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[00:01:00] <brada> so the only way to run that build is to manually install sdl at /usr/local/opt/sdl/lib/libSDL-1.2.0.dylib
[00:01:30] <brada> obut the download from sdl is a framework, not a plain dylib
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[05:25:59] <travis-ci> gemrb/gemrb#51 (master - d53ea30 : Brad Allred): The build was broken.
[05:25:59] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/gemrb/gemrb/compare/79efe9890e26...d53ea3009122
[05:25:59] <travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/gemrb/gemrb/builds/113042217
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[05:26:00] <Pepelka> Travis CI - Test and Deploy Your Code with Confidence
[05:26:01] <Pepelka> Comparing 79efe9890e26...d53ea3009122 · gemrb/gemrb · GitHub
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[09:03:19] <lynxlynxlynx> it just uses brew
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[17:07:23] <fireflame> hello
[17:07:55] <fireflame> i see gemrb has reached 0.8.4 version so how distant is the 1.0 version?
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[17:25:29] <lynxlynxlynx> fireflame: good question
[17:26:01] <lynxlynxlynx> we never really talked much about it, but I'm pretty sure 1.0 would mean all the games are very well playable and playable to the end
[17:26:43] <lynxlynxlynx> considering that, there is still a lot of work to do on pst and iwd2
[17:26:59] <lynxlynxlynx> sadly they're also the least researched and modded, so it's harder
[17:43:49] <fireflame> pst is a very good game
[17:44:11] <fireflame> iwd2 only played it once a,d found it average
[17:44:39] <lynxlynxlynx> i liked both stories
[17:45:38] <lynxlynxlynx> iwd2 has better gameplay and underlying system, but like its predecessors, a pretty classical dungeon crawl
[17:47:23] <fireflame> well i felt there were too many fights and i globally prefrred the spells of bg 2
[17:48:41] <fireflame> i was expecting you would have more problems with a game like bg2 since there are so many quests and all that
[17:49:11] <lynxlynxlynx> it's the most used and understood engine
[17:49:26] <fireflame> but then why iwd is going better?
[17:49:56] <lynxlynxlynx> we were talking about pst and iwd, not bg2
[17:50:06] <fireflame> what i mean is
[17:50:15] <fireflame> you have issues with iw2, but then why not with iwd
[17:50:20] <fireflame> the first
[17:50:41] <lynxlynxlynx> older engine
[17:50:56] <lynxlynxlynx> iwd2 uses a subset of 3ed rules, the rest 2nd ed
[17:51:16] <lynxlynxlynx> so a lot of the plumbing is very similar
[17:51:45] <lynxlynxlynx> iwd2 for example uses a completely different way to script enemy spellcasting and we still haven't figured it out completely
[17:53:18] <fireflame> i see even beamdog is scared by iwd2 and statedit would be nightmarish if they remade it
[17:54:17] <lynxlynxlynx> yes, they would almost have to start from scratch or rewrite large portions
[17:54:17] <fireflame> "Icewind Dale II implemented the 3rd Edition rules and has a completely different UI scheme. We're really not sure how deep those changes run," Oster explained. "The move to 3rd Edition rules would invalidate all the character classes and require a pretty thorough rework of the entire game to bring in the features from our Infinity Plus Engine. At minimum, nightmares abound."
[17:57:33] <fireflame> well maybe one day, some fan comes in and remakes entirely the game but using gemrb?Some games have been remake by fans on completely new negines
[17:57:42] <fireflame> like diablo being remade with starcraft 2 engine iirc
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[18:00:01] <lynxlynxlynx> it'd be better to create a new game
[18:00:14] <lynxlynxlynx> iwd2 already works in gemrb, there's no remaking neeeded
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[21:38:48] <Lightkey> http://scummvm.org/news/20160301/ waiting IMPATIENTLY for YOU!
[21:38:49] <Pepelka> ScummVM :: Home
[21:39:47] <fireflame> is that site dangerous
[21:39:52] <fireflame> name doesnt look reassuring
[21:41:29] <Lightkey> oh, no, it's not just scumm
[22:06:29] <wjp> guess we're not quite well-known enough yet :-)
[22:12:28] <fireflame> i may give atry one day, ihhave some free ggames gog gave people
[22:12:41] <fireflame> including beneath a steel sky, lure of a temptress,etc
[22:29:04] <lynxlynxlynx> congrats on the selection
[22:30:48] <Lightkey> one day it will be a name more famous than GemRB, one day..
[22:36:29] <lynxlynxlynx> LightSarcasm
[22:52:14] <lynxlynxlynx> wow, nice drop by fizzle :)
[22:56:54] <Lightkey> he dropped the mic?
[22:59:07] <lynxlynxlynx> actually there is some audio stuff in there too :P