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[02:28:23] <brada> traveler__: can you now provide me a better openal error log? we should be able to see the exact openal call that fails now
[02:30:07] <brada> apparently Seniorita had a stroke...
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[11:03:12] <traveler__> brada: you need to remind me which issue are we hunting now :) ?
[11:03:29] <traveler__> button 'overload'?
[11:06:34] <traveler__> hmmm
[11:06:52] <traveler__> nowe rest doesn't fire usual mve
[11:06:55] <traveler__> *now
[11:09:36] <traveler__> ok, there is mve alright
[11:09:43] <traveler__> but cannot reproduce that problem
[12:56:53] <traveler__> strange
[12:56:57] <traveler__> any changes recently?
[12:57:24] <traveler__> i mean i don;t see anything related in log
[12:57:42] <traveler__> apart from more logging, which i reported back then
[12:57:56] <traveler__> oh
[12:57:59] <traveler__> something new now
[12:59:26] <traveler__> ah it was 'add more error checking' from yesterday. so my 'cannot reproduce' was at dda45e9f24cb950d1661804e1365060d2165291d which makes more sense now
[12:59:57] <traveler__> maybe
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[16:03:58] <brada> traveler__: i didnt do anything that would have outright fixed your problem (i dont think). catching/handling errors better probably improved something, but you should be getting at least one openal error in your log
[16:04:30] <brada> even if the problem you are searching for doesnt appear
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[16:24:07] <traveler__> well
[16:24:15] <traveler__> then i could trigger no sound
[16:24:19] <traveler__> with about 30-40 rests
[16:24:23] <traveler__> now i can clink nonstop
[16:24:27] <traveler__> *ckick
[16:24:30] <traveler__> **click
[16:24:33] <traveler__> and no such thing
[16:25:40] <traveler__> i was playing with hotswapping usb dac (functionally sound card)
[16:25:49] <traveler__> so maybe my system somehow altered
[16:25:52] <traveler__> but i doubt so
[16:26:10] <traveler__> as i've sadi, i cannot trigger button overolad
[16:26:16] <traveler__> and this openal in wiki
[16:26:21] <traveler__> is really random
[16:26:36] <traveler__> so i never had an idea how to triggier it
[16:27:15] <traveler__> we can only wait, but i'm afraid i will not log as much hours on bg1 now as it's finished
[16:27:26] <traveler__> but ie bundle arrived today :)
[16:27:55] <traveler__> if i get around to extracting it, maybe there is some iwd/totl in future :)
[16:28:24] <traveler__> sorry for all typos, bbl
[16:47:47] <lynxlynxlynx> totl is covered, but a replay of how would be good
[16:48:02] <lynxlynxlynx> afaik i'm the only one to have played it
[16:49:04] <lynxlynxlynx> iwd itself is so plain it's hard to get things wrong
[16:49:33] <lynxlynxlynx> we already covered all the ugly bits like the hardcoded dwarven forge crap
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[17:58:10] <brada> traveler__: like i said im not exactly looking for you to trigger the problem you reported
[17:58:19] <brada> im looking for openal errors in general
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[18:33:19] <traveler__> ah ok
[18:33:25] <traveler__> no openal errors so far
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[19:35:45] <fizzle> lynxlynxlynx: when fatigue sets in the party members now seem to complain continually
[19:35:58] <fizzle> ie. they're spamming the message window like mad
[19:43:51] <lynxlynxlynx> hmm, so not just after loading a fatigued save?
[19:44:31] <fizzle> no, I seem to get one complaint per actor per second, roughly
[19:53:13] <brada> that has been a problem for a long time
[19:53:18] <brada> as far back as i remember
[19:56:32] <fizzle> maybe it's just more prominent now that fatigue's more prominent
[19:58:51] <brada> yeah i keep forgetting about it
[19:59:08] <brada> probably a fairly simple fix
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[20:50:16] <lynxlynxlynx> no, this is new
[20:50:41] <lynxlynxlynx> there are arguably still some yapping problems if you stand around for too long, but this is unrelated
[20:57:20] <brada> ah
[21:03:06] <lynxlynxlynx> those are about area comments and the bored timeout
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[22:34:38] <chiv> evening all
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[22:56:41] <traveler__> long time no see
[22:56:45] <traveler__> how's pst?
[22:58:43] <chiv> heh I haven't actually played for a while, waiting for the devs to shift focus to it really
[22:59:36] <chiv> the bugs that need fixing are out of my depth, or I probably would be working on it myself
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[23:06:15] <traveler__> chiv: there was some trigger work
[23:06:26] <traveler__> which massively helped me with levers in durlag's
[23:06:43] <chiv> oh cool, I have actually been away as well so i'm just catching up
[23:06:50] <traveler__> which means i've finished fully bg1
[23:07:29] <chiv> does totl still need a playthrough?
[23:08:50] <traveler__> how more like
[23:09:08] <traveler__> iirc lynx played totl
[23:10:00] <chiv> I might need to play the whole thing, its been a while...
[23:10:17] <traveler__> how included?
[23:10:32] <chiv> yeah
[23:11:03] <traveler__> i just (today) received ie bundle, but it will tak aw hile to extract relevant data, but probably iwd will be my next direction too
[23:11:34] <chiv> i really like the gog installers...
[23:11:49] <traveler__> i didn't use them
[23:12:36] <traveler__> by a while = finding windows notebook and installing data to some flash disk, as was with bg1
[23:12:56] <chiv> what are you playing it on?
[23:13:06] <traveler__> i need to (remind? find?) myself a sane way to swap configs on the fly too
[23:13:14] <traveler__> on what i run gemrb?
[23:13:15] <traveler__> freebs
[23:13:17] <traveler__> d*d
[23:13:34] <chiv> oh right, i guess no wine option then?
[23:14:29] <chiv> gemrb loads whatever config file matches the name of the executable, so if you copy gemrb to iwd, run iwd, it looks for iwd.cfg
[23:14:58] <chiv> i have it setup really simple with symlinks to the gemrb executable
[23:16:40] <traveler__> symlinks are evil
[23:16:57] <chiv> evil?
[23:17:00] <traveler__> yes
[23:17:12] <tomprince> Not fot that kind of think.
[23:17:18] <chiv> but they seem so... innocent
[23:17:23] <tomprince> That's how bustbox works, for example.
[23:17:31] <traveler__> there is wine on freebsd, but on amd64 it's not worth hassle
[23:17:31] <tomprince> hardlinks would also work.
[23:18:21] <chiv> i use links almost everywhere it seems...
[23:18:37] <traveler__> i'm not discarding this idea already, thanks for pointer
[23:19:09] <chiv> i got sort of overexcited the first time i migrated from windows
[23:19:47] <tomprince> Also, 'gemrb -c <config-file>' potentially in a script.
[23:20:43] <traveler__> *noted
[23:22:37] <traveler__> chiv: http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/symlinks
[23:22:40] <Seniorita> Symlinks are an abomination
[23:24:09] <traveler__> oh, seniorita is working again
[23:25:57] <chiv> i dunno, I can also seriously hurt myself with my power tools, but its ok if I know which way they are dangerous :)
[23:30:10] <traveler__> i find unix sufficient sharp without added confusion
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