your lives are open wide
[15:52:23] <Soul|LOVEME> the V chip gives them sight
[15:52:24] * Darke is going to add one quote though, something Wumpus said yesterday about cannons. <grin>
[15:52:27] <Soul|LOVEME> of all the life running, through her hair
[15:52:31] <sbx> Darke: what?
[15:52:36] <Soul|LOVEME> the spiders' all entombed, the evening of the moon
[15:52:43] <Soul|LOVEME> dreams are made winding, through my head
[15:52:47] <Soul|LOVEME> Also
[15:52:52] <sbx> Soul|LOVEME: the V chip casts dark, for infravision is the key
[15:52:52] <Soul|LOVEME> !rollthedice
[15:52:53] * MiniMe rolls a 6 and a 3!
[15:52:57] <Darke> Cyeah cannons are fairly compact
[15:52:57] <Darke> Ci had several in my backpack :) (three i think)...
[15:52:57] <Darke> L - Wumpus on ##exult
[15:53:12] <sbx> hehe
[15:53:21] <sbx> they really are
[15:53:24] <Soul|LOVEME> DARK IS THE LIGHT
[15:53:26] <Darke> I just thought that was... so exult. <grin>
[15:53:27] <Soul|LOVEME> the man you fight
[15:53:35] <Soul|LOVEME> with all your prayers , incantations
[15:53:41] <Soul|LOVEME> running away, a trivial dat
[15:53:49] <Soul|LOVEME> judgement and deliverance
[15:53:55] <Soul|LOVEME> to whom was sold this bounty soul
[15:53:59] <Soul|LOVEME> a gentile or priest?
[15:54:04] <sbx> "Oink!"
[15:54:13] <Soul|LOVEME> who victored over the seljuks?!
[15:54:17] <Soul|LOVEME> when the holy land was taken
[15:54:35] <Soul|LOVEME> was it the riches of the land?
[15:54:42] <Soul|LOVEME> powers of briiiiiight darkness
[15:54:47] <Soul|LOVEME> that lead the noble to the east
[15:54:50] <Soul|LOVEME> to FIGHT THE HEATHENS
[15:55:05] <Soul|LOVEME> Call of the righteous man
[15:55:09] <Soul|LOVEME> needs a reason to kill a man
[15:55:13] <Soul|LOVEME> history teaches us so
[15:55:19] <Soul|LOVEME> the reason he must attain
[15:55:19] <sbx> Soul|LOVEME: A manifistation supreme. The universal clock ticks for the hungry peasants. Come forth and rise up, workers of the game, for it is single minded and fleeting!
[15:55:29] <Soul|LOVEME> must be approved by his god
[15:55:36] <Soul|LOVEME> his child, partisan brother of war
[15:55:45] <Soul|LOVEME> Ok.
[15:55:53] <Soul|LOVEME> Dancing animals!
[15:55:55] <Soul|LOVEME> JOY JOY JOY
[15:56:06] * Darke supports the rights of animals to dance.
[15:56:59] <Soul|LOVEME> Also,
[15:57:53] <sbx> Rabbit steps, the mountain on high. Crusaders of the ambidextrous, you are the righteous. The minds of #exult are piercing and lack the Oink frustration.
[15:58:21] <Soul|LOVEME> And
[15:58:51] <Soul|LOVEME> You know I've started to grow, since you've been away
[15:59:13] <Soul|LOVEME> Lately it's scarier not knowing what's become of you. Oh you're proud of me now, I can tell... I'm not as fearless as you.
[15:59:26] <sbx> Live in your trailer parks! The glowing orb of destruction rises and smashes the spindle of dissatisfaction!
[15:59:28] <Soul|LOVEME> Still I pretend that you're still standing by, to tell me wrong from right, never got a chance to say goodbye.
[15:59:31] <sbx> bah
[15:59:40] <Soul|LOVEME> A won is that man.
[16:00:02] <sbx> !8ball Is Soul|LOVEME reading lyrics?
[16:00:02] * MiniMe looks in the 8 Ball and the answer is... 3 NO...... U!
[16:00:08] <Soul|LOVEME> I do not support the hotdog people
[16:00:27] <Soul|LOVEME> Welcome lamb!
[16:01:53] <Soul|LOVEME> Iron towers looming over the swamp ...
[16:01:53] <Soul|LOVEME> They have no face, they are metal.
[16:01:53] <Soul|LOVEME> They stand so tall with their glazed faceless selves
[16:01:53] <sbx> Soul|LOVEME dies by the pork, a disshevelled excuse for the sbx in all of us. Eat your iron sheep and beware of all who will cry for strangeness.
[16:01:53] <Soul|LOVEME> Fireflies burn in the night, I said "Haha I can relate"
[16:01:53] <Soul|LOVEME> The vacant purple sky is gone, replaced by this black vale of pudding
[16:02:01] <Soul|LOVEME> there's nobody there
[16:02:19] * sbx resets the game so everyone will talk normal again.
