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[11:48:57] <CaliMonk> heya
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[12:31:01] <CaliMonk> hi
[12:31:11] <Kirben> Hi
[12:33:00] <CaliMonk> i found a bug in exult. When i defeated the demon (soul cage) and i took back the girl (forgot the name) to trent, she got stuck in the table. Then when you go to ask for the sacrifice that has to be made, he/she say where is 'bla bla i can't find him/her" and you can't ask them the sacrifice and the mayor keeps telling me to ask them so its kind of a plot stopper
[12:33:06] <CaliMonk> i used the hackmover to fix it though
[12:33:44] <CaliMonk> but you need to talk to everyone before the mayor jumps in the well of souls
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[12:38:30] <Dominus|> hi all, my nickname is taken
[12:38:42] <Dominus|> calimonk
[12:39:43] <Dominus|> I read your comment in the logs right now and wanted to jump in and tell you that it is normal for the mayor not to sacrifice himself before all others do it
[12:39:55] <Dominus|> hmpf, before all others say no
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[12:43:26] <Dominus|> hi colourless
[12:43:34] <Colourless> hi
[12:45:51] <Dominus|> Colourless: did you see my post on the mailinglist that the sfx conversion is now obsolete? in exult.cfg, new game menu and source
[12:47:03] <Colourless> yeah
[13:07:30] <Kirben> Colourless:what happened to MIDI fix ?
[13:07:46] <Colourless> ?
[13:08:40] <Kirben> http://www.jackchaos.com/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=exult&Post=458&Idle=90&Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=0&Session=
[13:08:56] <Colourless> hmm. I made the changes. Must have forgotten to commit
[13:09:03] <Colourless> or got my password wrong or something
[13:10:08] <Kirben> ok was just hoping to get changes in next snapshot
[13:10:31] <Colourless> it will be any second now
[13:10:42] <CaliMonk> dominus
[13:10:45] <CaliMonk> i know the major wont
[13:10:47] <CaliMonk> my point was
[13:10:52] <CaliMonk> that because the girl was stuck in the table
[13:10:56] <CaliMonk> you couldn't ask her or trent
[13:10:59] <CaliMonk> for a sacrifice
[13:11:07] <CaliMonk> because they were like "hey where trent?"
[13:11:07] <Dominus|> ahh, ok, sorry
[13:11:11] <CaliMonk> or "hey where's she?"
[13:11:21] <CaliMonk> so i had to hackmove her out of the table
[13:11:22] <CaliMonk> before i could ask them
[13:11:26] <CaliMonk> so its a plot stopper :)
[13:11:49] <Kirben> Don't forget to log bug at http://sourceforge.net/bugs/?group_id=2335
[13:12:16] <Dominus|> and is it reproducable, meaning, does it happen all the time?
[13:12:29] <CaliMonk> uhm dunno for sure
[13:12:40] <Colourless> Kirben: The changes have been committed.
[13:12:45] <Kirben> thanks
[13:13:13] <Kirben> recompiling now
[13:29:51] <Kirben> Its out
[13:30:39] <Colourless> ok
[13:37:06] <Kirben> hmm something seems broken
[13:37:18] <Colourless> where?
[13:37:21] <Kirben> double clicking on Avatar no longer brings up inventory
[13:37:44] <Kirben> i shortcut works though
[13:37:59] <Dominus|> right, now that you say it
[13:38:13] <Colourless> yeah
[13:38:29] <Colourless> checking on a build from yesterday it didn't work then eiter
[13:39:10] <CaliMonk> 'uh oh' ;p
[13:39:23] <Colourless> i think I know what is causing the bug. I think that the game may be attempting to start a conversation with the avatar
[13:39:33] <Kirben> I have not played builds for awhile myself
[13:39:38] <Colourless> nope, don't think that's it
[13:40:00] <Kirben> BTW armageddon spell doesn't crash exult here
[13:40:27] <Dominus|> must have been wjp when he changed the keyboard shortcuts
[13:40:40] <Dominus|> made 1,2,3 ... pop up the inventory
[13:40:46] <Dominus|> my guess
[13:41:28] <Colourless> you can't open Av's inventory in combat mode either, but you can open everyone elses
[13:41:41] <Dominus|> Kirben: and I asked calimonk if his bug is reproducable, it doesnt crash for me all the time
[13:41:52] <Dominus|> it seems
[13:41:57] <Colourless> doesn't work in pickpocket mode either
[13:42:29] <Colourless> armageddon worked here as wekk
[13:44:27] <Dominus|> Kirben: next snapshot, I updated the faq in the source right now again :-) (people are never satisfied with what I write :-))
[13:45:19] <Colourless> i've got an idea. Might be a little difficult to impliment, not sure though.
