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[00:11:03] <Baldurer> Logcat doesn't seem to show anything suspicious either
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[00:57:23] <Baldurer> I can use the software keyboard too after it happens
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[13:16:30] <lynxlynxlynx> Baldurer: try resting outside, a dream probably triggers
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[14:23:09] <Baldurer> Resting outside worked, and indeed a dream was triggered
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[14:58:44] <Baldurer> I tried version 0.7.0 and now it works to rest in an inn. However, no sleeping movie is shown. Neither does a dream appear. Is this intentional? Is 0.7.0 stable? I also noticed that after sleeping outside (and after dreaming), Jaheiras curse (that she got from Baron Ployer) disappears (in both versions)! Is this really ment to happen?
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[14:59:44] <lynxlynxlynx> for 0.7, the dreams were disabled in inns for the exact same reason
[15:00:26] <lynxlynxlynx> the curse expiry is an unrelated problem
[15:00:45] <lynxlynxlynx> unexplored too
[15:03:13] <lynxlynxlynx> load a save where she has it
[15:03:18] <lynxlynxlynx> ctrl+m on her
[15:03:33] <lynxlynxlynx> pastebin the result in the console
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[15:09:47] <Baldurer> Ok
[15:11:41] <Baldurer> Is there any way to press ctrl+m on android? Or ctrl-click with the mouse?
[15:14:22] <lynxlynxlynx> ugh
[15:14:26] <lynxlynxlynx> nevermind
[15:14:55] <lynxlynxlynx> you can bind the physical buttons, but i don't know if you can use modifiers
[15:21:06] <lynxlynxlynx> ok, found the spell
[15:22:03] <lynxlynxlynx> the curse icon has a fixed duration of 7200 ticks, which is one game day
[15:23:25] <lynxlynxlynx> the rest is done by her script
[15:25:32] <lynxlynxlynx> it reapplies the spell until it is too late
[15:27:00] <lynxlynxlynx> maybe we screw up the timers when progressing time
[15:28:02] <Baldurer> After I rest several days in a row in an inn, the spell is still there
[15:28:59] <lynxlynxlynx> that's good, but different to what you said earlier
[15:29:13] <Baldurer> Being able to ctrl click would be a really nice and useful feature on android
[15:29:58] <Baldurer> It disappears when sleeping outside
[15:30:15] <Baldurer> but not when sleeping in an inn
[15:31:07] <Baldurer> might be related to the dream happening when sleeping outside?
[15:32:16] <lynxlynxlynx> unlikely, but possible
[15:37:03] <lynxlynxlynx> just ignore it
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[15:56:09] <CIA-41> GemRB: 03avenger_teambg * r83343b252a29 10gemrb/gemrb/ (3 files in 2 dirs): added resource matching option to re-enable button opcode
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[16:13:53] <Baldurer> ok thx for the help
[16:14:14] <Baldurer> I managed to press ctrl+m on amdroid
[16:14:57] <Baldurer> by setting my menu button to ctrl and making a software button m
[16:15:48] <Baldurer> however, I still haven't found a way to ctrl click
[16:17:59] <lynxlynxlynx> just for adding up selections?
[16:18:59] <Baldurer> yes, that would be really nice
[16:19:21] <gembot> build #377 of cmake clang++ is complete: Failure [failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.gemrb.org/builders/cmake%20clang%2B%2B/builds/377 blamelist: avenger_teambg@sourceforge.net
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[16:27:37] <qubodup> hi
[16:27:54] <qubodup> I just replied to jaka's email to freegamer.blogspot.com
[16:28:38] <Baldurer> It seems the g key for returning to the game is disabled in gemrb? (at least on android?)
[16:29:47] <Baldurer> in bg2
[16:32:35] <lynxlynxlynx> qubodup: where do you prefer the reply?
[16:33:06] <lynxlynxlynx> Baldurer: btw, you can use the original 1 to = for selection too
[16:33:43] <lynxlynxlynx> clang segfaulted there, red herring
[16:33:53] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: perhaps add to FAQ what you think is FAQ-worthy?