[16:03:05] <Soul|LOVEME> we wiiiit WOW
[16:07:32] <Soul|LOVEME> ok well
[16:07:45] * Darke trips over the U5: Lazarus webpage, and thinks it looks _really_ pretty, and hopes it actually goes somewhere.
[16:07:54] <Soul|LOVEME> i'm gonna eat some nasty ass imitation fruit loops, then go get some cash, buy a phone card, and pay mah power bill
[16:08:00] <Soul|LOVEME> It will :)
[16:08:12] <Soul|LOVEME> Anything I'm a part of HAS to be good
[16:08:14] <Soul|LOVEME> right?
[16:08:15] <sbx> is it 3D?
[16:08:18] <Soul|LOVEME> yeah
[16:08:25] <Soul|LOVEME> at least, DS is
[16:08:29] <sbx> i think i saw drawings?
[16:08:29] * Darke grins and didn't know you were actually a part of it.
[16:08:35] <Soul|LOVEME> look on the roster
[16:08:44] <Soul|LOVEME> I must say byefornow
[16:08:50] <Darke> Bye. <bow>
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[16:08:53] <matto> Darke: where is that U5 web page?
[16:09:00] <Soul|GivinLuvToBills> www.u5lazarus.com
[16:09:07] <Soul|GivinLuvToBills> bye
[16:09:11] <sbx> Bye. <bow>
[16:09:41] <Colourless> cya
[16:15:50] <Darke> Colourless: Random thought relating to the DC port. Can you think of any libraries we're using that may have problems compiling on it?
[16:15:50] <matto> Darke: hmm.. yes the web page looks nice but at this point, their whole project appears to be vaporware
[16:16:08] <Colourless> the project is vaporware, because the engine that is supposed to use is vaporware
[16:16:38] * Darke nods, that's where his 'hopes it actually goes somewhere' comes from. <grin>
[16:16:39] <matto> Colourless: hehehe.. yeah I noticed that
[16:16:40] <Colourless> Darke: really, I can't think of anything, but ideally, SDL shouldn't be used in a DC pory
[16:16:57] <Colourless> s/pory/port/
[16:17:18] <sbx> The whole discussion about a DC port came from the fact that there is libSDL for DC didn't it?
[16:17:27] <matto> I honestly don't know why someone went to all the trouble of making that fancy web page without having at least a screenshot of the game first
[16:17:42] <matto> it would make a lot more sense for someone to spruce up the exult web page ...
[16:17:52] <sbx> exult page is nice
[16:17:54] <Darke> (DCport) I'm just thinking of the little utility libraries we use like the zip lib.
[16:18:14] <matto> I didn't say it wasn't... but I would say that that lazarus page is nicer :)
[16:18:15] <Colourless> the zip lib would need modifying to work
[16:18:30] <matto> (nicer and more useless)
[16:18:38] <Colourless> for some reason I have a feeling that fopen just wont work ;-)
[16:18:56] <Darke> Offhand can you think of any other libraries we use? I'm not too familiar with the dependancies. <grin>
[16:19:23] <Colourless> no other libraries, we only use SDL and Zlib
[16:19:32] <Darke> libSDL and libz are the only two I can think of.
[16:19:38] <matto> zlib!
[16:19:46] <matto> what is zlib used for? crc?
[16:19:55] <Colourless> zipfile compression of savegames
[16:19:59] <matto> oh
[16:20:31] * sbx wonders when matto last played Exult.
[16:21:10] <matto> sbx: I don't really play it for real, I just look at it from time to time to see the progress :)
[16:21:14] <Darke> (DCport) exult.cfg file would need exception handling for, we'd probably have to save the 'defaults' to the savegame file.
[16:21:29] <sbx> hehe
[16:21:34] * matto doesn't want to start a game and have the savegame structure get changed or something like that ..
[16:23:32] <Darke> (savefiles) I suppose to shrink the save files down even further, we could do a 'diff' between the original files and the changes, and only save the changes. You don't need to save 95% of the objects that never get moved in a game into a savegame file. <grin>
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[16:25:41] <wjp> hi
[16:25:44] <matto> WJP!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[16:25:53] <Darke> Hi wjp.
[16:25:58] <sbx> hi wjp
[16:26:03] * matto nudges Darke (you forgot to bow)
[16:26:03] <Colourless> hi
[16:27:01] * Darke notes he doesn't bow when he's curled up on the couch in a half-asleep state, mumbling about an exult DC port.
[16:29:06] <matto> Darke: why do you want a DC port? haven't you seen how awesome the SNES version of Ultima 7 is? :)
[16:29:57] * Darke doesn't really 'want' a DC port, he doesn't even own one. <grin> It's just the thought processes behind it that he's interested int.
[16:35:29] <sbx> Darke: I finally figured out how to pick out the relevant bits of opcodes.txt for a string conversion table.
[16:36:30] <Darke> Umm... how do you mean?
[16:36:55] * Darke gets the feeling he's a little sleepy.
[16:38:12] <sbx> I mean the methods I kept trying before either picked up the wrong data columns or trimmed off parts of the information, or caused the program to segfault... but I think it works now. :P
[16:38:53] * sbx should note that he has used a ton of assertions because he is sleepy too.
