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[12:06:34] <otwieracz> Hello.
[12:06:38] <fuzzie> hi
[12:06:56] <otwieracz> On GemRB BG1 works on widescreen?
[12:07:21] <fuzzie> if you use the widescreen mod, which you can also use with the original.
[12:07:37] <otwieracz> Hmm.
[12:07:47] <otwieracz> I set 1600x900 in gemrb.cfg
[12:08:01] <otwieracz> But I have „layered” view.
[12:08:23] <otwieracz> Right bar with characters is under game screen.
[12:08:27] <fuzzie> but the widescreen mod is necessary, otherwise the game UI elements have the wrong sizes.
[12:08:53] <otwieracz> I can apply widescreen mod on linux, without wine?
[12:09:01] <otwieracz> (and it works for any language?)
[12:09:47] <fuzzie> you can, but if you are not on x86 then it is complicated to do.
[12:10:08] <otwieracz> I'm on x86.
[12:10:19] <fuzzie> see http://www.gibberlings3.net/readmes/readme-widescreen.html
[12:10:48] <fuzzie> ('weidu' is the standard modding tool for Infinity Engine games.)
[12:11:10] <otwieracz> I already tried to apply this patch on Windows, but I hav to choose language which i want to use.
[12:11:44] <otwieracz> That's true?
[12:11:47] <fuzzie> As far as I know, the language is only used for the mod installer itself.
[12:11:51] <fuzzie> I will check.
[12:12:22] <otwieracz> I will be thankfull.
[12:13:06] <fuzzie> Yes, the language is only used for the installation.
[12:14:26] <otwieracz> Thanks
[12:14:34] <otwieracz> Ok, I have dinner.
[12:14:44] <otwieracz> I will be back in few minutes.
[12:17:08] <Enverex> Is there a bug-tracker for GemRB? Just curious to see if everything I've spotted is listed
[12:18:45] <fuzzie> There is the huge 'todo' list on the wiki, and a proper bug-tracker on sourceforge.
[12:19:27] <Enverex> Well the source-forge page appears to be the bug-tracker...
[12:19:33] <fuzzie> Anything which needs more than a line of explanation should probably go in the bug tracker.
[12:19:45] <fuzzie> But it is not complete, since we have the huge list of todo items on the wiki too.
[12:20:31] <Enverex> hrm, sounds like it would be a good idea to merge them, seems odd having 2 places
[12:21:05] <otwieracz> fuzzie: Fatal error: exception Not_found
[12:21:20] <otwieracz> I have that after tolower
[12:22:40] <fuzzie> Put the log into pastebin.com, perhaps?
[12:22:52] <fuzzie> But if you could make it work on Windows, you might find it easier to do it that way.
[12:24:51] <fuzzie> Enverex: I would think it is a good idea to have everything on the bug tracker, but it is probably a lot of work to do so.
[12:27:11] <fuzzie> And we are not short of bugs to fix. :)
[12:27:34] <fuzzie> The quicksave/autosave save slots one is something I'd forgotten about.
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[12:30:07] <Enverex> fuzzie, Are you guys working on dev again then? I'd heard it had stalled for a bit
[12:31:49] <lynxlynxlynx> apart from last year, it has always been periodical
[12:32:08] <fuzzie> I am mostly free this week, so I hope to find some time.
[12:33:24] <fuzzie> The GemRB development thread on the Maemo forums is alive again, I noticed.
[12:33:51] <otwieracz> fuzzie: I copied BG1 from Windows drive and that's problem
[12:34:12] <otwieracz> http://pastie.org/879523
[12:34:47] <otwieracz> It want's something from Wine and path, where I installed it under Windows (read(3, "[Alias]\r\nHD0:=D:\\gry\\Baldur's Ga"..., 4096) = 1014)
[12:35:52] <fuzzie> I don't think you need the linux.ini for the widescreen mod.
[12:36:48] <otwieracz> Ok, I have „widescreen” directory in bg directory.
[12:37:24] <fuzzie> I just run 'weidu widescreen.tp2'.
[12:38:14] <otwieracz> It is here: baldursgatedirectory/widescreen/1~
[12:38:21] <otwieracz> s/1~//
[12:38:51] <otwieracz> I must have .tp2 in BG1 root?
[12:39:01] <fuzzie> Yes, and then the 'widescreen' directory in BG1 root.
[12:39:20] <fuzzie> I don't know how this is *supposed* to work, the instructions suggest using weinstall.
[12:39:35] <otwieracz> For GemRB?
[12:39:49] <fuzzie> It's the same for the original engine and gemrb.