[16:34:18] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: I was thinking of suggesting an AskMeAnything on reddit in case any engine dev likes to use reddig :)
[16:34:40] <qubodup> but I don't actually know what subreddit would be best to use and such
[16:35:09] <lynxlynxlynx> i doubt it, but let's see what others have to say
[16:35:10] <fuzzie> "I work on various game reimplementation projects and oh god it's all horrible please send help, AMA"?
[16:35:36] <Baldurer> 1 to =?
[16:35:45] <lynxlynxlynx> most of the info you ask for is already on the site, though i see some needs to be made even clearer
[16:35:55] <lynxlynxlynx> Baldurer: via the soft keyboard
[16:36:20] <lynxlynxlynx> 7,8,9,0,= pick pairs/triples/everyone
[16:36:38] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: i didn't see these on the faq's first post http://forums.gibberlings3.net/index.php?s=f7d92d57dbe32f23edaa6d08e77cdbf2&showtopic=3406
[16:36:38] <lynxlynxlynx> hmm, should be one more
[16:36:45] <qubodup> let me check wiki
[16:36:53] <lynxlynxlynx> the wiki is the main thing, yes
[16:37:33] <qubodup> i recommend replacing the content of that thread with a link to the appropriate wiki page then if there is a dedicaded faq page (now looking for it)
[16:37:45] <qubodup> what happened to the nice-style wiki btw?
[16:39:38] <qubodup> huh, the wiki licenes is nc :)
[16:39:49] <lynxlynxlynx> the old theme doesn't work with the newer versions anymore
[16:39:53] <qubodup> i see
[16:40:12] <lynxlynxlynx> someone made a nice replacement theme and then vanished (the other sticky)
[16:40:48] <Baldurer> ok so how do I select two specific characters?
[16:40:55] <lynxlynxlynx> none of the games are 100% the same in gemrb, even if you add a few percent for our improvements vs the original
[16:41:10] <lynxlynxlynx> Baldurer: those shortcuts are only for adjacent ones
[16:42:15] <lynxlynxlynx> ... and none of the engine devs work on a free game; the community interest is minimal in this regard (most want the originals and are not familiar with FLOSS)
[16:43:15] <Baldurer> ok and how do I select two adjacent ones?
[16:43:51] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: is there a list of differences or 'not yet implemented'?
[16:44:32] <lynxlynxlynx> not yet implemented stuff is listed mostly on the todo here: http://www.gemrb.org/wiki/doku.php?id=todo
[16:44:59] <lynxlynxlynx> some inovations here http://www.gemrb.org/wiki/doku.php?id=inovations
[16:45:47] <qubodup> hehe, not even loading intro video is definitely +++
[16:46:00] <gembot> build #376 of mingw32 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.gemrb.org/builders/mingw32/builds/376
[16:46:20] <lynxlynxlynx> i think most other differences are pretty technical (eg. the two mentioned in gemrb/docs/en/EngineChanges.txt)
[16:48:50] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: bg/2/tob , pst, iwd/2 are playable start to end?
[16:49:29] <lynxlynxlynx> bg and iwd1 up to totl
[16:49:40] <qubodup> totl?
[16:49:47] <lynxlynxlynx> so bg1+totsc+bg2+tob+iwd1+how
[16:50:05] <lynxlynxlynx> the free addon they made because people were mad how short how was
[16:50:31] <lynxlynxlynx> how can be confused with how :)
[16:50:38] <lynxlynxlynx> heart of winter, tales of the luremaster
[16:52:22] <qubodup> so bg1, bg2 and iwd1 including all addons are playable start to end?
[16:52:52] <Baldurer> nvm figured it out. thanks for the tips
[16:54:25] <lynxlynxlynx> i'm not sure about the first iwd1 addon, since i'm probably the only one to have played it through and much has changed since
[16:54:47] <lynxlynxlynx> the second one doesn't work almost certainly, since it has a very specific problem
[16:56:07] <qubodup> allright
[16:59:36] <lynxlynxlynx> ok, condensed the intro page a bit
[17:00:16] <lynxlynxlynx> when did you plan to publish qubodup?
