#exult@irc.freenode.net logs for 9 Sep 2008 (GMT)

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[00:01:14] <Kirben> The CVS mailing mail seems to be delaying or skipping various commits.
[00:01:45] <Kirben> As I'm noticing many more files are updating than I get emails for.
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[00:04:03] <Marzo> It is the former (delaying until moderator approval)
[00:04:40] <Marzo> The messages are more likely to trigger that problem now since SVN groups all changes of a given commit into a single message
[00:09:24] <Kirben> Can't be maximum message size be increased or set to unlimited?
[00:10:11] <Marzo> If anyone can do that, it is most likely Jeff and wjp
[00:10:24] <Marzo> I will check SF docs to see if it is even possible
[00:14:31] <Kirben> Judging by other project, there is an option:
[00:14:32] <Kirben> Maximum length in kilobytes (KB) of a message body. Use 0 for no limit.
[00:16:04] <FlynO> If I got the latest SVN snapshot compiling on GCC 4.3.2 would you guys be interested in the diff?
[00:16:17] <Marzo> Yep
[00:16:29] <FlynO> Couple of mins then.
[00:16:51] <Marzo> Out of curiosity, how similar it is to ettin's patch?
[00:18:11] <FlynO> At a glance, I'd say almost identical.
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[00:39:13] <Marzo> Well, SF documentation has been sparse
[00:39:49] <Marzo> But poking around, I can see no controls for adjusting maximum message size; problably only a project admin (such as wjp and Jeff) can do it
[00:45:53] <Kirben> Yes, it is part of mailman options, need to login to mailing list interface as admin.
[00:46:59] <FlynO> Ok then.
[00:47:05] <FlynO> Who wants to see the patch?
[00:47:15] <Marzo> Let me see it
[00:47:19] <FlynO> email?
[00:47:33] <Marzo> marzo AT yahoo DOT com
[00:48:36] <FlynO> sent
[00:49:05] <Marzo> Ark
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[00:49:13] <FlynO> Ark?
[00:49:22] <Marzo> Send again: my actual e-mail is marzojr, not marzo
[00:49:29] <FlynO> heh
[00:49:31] <FlynO> one sec
[00:50:33] <FlynO> Sent again
[00:50:52] <Marzo> Got it
[00:50:59] <FlynO> Good
[00:52:53] <FlynO> Um, silly question, but do you know where the default config file is supposed to reside?
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[00:53:45] <Marzo> You mean exult.cfg? It is in the docs at the website
[00:53:57] <Marzo> (in Linux, it is in ~/.exult.cfg)
[00:54:12] <FlynO> :-) Ok, thanks.
[01:03:19] <Marzo> You were a bit overzealous (splitshp.cc ended up with two "#include <cstdlib>"s)
[01:04:02] <Marzo> So did cmanip.cc
[01:04:45] <Marzo> Hm. Or maybe that is the result of me chaining patches
[01:06:16] <FlynO> Lemme check
[01:07:10] <FlynO> I don't see it on my end.
[01:07:29] <FlynO> Sounds like you were possibly chaining patches.
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[01:16:43] <Marzo> Indeed, your patch was nearly identical to ettin's
[01:17:00] <Marzo> The differences were in the positions of the includes
[01:17:28] <FlynO> Yup, not much difference, except that even after I fixed the paths it didn't work for some reason.
[01:17:39] <FlynO> Well, now you have both.
[01:17:42] <Marzo> Odd
[01:17:56] <Marzo> And already applied and commited one of them :-)
[01:18:25] <FlynO> So SVN is fixed now?
[01:18:57] <Marzo> Should be
[01:19:31] <FlynO> Good. That was annoying as hell, I've had problems compiling Exult for a long time now.
[01:20:21] <Marzo> The problem was that no one in the team actually used GCC 4.3
[01:20:39] <Marzo> So we had no way to confirm that the patch ettin submitted worked
[01:20:51] <Marzo> (in computers other than his, I mean)
[01:20:59] <FlynO> Ah, I see.