[12:40:09] <otwieracz> Your game is not currently supported, sorry.
[12:40:09] <otwieracz> Only ToB (eventually with Tutu), TotSC, IWD2 and HoW currently work.
[12:40:37] <fuzzie> Ah, you don't have the expansion?
[12:40:44] <otwieracz> No.
[12:41:08] <otwieracz> I must have it?
[12:42:37] <otwieracz> Hm?
[12:42:52] <fuzzie> You can probably make it work with gemrb by changing the widescreen/lib/game_config.tpa script to check for ~BG1~ and not ~TotSC~, but I do not think anyone has ever tried it, so it might not work.
[12:45:14] <otwieracz> Enter your X coordinate. It should be a number, >= 64
[12:45:17] <otwieracz> Hm?
[12:45:39] <fuzzie> Your X width. So, 1600 for what you are trying.
[12:45:45] <otwieracz> Ah.
[12:52:24] <otwieracz> I think that this will not work.
[12:55:27] <otwieracz> Still patching…
[13:02:21] <fuzzie> It must modify all of the user interface files.
[13:03:18] <otwieracz> And still working.
[13:03:50] <otwieracz> Error.
[13:04:36] <lynxlynxlynx> bg1 was at fixed resolution, right?
[13:04:54] <lynxlynxlynx> i think it needs totsc for the border mos files, which it modifies as needed
[13:06:27] <otwieracz> http://pastie.org/879550
[13:07:00] <lynxlynxlynx> yeah, that's the 1024 resource
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[13:07:33] <fuzzie> Oh, no.
[13:07:37] <fuzzie> That is the stupid bug we didn't patch.
[13:08:03] <fuzzie> You have to change 'guiw10.chu' to 'guiworld.chu' at the end of widescreen/core.tpa.
[13:08:15] <fuzzie> no?
[13:09:11] <fuzzie> Oh, it's 'guiw.chu' for bg1, perhaps.
[13:09:20] <fuzzie> But lynxlynxlynx would know better than me.
[13:09:40] <lynxlynxlynx> it was guiw in totsc
[13:09:54] <fuzzie> If weidu got that far, it must be guiw in bg1, too.
[13:10:02] <lynxlynxlynx> however such a fix didn't help you
[13:10:26] <fuzzie> In PST it is 'guiworld', to complicate things.
[13:10:46] <lynxlynxlynx> yes, but it's consistent elsewhere and the mod defines these anyway
[13:10:48] <otwieracz> So, „guiw.chu”?
[13:11:04] <fuzzie> lynxlynxlynx: the widescreen mod tries to copy 'guiw10.chu' in all cases, though.
[13:11:23] <lynxlynxlynx> not in our versions
[13:11:46] <fuzzie> well, unless git changed in the last few days :)
[13:12:00] <lynxlynxlynx> nope
[13:12:04] <fuzzie> http://pastebin.com/SrgrFJHK does work for PS:T.
[13:12:11] <fuzzie> I think I pasted that in here the other day.
[13:12:28] <fuzzie> I don't know how to extent that to check for TotSC.
[13:12:35] <fuzzie> otwieracz: I would try that.
[13:12:41] <otwieracz> I'm trying.
[13:12:57] <lynxlynxlynx> http://pastebin.com/VhwwkWFR <-- this is the original
[13:13:37] <fuzzie> I don't see why that would fail.
[13:13:39] <lynxlynxlynx> i'll look into the syntax again
[13:13:54] <fuzzie> I did say it didn't work?
[13:14:02] <lynxlynxlynx> yes
[13:14:08] <fuzzie> That is the one I tried.
[13:14:31] <lynxlynxlynx> uh oh, so is there an inconsistency or not?
[13:14:39] <fuzzie> I mean, that is the one I tried and it didn't work :)
[13:14:55] <fuzzie> I have it in the directory as 'lynx_patch_doesntwork'.
[13:14:57] <lynxlynxlynx> ok :)
[13:15:03] <lynxlynxlynx> :P
[13:15:29] <fuzzie> Sorry, it was a long time ago.
[13:18:31] <fuzzie> Perhaps the STRING_COMPARE check is inverted?
[13:18:47] <fuzzie> It is taking that first path only if it *isn't* 'lib'.
[13:19:29] <lynxlynxlynx> i was just looking at STRING_EQUAL
[13:20:00] <lynxlynxlynx> maybe i didn't try this version with bg2, which should fail
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[13:21:09] <lynxlynxlynx> trying with iwd2
[13:21:29] <Gekz> lol
[13:21:30] <Gekz> hi
[13:21:34] <fuzzie> hi Gekz :)
[13:21:34] <lynxlynxlynx> bork :)
[13:21:45] <Enverex> Anything you guys need tested or checked out?