[16:41:01] * Darke ahhs.
[17:07:47] * Darke bowfluffs, "Night all, must sleep."
[17:07:55] <wjp> night
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[17:09:00] <matto> sbx: assertions!
[17:11:28] <matto> bah.. dungeon siege
[17:12:00] <matto> at least that Ultima 1 project had a playable technology test
[17:12:55] <sbx> are they still working on it?
[17:13:04] <matto> what? the ultima 1 project or dungeon siege?
[17:13:09] <sbx> ultima 1
[17:13:19] <matto> as far as I know.. my brother hasn't told me otherwise and he's been following it
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[17:13:47] <Colourless> hi
[17:13:50] <matto> Fingolfin!!!!!!
[17:14:02] <Fingolfin> hi
[17:14:02] <matto> mmmmm Deutsche Telekom
[17:14:07] <wjp> hi
[17:14:31] <matto> out of all the ultima retro projects, exult seems by far the most useful at this point
[17:15:07] <Colourless> the U4 and U5 hacks are pretty good
[17:15:28] <matto> really? I haven't looked at them yet.. my brother was telling me about a U4 hack
[17:15:35] <sbx> hi Fingolfin
[17:17:07] <matto> anyone remember Saduj from Ultima 5? hehe
[17:18:08] <sbx> i remember being freaked out
[17:18:30] <matto> yeah?
[17:18:48] <matto> how so?
[17:19:07] <sbx> It took me a while to figure out why I was getting hit more than I should...
[17:19:09] <Fingolfin> what U4/U5 hacks? I only know that "graphics kit" or how it should be called that gave U4 an almost complete new look, much nicer
[17:19:41] <matto> Fingolfin: I think that's the one I heard about ... I think my brother said it gave it 256 colors or something
[17:20:00] <sbx> ... and when I figured it out he would run but if we ended the battle we would still camp with him. :-)
[17:20:52] <matto> sbx: hehehe.. so what was the deal with him? you couldn't control him in combat?
[17:21:26] <sbx> I don't remember if you could control him ever, but he was working with Blackthorne(you don't figure this out unless you ask him about it I think).
[17:21:26] <Fingolfin> matto: yeag
[17:21:29] <matto> I remember when you talk to him he'd ask you if you were a member of the oppression.. and if you said no, he would say "neither am I" and if you said yes, he'd ask you to prove it by telling him the password
[17:21:56] <matto> a friend told me to have him join the party, take all his stuff, then drop him off at an inn
[17:22:25] <sbx> why not kill him?
[17:22:37] <matto> don't you lose an eighth if you try that?
[17:22:45] <matto> "thou hast lost an eighth!"
[17:23:17] <sbx> an eighth what? points to get on LB's good side?
[17:23:22] * sbx doesn't remember the game all that much.
[17:23:42] <matto> actually that was Ultima 4 where you'd lose an eighth
[17:24:08] <matto> you had to do virtuous deeds and meditate at the shrines and eventually you'd get an eighth of an ankh
[17:24:17] <matto> once you got all 8 virtues down then you were ready to take on the abyss
[17:24:54] <matto> if you got part of the ankh and then did something bad, it would take the eighth away from you and inform you that you had lost an eighth
[17:25:01] <matto> for example, if you retreated from combat, you'd lose valor
[17:25:13] <matto> if you stole food you'd lose honesty, and probably justice also
[17:25:23] <matto> if you refused to give to the beggar you'd lose compassion
[17:25:47] <matto> a good way to rack up sacrifice was to give blood in the castle and then have lord british heal you hehe
[17:26:23] * sbx remembers U4 even less.
[17:26:25] <matto> ULtima 4.. that game was cool
[17:26:33] <matto> but it took too long to get all the virtues
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[18:19:49] * sbx has to go.
[18:19:50] <sbx> ?date
[18:19:50] <exultbot> It is now Fri Dec 7 18:19:50 2001 (GMT).
[18:19:53] <sbx> good eventing
[18:19:57] <Colourless> cya
[18:19:58] <sbx> s/eventing/evening
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[18:30:44] <comat0se> long live spark's shiny ass!
[18:40:47] <_Kreed_> I SEE THE LIGHT
[18:43:22] <comat0se> Spark, you light up my life.
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[18:54:07] <wjp> back
[18:54:37] <Colourless> wb
[18:54:41] <wjp> thx
[18:59:31] <wjp> Fingolfin: portable alert box thingie sounds like a good idea
[18:59:44] <wjp> (Re: mail from yesterday)
[19:05:37] <Fingolfin> wjp: we discussed it in the past, didn't we...
[19:05:45] <wjp> yeah, LONG ago
[19:06:46] <wjp> I wonder if Xlib has any easy dialog box functions like win32
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[19:59:05] <Fingolfin> interesting...
[19:59:19] <Fingolfin> when I switch exult to full screen under OS X, I get a seg fault
[19:59:27] <Fingolfin> the parachute deploys
[20:03:35] <Fingolfin> but if I start it in full screen mode, it works just fine... weird
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