[13:46:05] <Colourless> I was thinking that when you've got a gump open, the hand cursor should only appear when your mouse is over a gump. When it's over the world, the arrow move and combat cursors should be shown instead
[13:50:04] <Dominus|> nice idea, if the game pauses while in hand cursor that would be ultimate (not really being serious with this)
[13:50:17] <Colourless> :)
[13:51:32] <Colourless> not going to happen :)
[13:52:08] <Dominus|> damn, all my god ideas go to waste
[13:52:15] <Dominus|> god=good
[13:52:39] <Dominus|> evil=bad
[13:53:10] <Colourless> hehe
[13:58:45] <Colourless> get your religous preachings out of #exult
[13:59:01] <Colourless> i'm the op here, you'll do what I say
[13:59:10] <Dominus|> oh no, that again
[13:59:23] <Colourless> hehe
[14:01:36] <Dominus|> now Im going to take this preaching to my girlfriend. You did it Im out of here (I love it when I can have a big exit scene)
[14:01:53] <Dominus|> cu
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[14:01:58] <Colourless> bye
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[14:17:50] <Kirben> night
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[14:17:56] <Colourless> night
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[15:52:43] <CaliMonk> heyas
[15:52:49] <CaliMonk> you know that bug where the keep following your mouse is becomming irritating :p
[15:53:03] <Colourless> ?
[15:53:06] <CaliMonk> so is the one where you can't take stuff from people, very hatefull in dungeons
[15:53:24] <CaliMonk> if you walk for a while
[15:53:30] <CaliMonk> and then stop pressing your button
[15:53:35] <CaliMonk> they tend to keep following it
[15:53:37] <Colourless> ah.
[15:53:39] <CaliMonk> your cursor that is
[15:53:41] <CaliMonk> very irritating
[15:53:43] <Colourless> I hate that too
[15:54:01] <CaliMonk> and the items bug is still the biggest bummer
[15:54:05] <CaliMonk> i have a questions
[15:54:11] <CaliMonk> where is the dungeon of despire
[15:54:15] <CaliMonk> :)
[15:54:25] <Colourless> never heard of it :)
[15:54:27] <CaliMonk> they say north west of britainna
[15:54:37] <CaliMonk> but can't find one
[15:54:37] <Colourless> i think they mean despise
[15:54:40] <CaliMonk> yeas
[15:54:42] <CaliMonk> despise
[15:54:43] <CaliMonk> my bad
[15:54:45] <CaliMonk> where is it lol
[15:56:22] <CaliMonk> where are the dungeons of despise
[15:56:25] <CaliMonk> they said north west
[15:56:32] <CaliMonk> i go nort and a tiny tad west
[15:56:34] <Colourless> just a second
[15:56:36] <CaliMonk> and i find a big cave
[15:56:41] <CaliMonk> go through the whole damn thing
[15:56:48] <CaliMonk> and i only find magical weapons sheesh
[15:57:55] <Colourless> http://www.users.on.net/triforce/despise.png - My mouse points to the enterance
[15:58:06] <CaliMonk> ooh lemme see
[15:59:25] <CaliMonk> hmm
[15:59:32] <CaliMonk> how the hell do i get accross that water... hmmz
[15:59:52] <Colourless> you can walk along the northern edge of the river upto the enterance
[15:59:59] <CaliMonk> ooh
[16:00:02] <CaliMonk> thanks :)
[16:00:18] <CaliMonk> my exult crashed earlier
[16:00:19] <CaliMonk> i died
[16:00:22] <CaliMonk> and when i died
[16:00:32] <CaliMonk> they told me the strory that i was unconsious etc twice
[16:00:35] <CaliMonk> then i teleported
[16:00:38] <CaliMonk> and it crashed