[17:00:40] <lynxlynxlynx> if it's possible, i'd like a delay, so i can clean up an ugly part of the wiki
[17:02:22] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: can I help?
[17:02:37] <lynxlynxlynx> sure
[17:03:20] <lynxlynxlynx> the plan is to get rid of http://www.gemrb.org/wiki/doku.php?id=getting_started since it mostly duplicates what http://www.gemrb.org/wiki/doku.php?id=installation has
[17:03:32] <lynxlynxlynx> whatever is useful should be migrated
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[17:03:51] <lynxlynxlynx> i started on this yesterday, but it was friday ;)
[17:04:28] <lynxlynxlynx> you could help more in the sense what info you lack
[17:06:04] <qubodup> I'd first port the "Help!" to mainpage
[17:06:43] <qubodup> huh? did you just make a change?
[17:06:52] <qubodup> contact us -> under links?
[17:07:06] <lynxlynxlynx> yes
[17:07:20] <lynxlynxlynx> reduced the height, added screenshot
[17:07:46] <lynxlynxlynx> some bold highlights
[17:08:32] <qubodup> there are two download links. this is kind of confusing
[17:08:44] <qubodup> there's no info on how to make a choice between them
[17:08:50] <qubodup> Download it from here or here
[17:09:00] <qubodup> the forum is listed twice
[17:09:21] <lynxlynxlynx> yes, i'm still thinking how to merge them
[17:09:40] <qubodup> suggestion: merge "Help" from getting started with "Contact us"
[17:09:45] <qubodup> I'll make a google doc mockup
[17:10:15] <qubodup> Download it from here or here
[17:10:18] <qubodup> whoops
[17:10:28] <lynxlynxlynx> fixed that already
[17:11:10] <lynxlynxlynx> the help idea is good
[17:16:26] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: the dl links are still unclear. why are there two links?
[17:16:53] <qubodup> best remove the sf.net link
[17:18:02] <qubodup> GemRB term should be explained via this mouse-over I think
[17:18:35] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: any chance to switch to another wiki license btw?
[17:19:23] <lynxlynxlynx> which one?
[17:23:35] <Yoshimo> oh finally some love for the website
[17:24:01] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: to cc-by-sa ideally
[17:24:10] <qubodup> -nc licenses are kind of non-foss-y
[17:25:08] <lynxlynxlynx> i doubt people would care
[17:25:15] <lynxlynxlynx> we'd have to ask all the authors
[17:25:57] <qubodup> it kind of means that documentation that was created in the wiki can't be put in the source without theoretical license issues.
[17:26:14] <qubodup> I agree though that there shouldn't be other than idealistic problems
[17:39:55] <lynxlynxlynx> uhh, i keep forgetting my sf ssh pass
[17:46:00] <brad_a> happy day SDL 1.3 finally fixed their palette update problem!
[17:47:13] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1tgZyTR9deT3kyhjwSZvaaipT56F7nJrEkuwio-idyic
[17:51:17] <lynxlynxlynx> thanks
[17:51:33] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: can you add GemRB to acronyms.conf ?
[17:51:49] <qubodup> (would you think it makes sense?)
[17:51:50] <lynxlynxlynx> see note about passwords
[17:51:53] <lynxlynxlynx> sure
[17:52:08] <qubodup> password?
[17:52:13] <lynxlynxlynx> edheldil: here?
[17:52:26] <qubodup> oh. you mean you forgot yours
[17:53:01] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: if you approve, I'd gladly do the changes
[17:53:18] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: i can give your google account edit rights if you would like to use the doc to further prototype
[17:53:37] <lynxlynxlynx> no
[17:53:47] <lynxlynxlynx> not necessary
[17:54:01] <lynxlynxlynx> are you sure the media links should be on top?