[01:21:12] <FlynO> Well, as long as that is fixed now.
[01:21:59] <Marzo> Well, enjoy your brand new snapshot :-)
[01:22:17] <Marzo> And please remember to submit any bugs to the bug tracker
[01:22:37] <FlynO> Thanks, no problem.
[01:22:55] <FlynO> Damn its late (or early?)
[01:23:10] <Marzo> Depends on where you live :-)
[01:23:27] <FlynO> Haifa, Israel.
[01:23:30] <Marzo> (10:23PM here)
[01:23:39] <FlynO> 4:24 AM
[01:23:41] <Marzo> (Brasil)
[01:23:55] <FlynO> Pretty far away ;-)
[01:24:02] <Marzo> So you see, it is late and early :-)
[01:24:04] <Marzo> Indeed
[01:25:17] <FlynO> That's odd
[01:25:36] <FlynO> In the terminal output it gives me : Serpent Isle :
[01:25:36] <FlynO> not found (<SERPENTISLE_STATIC>/)
[01:25:36] <FlynO> Silver Seed : found
[01:25:37] <Marzo> A bug already? :-)
[01:25:47] <FlynO> Even though it did detect SI and its working
[01:25:51] <FlynO> Hehe
[01:25:52] <Marzo> The former refers to plain SI
[01:26:23] <Marzo> Exult now locates and separatelly manages plain U7, FoV, plain SI and SS
[01:26:34] <FlynO> Oh, I see.
[01:27:17] <Marzo> It is mainly to help me debug stuff that is different between SI and SS
[01:27:42] <Marzo> Or should I say, "was"
[01:27:53] <FlynO> All finished debugging then? ;-)
[01:28:25] <Marzo> On the contrary :-) The "was" is that it is not only for debugging anymore
[01:28:33] <FlynO> Now, if a mod is installed and the "show mods" option becomes available, to actually start the mod would I have to click on that or on the normal title?
[01:28:36] <Marzo> (for *me* debugging anymore)
[01:28:48] <Marzo> On the 'show mods'
[01:29:02] <Marzo> Clicking the normal title starts the normal game
[01:29:35] <FlynO> Shouldn't the SI Fixes have an extra logo?
[01:30:11] <Marzo> It should have, yes
[01:30:23] <Marzo> (it should appear on the main screen)
[01:30:47] <FlynO> Hmm
[01:30:52] <FlynO> Lemme see if I did something wrong
[01:31:17] <FlynO> Doesn't look like it
[01:31:20] <FlynO> No logo
[01:32:05] <Marzo> Add an entry for SI in exult.cfg pointing to the mods directory you dumped IS Fixed in
[01:32:43] <Marzo> (a.k.a. the directory with sifixes.cfg and sifixes directory)
[01:33:19] <Marzo> (hold a bit -- looking at what the string should be)
[01:33:27] <FlynO> One sec
[01:34:07] <FlynO> I think I see
[01:34:07] <FlynO> Patch : /home/adam/bin/Serpent Isle//patch
[01:34:12] <FlynO> Too many //
[01:34:30] <Marzo> here, add something like this to SI's entry in exult.cfg:
[01:34:45] <Marzo> <mods>path/to/folder</mods>
[01:35:08] <Marzo> here, path/to/folder is the directory I mentioned above
[01:35:30] <FlynO> Yeah, I know, it looks like its looking in the right place and not finding anything
[01:35:35] <FlynO> But lemme try that
[01:36:39] <FlynO> Still no logo
[01:37:26] <Marzo> send me your exult.cfg, path where sifixes.cfg is located and the first 20 lines of stdout and stderr
[01:37:38] <FlynO> One sec
[01:37:41] <Marzo> I will use these to figure out what is going wrong
[01:37:49] <Marzo> (or try to...)
[01:38:31] <Marzo> (out of curiosity, is SI Fixes showing under the list of mods when you click 'show mods'?)
