#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 7 Nov 2012 (GMT)

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[09:18:55] * Dominus must not reply. No no... http://exult.sourceforge.net/forum/read.php?f=1&i=441110&t=441110
[09:19:14] <Dominus> "I've made a LOT of rapid progress, and added tons of features they've wanted to add themselves, and more."
[09:19:45] <Dominus> "for example, I've implemented a plugin system using the .Net framework."
[09:20:02] <Dominus> "The best part, is that you get the full power of the .Net framework. (I'm writing the game using it, if that gives you an idea of how powerful the plugin API will be.)"
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[13:52:55] <Eviltar_> im thinking smoke has aspurgers syndrom or something
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[17:16:06] <Marzo> Smoke at a thread: "The best part, is that you get the full power of the .Net framework."
[17:16:44] <Marzo> So he considers the best part of his engine to be the fact that it uses a proprietary framework that makes it extremely easy to lock himself to one platform
[17:16:46] <Marzo> Huh
[17:19:47] <Marzo> I am trying to find a way to explain nicely to him that he is being a moron, but I am coming up with nothing; any suggestions?
[17:30:29] <Eviltar_> ask him if he plans to maintain mac and linux builds
[17:30:50] <Eviltar_> and xbox, psp, pg2x, etc
[17:30:55] <Eviltar_> gp2x*
[17:45:31] <Marzo> Dominus: what do you think of a reply like this to smoke: http://pastebin.com/09NXj07Y
[17:45:45] <Marzo> Eviltar_: you can weigh in too, if you like
[17:50:52] <Marzo> (by the way: the paste expires in 1 hour)
[17:56:22] <TheCycoONE> Marzo: where's the original report?
[17:56:54] <Marzo> TheCycoONE: http://exult.sourceforge.net/forum/read.php?f=1&i=441110&t=441110
[17:57:17] <Marzo> Read the last two posts by smoke to see what I am replying to
[17:57:26] <Marzo> And note that it is not a report
[18:00:54] <TheCycoONE> ah ok. I think your response may be too harsh then - he called it a port once, that was probably just carelessness. Just making it clear that upstream doesn't approve and you'd prefer he moved discusson off the exult site
[18:01:08] <TheCycoONE> should be enough
[18:01:22] <Dominus> marzo, I'm not sure whether ignoring him is the better solution. OTOH it is clear that sooner or later we will have to enforce peace because he *will* use the originals graphics files
[18:01:52] <Dominus> and as long as he stops polluting other threads with his nonsense...
[18:02:11] <Marzo> Dominus: I am not sure ignoring is good: it tends not to work
[18:02:23] <Dominus> but then again, he rubs me wrong in all the right places to deal out such an answer :)
[18:03:10] <Dominus> so if you want to write this I'm supporting you
[18:04:05] <TheCycoONE> ah, you guys own some assets?
[18:06:43] <Dominus> huh?
[18:07:43] <TheCycoONE> that comment about enforce the peace - I guess I misunderstood
[18:08:38] <Dominus> it's when he uses the U7 graphic files and advertises in the forum it's bad for us, we can't have that.
[18:08:51] <Dominus> and I'm just assuming he will :)
[18:09:36] <TheCycoONE> ah ok. I hoped he'd be smarter than that
[18:09:38] <Marzo> And it seems quite likely that he will
[18:09:47] <Dominus> reminds of that Foody/allfayed guy who badmouthed Exult Studio all the time
[18:12:23] <Marzo> I was thinking of that too
[18:14:41] <TheCycoONE> Marzo: did that shared-ptr idea end up being fruitfull?
[18:14:52] <Marzo> I never had time to work much on it
[18:15:32] <TheCycoONE> the life I guess
[18:18:40] <Marzo> Reply posted, topic frozen
[18:19:14] <Marzo> (frozen because he apparently gave up on the issue he was reporting before derailing his own thread)
[18:23:18] <Dominus> good. at least he will learn something from our code :)
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[21:45:37] <Dominus> now I can't stand any of our scalers except the br, hq, point and opengl...
[21:50:52] <Dominus> wjp or Colourless why the many #if 0 in cheat_screen.cc?
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[22:23:50] <Dominus> (I guess all of those are not implemented :))
[22:24:28] <Dominus> anyway, simple patch to make the cheat screen useable for non standard US keyboard, http://pastebin.com/SupMG0n8
[22:31:08] <sh4rm4> target and teleport both use T ?
[22:31:56] <Dominus> no target used T, now uses z
[22:32:15] <sh4rm4> i mean in the ifdef'd area
[22:32:27] <sh4rm4> if someone uncomments it, it will conflict
[22:32:59] <Dominus> in the diff, where is target still T?
[22:33:28] <sh4rm4> oh, sorry :)
[22:33:35] <Dominus> :)
[22:33:36] <sh4rm4> mixed - and + lines
[22:36:30] <Dominus> better safe than sorry
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