[17:54:49] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: it would be better to have 2 screens and 1 video inline with links to gallery/video list below
[17:55:08] <qubodup> and then I also would recommend these to be rather at the top
[17:55:43] <qubodup> the visuals/videos are there to keep the attention of those who need to see resutls before spending time, trying to run it as well
[17:55:51] <qubodup> motivation so to say
[17:55:53] <lynxlynxlynx> just has to be in the first screen, since it grabs attention
[17:56:16] <lynxlynxlynx> your suggestion is fine, but it needs a bit of compression
[17:56:31] <lynxlynxlynx> iirc {{{NOTOC}}} is used to disable the menu
[17:58:07] <qubodup> ah, the image already links to gallery
[18:03:17] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1tgZyTR9deT3kyhjwSZvaaipT56F7nJrEkuwio-idyic check again plz
[18:03:52] <qubodup> the image is supposed to be floating
[18:03:54] <lynxlynxlynx> i've already chopped off bits of the bad guide btw
[18:04:56] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: am I clear to create a new page with "getting the games"?
[18:05:25] <lynxlynxlynx> sure, that's fine
[18:05:41] <lynxlynxlynx> don't rename old_changelogs though
[18:05:46] <qubodup> k
[18:06:11] <lynxlynxlynx> i'll create changelog
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[18:12:12] <qubodup> http://www.gemrb.org/wiki/doku.php?id=getting_the_games
[18:16:15] <lynxlynxlynx> just missing a title
[18:16:22] <qubodup> will fix
[18:18:15] <qubodup> fixed
[18:26:48] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: I would like to try making super-small theme for the wiki, so that its colors feel a little rpg-isher. I would try to make it look like http://ompldr.org/vYzRldw . If I succeed, would you be in favor of using that theme rather than the current (default?) one?
[18:27:20] <qubodup> obvious reasons against are: maintenance/future versions, colors might look bad
[18:27:30] <lynxlynxlynx> nah, it'd be fine
[18:27:50] <qubodup> i'll see if I can wrap my head around dokuwiki's style system quickly then
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[18:39:37] <lynxlynxlynx> ah, got to the shell
[18:40:42] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: 1. I'd move screenshots and videos below version/dl line and 2. the 'development' link is double now. 3. what do you want to be 'fix me'-d?
[18:41:26] <qubodup> the chatroom line is kind of ugly, perhaps remove all but the archive link from (), as irc pros will figure it out?...
[18:41:28] <lynxlynxlynx> that section needs to be put somewhere - now there is no link to the videos
[18:41:57] <lynxlynxlynx> the development thing i just need to make more appealing
[18:42:15] <qubodup> key info section = development thing?
[18:42:18] <lynxlynxlynx> we actually want help, we're not just documenting that there is development
[18:42:24] <qubodup> hm
[18:42:33] <lynxlynxlynx> key info == to be deleted, but see above
[18:43:31] <qubodup> the "Email addresses" line is out of line with the two above. kind of ugly. best include "E-mail" in the link
[18:45:15] <lynxlynxlynx> done
[18:45:35] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: your intension is "make it so that programmers who see the main page start wanting to contribute"? Or "make it so the main page makes it super-easy for programmers who want to contribute, to find the 'development' wiki page"? or something different?
[18:46:09] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: chatroom line is much better now, thanks
[18:46:17] <lynxlynxlynx> both and more, since anyone can contribute
[18:46:34] <lynxlynxlynx> so maybe i'll split it
[18:46:44] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: how, in one setance, can a person contribute?
[18:47:41] <qubodup> or: is https://openhatch.org/+projects/GemRB the sum of all ways how to contribute?
[18:47:45] <lynxlynxlynx> hard, but the sentence just needs to include http://www.gemrb.org/wiki/doku.php?id=contribute and it's fixed ;)
[18:48:09] * qubodup always fails to write 'sentence' correctly
[18:48:23] <qubodup> allright. I'll just get back to making that minimal theme
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[18:56:54] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: done http://piratepad.net/NdKZnJsxR1
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[19:05:14] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: here's a color-fitting fixme.gif http://ompldr.org/vYzRmeg
[19:05:33] <qubodup> (might be too invisible)
[19:06:06] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: cool, you added the acronym :)
[19:06:31] <lynxlynxlynx> not sure how they get updated though, some other still haven't applied
[19:06:51] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: is the 'more' link really supposed to link to gallyer, rather than 'platforms'?