[13:21:49] <lynxlynxlynx> ERROR: Failure("resource [%chu%.chu] not found for 'COPY'") <-- didn't even exapns
[13:21:51] <lynxlynxlynx> expand
[13:22:04] <Gekz> lol
[13:22:06] <Gekz> hi
[13:22:15] <fuzzie> %chu% is only set for libsmall, I guess.
[13:22:15] <Gekz> I have to do java in uni fuzzie
[13:22:16] <Gekz> :<
[13:22:22] <Gekz> I feel more retarded now than before
[13:22:25] <Gekz> and I learnt VB once
[13:22:35] <lynxlynxlynx> yes
[13:22:52] <fuzzie> are you using BlueJ or Greenfoot, Gekz?
[13:23:05] <Gekz> haha
[13:23:06] <Gekz> BlueJ
[13:23:09] <Gekz> well, we're meant to be
[13:23:11] <Gekz> I'm using vim
[13:23:16] <Gekz> and he was like OHSHIT YOU'REUSINGVIM
[13:23:19] <Gekz> SKILLZ
[13:23:24] <fuzzie> well then, it could be worse :)
[13:23:28] <Gekz> he then told me about how he uses Colemak
[13:23:32] <Gekz> and I told him I dont care, can I leave now
[13:23:37] <Gekz> >_>
[13:23:45] <Gekz> got into an argument with a guy about C++ vs Java
[13:23:55] <Gekz> turns out he wrote half the servers in the uni, and they're all java
[13:23:57] <Gekz> haha
[13:24:09] <Gekz> he refuses to accept that compiled code is faster than JIT compiled code
[13:24:19] <Gekz> he was saying that with applications it's irrelevant
[13:24:24] <Gekz> I said a laggy GUI is a shitty gui
[13:24:28] <Gekz> and he called me a fanboy haha
[13:24:34] <Gekz> I said, a fanboy of what?
[13:24:39] <lynxlynxlynx> http://pastebin.com/37SegHEP <-- this works for me
[13:24:49] <Gekz> he wasn't sure, as I hadnt argued for any particular language, just compiled languages in general
[13:24:55] <fuzzie> The standard programming language here is C++, so I just quietly didn't turn up to anything and in return the lecturer gave me a 98% mark. Victory for everyone.
[13:24:56] <Gekz> so he just randomly guessed C++ xD
[13:24:57] <otwieracz> SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED for GemRB
[13:25:23] <Gekz> fuzzie: it's looking that way for me in Java
[13:25:39] <lynxlynxlynx> otwieracz: with that patch?
[13:25:59] <Gekz> fuzzie: I'm actually failing remedial mathematics >_>
[13:26:04] <Gekz> which makes me feel quite retarded
[13:26:12] <lynxlynxlynx> let's see if it works for torment
[13:26:30] <Gekz> fuzzie: why do they make us do maths by hand when we have computers that we can make do it for us
[13:26:36] <fuzzie> lynxlynxlynx: I'm confused, isn't that the same patch?
[13:26:48] <Gekz> I understand the concepts involved, I just cant see the right answer half the time, and there's no procedure to find the answer sometimes :/
[13:27:08] <lynxlynxlynx> huh
[13:27:13] <lynxlynxlynx> STRING_EQUAL
[13:27:22] <otwieracz> lynxlynxlynx: yes
[13:27:27] <otwieracz> no.
[13:27:29] <fuzzie> Gekz: well, i am a bad person to ask that :)
[13:27:41] <fuzzie> otwieracz: does it work in gemrb, though?
[13:27:51] <otwieracz> Not fully.
[13:28:01] <otwieracz> Menu looks same.
[13:28:08] <lynxlynxlynx> ah, i tried to ammend the commit while not being in the repo, so the diff wasn't full
[13:28:14] <otwieracz> Game window better, but many bugs.
[13:28:20] <otwieracz> inventory window is bugged.
[13:30:32] <otwieracz> How to run fullscreen with gemrb?
[13:30:53] <otwieracz> Ah, I see.
[13:31:51] <otwieracz> Uh, doesn't work.
[13:31:56] <lynxlynxlynx> ok, that definitely works for howless iwd
[13:32:18] <lynxlynxlynx> for pst, weidu can't see chitin -.-
[13:32:28] <fuzzie> otwieracz: with Fullscreen=1, or using alt-enter?
[13:32:37] <fuzzie> lynxlynxlynx: not lower-cased?
