#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 9 Mar 2003 (GMT)

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[00:45:33] <RonC> hi
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[00:47:43] <RonC> hi
[00:47:51] <armav> who, me?
[00:48:00] <RonC> yeah! you :P
[00:48:07] <armav> hi!
[00:48:42] <RonC> I'm only joking... Is there anyone around now who could anwser a question about ES?
[00:52:54] <armav> i can't help you with es, sorry
[00:54:02] <RonC> hmmm, there's not very much information on NPC's and Exult
[01:02:19] <RonC> Whenever I set an NPC's usecode, it goes back to something else after I save and restart.
[01:02:26] <RonC> It's really getting to me.
[01:02:45] <armav> have you submitted a bug report?
[01:02:54] <RonC> I'm not sure it's a bug.
[01:02:59] <RonC> It resets to 0x48b
[01:03:12] <RonC> I don't recall doing anything differently from older versions.
[01:03:30] <RonC> Yet again, I might be wrong.
[01:04:03] <RonC> There's just not enough documentation for me to know if it is a bug or not....
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[01:53:25] <RonC> hmmm
[01:53:31] <RonC> how can I prevent timeouts?
[01:54:15] <RonC> oh, I remember...
[01:55:34] <RonC> goodnight
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[03:24:24] <ShadwChsr> hey :)
[03:30:18] <ShadwChsr> everyone sleepin ? :)
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[11:41:41] <wjp> hi
[11:44:26] <DarkeZzz> Hiya.
[11:45:10] <wjp> IRCing in your sleep again, I see? :-)
[11:45:44] <DarkeZzz> Of course!
[11:47:21] * DarkeZzz often gets the feeling he squeeses most of his pentagram coding in whilst he's half asleep, so why not irc when he's completely asleep? *grin*
[11:47:54] <wjp> hm, forum dead?
[11:48:29] <DarkeZzz> It appears to still be up for me, at least it was when I refreshed it just then, otherwise it's just really, really quiet.
[11:48:40] <wjp> hm, connection issues somewhere, then
[11:48:55] <wjp> I get a connection timeout to both SF and /.
[11:49:09] <DarkeZzz> Looks like it.
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[13:32:21] <Fingolfin> hi
[13:35:00] <wjp> hi
[13:41:15] <DarkeZzz> Hi.
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[13:58:36] <Fingolfin> interesting some guy on the forum claims the OS X version now works for him... no idea how, I posted a reply, asking him for details
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[14:13:02] <wjp> Fingolfin: interesting... I wonder how, too
[14:13:05] <wjp> hi armav
[14:13:26] <Fingolfin> wjp: maybe he's using STLport or something...
[14:13:38] * Fingolfin compiles head exult CVS and tests it, just to be sure
[14:13:47] <Fingolfin> but last I tried, a few days ago, it still had the same problems
[14:15:14] <Fingolfin> hm
[14:15:15] <Fingolfin> gamedat.cc: In member function `bool Game_window::restore_gamedat_zip(const
[14:15:15] <Fingolfin> char*)':
[14:15:15] <Fingolfin> gamedat.cc:934: `u7remove' undeclared (first use this function)
[14:15:33] <Fingolfin> weird, maybe I have local mods
[14:15:56] <wjp> it's called U7remove
[14:16:06] <Fingolfin> ah
[14:16:14] <Fingolfin> well this is head CVS and I have no local mods...
[14:16:17] <Fingolfin> so why does it compile elsewhere?
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[14:16:28] <wjp> it probably doesn't :-)
[14:16:33] <Fingolfin> lol
[14:16:34] <Fingolfin> ok
[14:16:39] <wjp> run a cvs blame :-)
[14:16:52] <Fingolfin> it's from jeff's last commit
[14:17:00] <Fingolfin> 7 hours ago
[14:17:12] <Fingolfin> I guess this was a typo and he forgot to recompile or so
[14:21:01] <Fingolfin> hummm
[14:21:20] <Fingolfin> ouch
[14:21:25] <Fingolfin> seems my SDL from CVS is broken
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[14:58:31] <DarkeZzz> For those who have done Tech Support: http://chroniclesofgeorge.nanc.com/ Thankfully I've never encountered someone so clueless on the same side of the desk. *grin*
[14:59:54] <wjp> :-)
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[15:06:16] <DarkeZzz> I'd type a few of my favourites in here, but when I try to type them my fingers refuse to copy their gramatical, spelling and formatting errors, so they sound rather more clear and coherent then they should.
[15:06:42] <wjp> they're really painful to read :-)
[15:07:11] <armav> ?