[16:00:49] <Colourless> that's no good
[16:01:03] <CaliMonk> i know :)
[16:24:42] <CaliMonk> oh another thing :)
[16:24:53] <Colourless> uh oh
[16:24:53] <CaliMonk> If i try to sell kessler silver snake venom
[16:25:01] <CaliMonk> he says ah good i see you ahve venom we should talk bla bla
[16:25:09] <CaliMonk> but he doesn't buy them
[16:25:14] <CaliMonk> he did when i head like 4
[16:25:17] <CaliMonk> but i have 25 now
[16:25:21] <CaliMonk> or something like that
[16:25:28] <CaliMonk> head = had
[16:25:33] <Colourless> hmmm
[16:25:41] <Colourless> put it on the bug list
[16:27:12] <CaliMonk> ok
[16:36:32] <CaliMonk> submitted
[17:43:45] <CaliMonk> ooh cool
[17:43:50] <CaliMonk> there's this carpet in a house
[17:43:54] <CaliMonk> and i can walk underneath it
[17:43:59] <CaliMonk> its also part on top of a bed :)
[17:51:27] <CaliMonk> oh also when you try to use something (ie. wool on the machine where the spidle actualy should go on) then your party members make a comment like you should use this and that first. In paperdoll mode, the item you tried to use disappears. If you switch out of paperdoll mode you can remove it from yourself.
[17:59:20] <CaliMonk> hmm where the hell is the dungeon deceit
[17:59:41] <Colourless> north of moonglow
[17:59:51] <CaliMonk> oh ok thanks :)
[18:13:24] <CaliMonk> hm
[18:13:28] <CaliMonk> in this generator is some monster
[18:13:38] <CaliMonk> is he supposed to die when i fight against him?
[18:13:50] <CaliMonk> coz he keeps hitting and so do i but he keeps blinking every 5 seconds
[18:14:08] <CaliMonk> magic ain't working
[18:14:19] <Colourless> from memory, you can only kill him with magic weapons
[18:14:24] <CaliMonk> ok
[18:14:27] <CaliMonk> lemme try
[18:15:37] <CaliMonk> is he supposed to blink every 2 or 3 seconds
[18:15:59] <Colourless> i think it's a bug
[18:16:17] <CaliMonk> me too
[18:16:23] <CaliMonk> coz i've been hitting him with this firewand
[18:16:26] <CaliMonk> for 10 minutes
[18:16:29] <CaliMonk> but he ain't dying
[18:16:30] <CaliMonk> :)
[18:16:32] <Colourless> he can be killed.
[18:16:42] <CaliMonk> so this is basicly a big plot stopper
[18:16:54] <CaliMonk> how can i kill him
[18:16:54] <Colourless> i don't think not killing him is a bug
[18:17:26] <CaliMonk> hmm
[18:17:33] <CaliMonk> i'm using a magic wand
[18:21:47] <CaliMonk> trheh glasssword had no effect
[18:23:01] <CaliMonk> sword of deffence no effect
[18:23:03] <CaliMonk> strange thing is
[18:23:06] <CaliMonk> i'm not dying either
[18:23:11] <CaliMonk> and i don't have godmode or something on
[18:26:07] <CaliMonk> this dude is seriously NOT dying
[18:27:03] <CaliMonk> its the Ethereal Monster
[18:27:47] <Colourless> not sure what's going on. all i do know is that killing it is really really hard
[18:28:02] <CaliMonk> well
[18:28:09] <CaliMonk> he's been hitting him for like 15 minutes now
[18:28:16] <CaliMonk> even the glass sword had no effect
[18:32:48] <CaliMonk> ok it died.. i switched paperdolls off, and placed the glassword in 1 hand and defence sword in the other
[18:58:15] <CaliMonk> i think it was because i hit him the moment he was really there
[18:58:21] <CaliMonk> the other times was because he was blinking
[18:58:30] <CaliMonk> and he didn't hit him or something like that i guess
[19:09:13] <CaliMonk> hmm where is the north sea island ruins...