[13:32:56] <lynxlynxlynx> yep
[13:34:17] <fuzzie> weidu just gives me a headache :(
[13:34:30] <lynxlynxlynx> yeah, it's tolower fails too :)
[13:34:48] <lynxlynxlynx> but it's easy to fix it otherwise
[13:36:02] <lynxlynxlynx> bleh, don't have a full install aparently
[13:37:34] <Gekz> stab it in the faec
[13:39:08] <lynxlynxlynx> i'll dig the cds out
[13:41:13] <Lightkey> Gekz: you are at the uni, at 17?
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[13:41:26] <Gekz> Lightkey: I am.
[13:41:31] <Gekz> and I turn 18 on thursday
[13:41:31] <Gekz> lol
[13:42:41] <fuzzie> you are balancing out us old people :)
[13:43:31] <Gekz> haha
[13:43:41] <lynxlynxlynx> old people? :P
[13:43:51] <Gekz> ye
[13:43:54] <Gekz> post-20s
[13:43:59] <Lightkey> that is three years before the usual time you can go to the uni here
[13:45:33] <Gekz> lol I see.
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[13:48:34] <Lightkey> and it's all Java too, here /o\
[13:48:54] <Gekz> sad face
[13:48:58] <Gekz> do you cry?
[13:49:09] <Gekz> do you sit in various french cafes completing verbose java assignments
[13:49:20] <Gekz> wishing that Sun would just die, then realise they were in fact murdered brutally by Oracle
[13:49:28] <Gekz> then feel at ease slightly?
[13:49:55] <Lightkey> no, that is arms above the head
[13:50:15] <Gekz> I know it's arms above the head
[13:50:20] <Lightkey> and I am not at the uni, I do not have Abitur
[13:50:21] <Gekz> this had nothing to do with your arm holding
[13:50:22] <Gekz> lolol
[13:50:29] <Gekz> oh
[13:50:39] <Gekz> you did not go in the Gymnasium?
[13:54:12] <Lightkey> well, I was at a half-private school anyway where all degrees are available but I took the middle one (Mittlere Reife), usually taken at the Realschule
[13:55:48] <Lightkey> except there you still had to go to school as long as the ones doing Abitur, so two years wasted
[13:55:58] <Gekz> sounds like it
[13:56:12] <Gekz> why did you do that
[13:56:12] <Gekz> lol
[13:56:41] <Lightkey> not my choice
[13:56:51] <Lightkey> have to look for the pasta
[13:57:03] <lynxlynxlynx> arg
[14:11:21] <Lightkey> ja?
[14:12:51] <lynxlynxlynx> enjoy your pasta
[14:13:14] <Lightkey> I do
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[14:16:43] <lynxlynxlynx> SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED for GemRB
[14:16:57] <lynxlynxlynx> finally, had to wrestle with the data first
[14:18:10] <lynxlynxlynx> confirmed ingame
[14:18:27] <lynxlynxlynx> fuzzie: this works for both variants, so i'll push it and request integration
[14:18:46] <lynxlynxlynx> then maybe a new wm will be released this year >>
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[14:30:46] <fuzzie> lynxlynxlynx: thankyou :)
[14:31:38] <lynxlynxlynx> done
[14:31:53] <lynxlynxlynx> the commit is from October 07, 2009 :)
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[17:06:38] <otwieracz> Anyboody have ideas why I can't run any game in resolution lower than my desktop resolution?
[17:13:42] <lynxlynxlynx> what's that resolution?
[17:14:50] <otwieracz> Desktop: 1600x900
[17:15:22] <lynxlynxlynx> big enough
[17:15:24] <fuzzie> which graphics driver?
[17:15:31] <otwieracz> nvidia
[17:15:34] <lynxlynxlynx> what's the target resolution?
[17:15:49] <otwieracz> BG1, 640x480 (or anythin other)
[17:16:42] <lynxlynxlynx> how does "I can't run" manifest?
[17:19:50] <otwieracz> desktop takes 640x480 (for example) resolution, and I have black window with gemrb.
[17:20:07] <otwieracz> And nothing happens.
[17:21:44] <lynxlynxlynx> reminds me of wine
[17:22:07] <lynxlynxlynx> this is with fullscreen off?
[17:22:16] <otwieracz> fullscreen on.
[17:23:10] <otwieracz> With fullscreen off I have normal windows which works ok.
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[17:23:37] <fuzzie> This has been reported before, but only with drivers which didn't work at the low resolution. nvidia should be fine, I thought.
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[17:28:24] <otwieracz> So, what to do?
[17:29:47] <lynxlynxlynx> fuzzie: patch incorporated :)
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