[01:39:10] <FlynO> Yeah it is
[01:39:42] <FlynO> Would you happen to remember where stdout and stderr live on a Linux system?
[01:40:01] <Marzo> in a console, type this:
[01:40:11] <Marzo> exult 1> stdout.txt 2> stderr.txt
[01:40:26] <Marzo> (otherwise, it is discarded)
[01:43:18] <FlynO> Sorry for the flood
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[01:44:21] <Marzo> I got only part of the exult.cfg; send it to my e-mail, it will be easier
[01:44:28] <Flyn1> Ok
[01:45:36] <Flyn1> sent
[01:49:31] <Marzo> Just to remove this bit out of the equation: can you try moving SI's data to a path without spaces? For example, rename '/home/adam/bin/Serpent Isle' to '/home/adam/bin/SerpentIsle' and adjust exult.cfg accordingly
[01:49:43] <Flyn1> Sure
[01:50:34] <Flyn1> Patch : /home/adam/bin/SerpentIsle/mods/sifixes/patch
[01:50:43] <Flyn1> Still not working.
[01:50:56] <Flyn1> Want me to remove the upper case letters?
[01:51:04] <Marzo> Those shouldn't matter
[01:51:22] <Marzo> Hm
[01:51:47] <Flyn1> Maybe the patch broke something?
[01:51:53] <Marzo> Tell me where is sifixes.cfg
[01:52:20] <Flyn1> adam@adam-desktop:~/bin/SerpentIsle/mods$ ls -R
[01:52:20] <Flyn1> .:
[01:52:20] <Flyn1> sifixes sifixes.cfg
[01:52:20] <Flyn1> ./sifixes:
[01:52:20] <Flyn1> License.txt patch Readme.txt
[01:52:20] <Flyn1> ./sifixes/patch:
[01:52:22] <Marzo> (just remembered that SIFixes calls its 'patch' dir 'data')
[01:52:22] <Flyn1> initgame.dat usecode
[01:52:24] <Flyn1> adam@adam-desktop:~/bin/SerpentIsle/mods$
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[01:53:21] <Marzo> How recent is the version of SIFIxes?
[01:53:38] <FlynO> sifixes-0.15.04.zip
[01:53:52] <FlynO> I suppose that is the latest?
[01:54:14] <Marzo> latest is 0.15.07
[01:54:23] <FlynO> I think its probably going to be something really stupid I missed because I was tired.
[01:54:30] <FlynO> Lemme grab that one and check.
[01:54:34] <Marzo> Title screen was added in 0.15.05
[01:54:43] <FlynO> Doh
[01:54:51] <FlynO> Sorry about that then.
[01:54:52] <Marzo> Have you compiled the tools?
[01:55:20] <FlynO> I'm not sure...
[01:55:46] <FlynO> Do you have the link for the download handy?
[01:56:02] <Marzo> in your exult source dir, cd to tools and try running expack
[01:56:16] <Marzo> As a matter of fact, yes; hold a sec
[01:56:26] <Marzo> (it *is* easier)
[01:56:35] <Marzo> http://lfs.lfhost.com/seventowers/files/sifixes.zip
[01:57:01] <Marzo> (I *was* going to explain how to build it from SVN)
[01:57:47] <FlynO> No real need for that, I think.
[01:58:10] <FlynO> Yup, that was it.
[01:58:19] <FlynO> Excellent, thank you very much.
[01:58:20] <Marzo> (I also think that it was around 0.15.05 that I renamed the 'patch' dir to 'data' dir to match Keyring)
[01:58:34] <Marzo> NP
[01:58:37] <Marzo> Enjoy
[01:58:48] <FlynO> I think I'm off to sleep
[01:58:57] <FlynO> Thank for everything.
[01:59:01] <FlynO> See you around.
[01:59:04] <Marzo> Good... morning, I guess :-p
[01:59:11] * FlynO yawns and waves.
[01:59:15] <FlynO> Good night ;-)
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[01:59:23] <Marzo> Good night
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