[19:09:33] <Colourless> somwhere
[19:09:42] <CaliMonk> lol
[19:09:57] <CaliMonk> somewhere north east
[19:09:59] <CaliMonk> lol
[19:21:26] <CaliMonk> So i'm supposed to vfind ambrosia by just wandering around on the boat or do i like need to get instructions from someone coz i kinda misplaced my boat.. *sigh*
[19:21:50] <Colourless> you'll need your boat, or the magic carpet
[19:22:30] <CaliMonk> hmm ok thanks
[19:24:11] <CaliMonk> uhm why did it just crash when i pressed save.. bah
[19:24:57] <Colourless> how recent is your copy of exult?
[19:25:04] <CaliMonk> uhm
[19:25:09] <CaliMonk> june 6
[19:25:28] <Colourless> hmm.
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[19:46:10] <wjp> hi
[19:46:29] <Colourless> hi
[19:46:38] <wjp> Colourless: quick note: dbl-clicking on avatar fails because it executes Container_game_object::activate instead of Actor::activate
[19:47:00] <Colourless> ah
[19:47:04] <Colourless> wanna fix it?
[19:47:16] <wjp> learning for tomorrow's exam
[19:47:20] <wjp> no time :-)
[19:47:37] <wjp> maybe tomorrow, if it hasn't been fixed by then
[19:48:35] <wjp> CaliMonk: the 'blinking' of the ethereal monster is probably an empty frame in is attack animation; that shouldn't affect if you can hit it or not
[19:50:46] <CaliMonk> ok
[19:50:52] <CaliMonk> well it took me 15 minutes though
[19:50:57] <CaliMonk> and i do mean 15 minutes
[19:50:59] <CaliMonk> btw
[19:51:07] <CaliMonk> is there supposed to be a scoll saying this
[19:51:33] <CaliMonk> Scroll of ininifty
[19:51:39] <wjp> yeah
[19:51:44] <wjp> and then some weird code
[19:51:50] <wjp> well, pseudo-code
[19:51:52] <CaliMonk> artifact ofreality
[19:51:53] <CaliMonk> etc
[19:51:54] <CaliMonk> yea
[19:51:58] <Colourless> i really should be off to bed
[19:52:12] <wjp> hmm, I get hit probabilities of -1 when attacking ethereal monster
[19:52:16] <wjp> g'night
[19:53:04] <Colourless> cya
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[19:53:25] <wjp> leveling up a couple of times makes it 1
[19:53:37] <wjp> that makes 15 minutes very believable :-)
[19:55:05] <CaliMonk> ooso the animation frame is broken
[19:55:15] <CaliMonk> well
[19:55:21] <CaliMonk> it was 10 minutes
[19:55:23] <CaliMonk> AT least
[19:55:27] <CaliMonk> coz i was calling with my gf
[19:55:33] <CaliMonk> and i was letting avatar just fight
[19:55:39] <CaliMonk> and at one point
[19:55:47] <CaliMonk> i gave him a glasssword in his other hand as well
[19:55:54] <CaliMonk> and at that point it died
[19:55:59] <CaliMonk> before that it was just blinking
[19:56:01] <CaliMonk> and i was hitting it
[19:56:08] <CaliMonk> i didn't seem to get hit though
[19:56:22] <wjp> yeah, it has a chance of about 2% to get hit
[19:56:43] <wjp> I've got it down to 22 hitpoints now :-)
[19:56:45] <wjp> (out of 30)
[19:57:57] <CaliMonk> but the animation is broken right
[19:58:01] <wjp> yeah
[19:58:16] <CaliMonk> so your at the same point in the game
[19:58:21] <wjp> teleport :-)
[19:58:24] <CaliMonk> or do you like just select how for you wanna be
[19:58:25] <CaliMonk> ah ok
[19:58:34] <CaliMonk> so you weren't officialy there yet
[19:58:42] <wjp> no
[19:58:48] <CaliMonk> how did you see how many hitpoints it has
[19:58:52] <wjp> debug mode
[19:59:14] <wjp> other possibility:
[19:59:19] <wjp> click on monster, press F2
[19:59:36] <wjp> press 'N' for npc-tool, and then enter to select current NPC
[19:59:49] <CaliMonk> ah ok
[20:02:01] <wjp> I should get back to studying :/
[20:02:25] <wjp> tot ziens :-)
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[20:09:42] <chimera|wookin> well fine!!
[20:10:29] <CaliMonk> hehe
[20:12:15] <chimera|wookin> CaliMonk!!!
[20:12:28] <CaliMonk> heya
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