[15:07:18] <wjp> <DarkeZzz> For those who have done Tech Support: http://chroniclesofgeorge.nanc.com/ Thankfully I've never encountered someone so clueless on the same side of the desk. *grin*
[15:08:59] <DarkeZzz> "everytime she is on the phone and somebody else calls they get a busy signal" <- Yay! It's spelling and grammar is actually adequate! Pity it's... err... working as it should though. *grin*
[15:09:47] <wjp> isn't that expected behaviour for a phone?
[15:09:55] <DarkeZzz> Yes. Yes it is. *grin*
[15:10:14] <DarkeZzz> The comment associated with it was: "Stuff That's Supposed to Happen, Part 1: You Only Get One Phone Line"
[15:11:00] <armav> DarkeZzz: does the exult bug tracker sometimes get bug reports like that?
[15:11:49] <DarkeZzz> armav: Thankfully no. I do however work at a helpdesk, and so far have seen very few that have come close, but nothing has horrible as these. *grin*
[15:13:57] <DarkeZzz> "said she use to have an orgasmic keyboard and would like to know if she could have it back" Umm... right!
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[16:10:52] <RonC> hi
[16:11:02] <wjp> hi
[16:11:50] <RonC> I have a question about ES, anyone around today that can anwser it?
[16:11:59] <wjp> possibly :-)
[16:12:16] <RonC> Ok, well, i'll just ask :)
[16:12:22] <wjp> although Jeff is probably the one you want to talk to about ES-related thing
[16:13:13] <RonC> I have no idea when he's around.
[16:13:30] <RonC> Perhaps I should just write an email...
[16:13:41] <RonC> Yeah, i'll just do that :)
[16:14:14] <wjp> Jeff doesn't come here on IRC often
[16:14:26] <wjp> he reads the mailing list and the forum, though
[16:14:59] <RonC> I hear the mailing list was getting spammed lately, so maybe i'll just try the forum.
[16:15:22] <RonC> Well, anyway, i'll say it here first.
[16:16:34] <RonC> I keep assigning an NPC a usecode hex value... but it disappears everytime I save and restart exult.
[16:17:43] <RonC> Oh, that and the face keeps disappearing too.
[16:18:01] <RonC> I don't recall this happening when I worked with exult studio a couple months ago.
[16:19:23] <RonC> It always resets to 0x48b...
[16:19:31] <wjp> strange
[16:20:26] <RonC> The name, attributes, schedule, and shape all remain.
[16:21:59] <RonC> everything else seems to work fine and dandy :P
[16:23:47] <wjp> sounds like something for Jeff :-)
[16:24:39] <RonC> I wish there was some documentation, so I could know for sure if i'm just not doing something right....
[16:25:04] <wjp> if it only saves part of the settings for an NPC, something is probably broken :-)
[16:25:31] <RonC> aw :(
[16:25:33] <wjp> in fact, I'm pretty sure we had this bug before a long time ago
[16:26:04] <wjp> I'd search the forum for it, but SF is having some connectivity issues so I can't get to the forum
[16:27:31] <RonC> I understand how that goes...
[16:27:50] <RonC> I can for some reason.
[16:28:45] <wjp> yeah, it's very random
[16:34:39] <RonC> this mock up program is cool
[16:34:53] <RonC> just got to see how well it works :)
[16:38:49] <RonC> well, it works alright :)
[16:40:22] <RonC> BTW, I don't know if this is of any importance, but I'm using ES on Win XP Pro
[16:40:50] <RonC> I'm reading that older NT's don't work...
[16:42:28] <wjp> I haven't really kept up with the status of ES on the various windows'
[16:42:33] <wjp> way too confusing :-)
[16:43:46] <RonC> "So currently Exult Studio only works well on XP."
[16:43:54] <RonC> 5-31-02
[16:44:48] <RonC> Yeah, it always works ok on linux.
[16:45:40] <RonC> It's just I don't really want to download the source from CVS then compile it.
[16:46:01] <wjp> on linux?
[16:46:05] <wjp> that's really quite painless
[16:49:19] <RonC> maybe i'll try it sometime.
[16:49:59] <RonC> I think i'm going to go buy linux at the store.
[16:50:09] <RonC> I'm tired of downloading 800mb ISO images...
[16:54:26] <RonC> And, I could never give up photoshop...
[17:01:31] <RonC> I don't see any anwsers.
[17:01:42] <RonC> I just took a looks through alot of threads.
[17:09:04] <RonC> I'm trying to think of a little addon I could make for U7.
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[20:34:56] <Fingolfin> pentagram really is good for stress testing Apple's GCC... now it triggers an internal compiler error in graphics/SoftRenderSurface.cpp
[20:35:48] <Fingolfin> on to file the next bug report =)
[20:37:53] <wjp> hehe :-)
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[20:48:43] <wjp> time to go; bye
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