[19:07:10] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: might be your browser? try ctrl+shift+r
[19:08:00] <qubodup> Runs Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale series plus Planescape: Torment
[19:08:06] <qubodup> why 'plus' instead of 'and'?
[19:08:35] <qubodup> oh I get it.
[19:08:41] <qubodup> ", as well as" might work too
[19:09:35] <qubodup> thumbs up to bolding of version number and 'downloaded' and screenshots and videos is probably also a good idea
[19:13:53] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: "Extensible plugin-based design with many limitations of the original engine(s) removed" - it seems unclear what this info is good for
[19:14:11] <lynxlynxlynx> it is mostly for existing modders
[19:14:12] <qubodup> probably only for people who want to make a new game using the engine
[19:14:49] <lynxlynxlynx> now they have to resort to dll injection or binary hacks to get some new smaller features
[19:14:57] <qubodup> might it be better placed inside [innovations]?
[19:15:20] <lynxlynxlynx> nah, it's also a sign of health :)
[19:15:28] <lynxlynxlynx> good for prospecting developers in general
[19:17:35] <qubodup> ok, in that case I'd rephrase to "Extensible plugin-based design that removes limitations of IE" because "many" is not precise and "(s)" is confusing (there is only "the" infinity engine after all.. yes we know there are different versions.. but there is only one engine name.. :))
[19:18:20] <lynxlynxlynx> ok
[19:18:25] <qubodup> My suggestion for the two lines "development and documenation" and "we welcome..." is to turn them into 3 lines:
[19:19:15] <qubodup> 1. We welcome any help with [development]. You can see non-programmer tasks here(link to openhatch).
[19:19:32] <qubodup> 2. Programmers should first take a look at our [documentation]
[19:19:39] <qubodup> (only 2 lines after all. but 3 sentences) :)
[19:20:38] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: is the "Fix Me" intended as "help us!" or as a "this wiki section needs work"? I'm sure it's intended for the latter only. I would be glad to create a graphic that signals "Programmers and testers wanted" or similar :)
[19:20:59] <lynxlynxlynx> it was for me, doh
[19:21:03] <qubodup> oh
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[19:21:46] <qubodup> I see you uploaded my version of "fix me". do you like it or should it be more attention-gathering (I'd add back some color for that)
[19:21:57] <lynxlynxlynx> it's fine, thanks
[19:22:12] <lynxlynxlynx> i'm happy with the front page now, will go up the theme
[19:22:13] <qubodup> I like the 'not convinced?...' line :)
[19:22:31] <lynxlynxlynx> :)
[19:22:46] <qubodup> very nice. I like the balance of lists and one-liner paragraphs
[19:23:24] <lynxlynxlynx> oh nice, just a sedliner
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[19:23:29] <qubodup> :)
[19:24:42] <qubodup> I've made about 10 forum and wiki themes and became more and more tired of customization-destroying version-bumps. So hopefully these few shell lines will make it easy to maintain an individual style
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[19:25:56] <qubodup> whee! no more ugly blue!
[19:26:05] <lynxlynxlynx> except for the links
[19:26:43] <qubodup> should I try to find a good-looking replacement?
[19:27:01] <lynxlynxlynx> it's up to you
[19:27:24] <qubodup> I'd rather not. I don't like them too much but I'm afraid I might make it worse from a usability stand point
[19:27:33] <lynxlynxlynx> looks like just a:visited and external links are amiss
[19:27:53] <qubodup> oh?
[19:28:57] <qubodup> well, internal links are always the same green, right?
[19:29:09] <lynxlynxlynx> yep
[19:29:15] <qubodup> external links look like browser standard to me (at least IE browser standard..)
[19:29:22] <lynxlynxlynx> well, not the backlink one in the title
[19:29:35] <lynxlynxlynx> & oops, need to copy the favicon over
[19:33:17] <qubodup> I missed the favicon?
[19:33:58] <lynxlynxlynx> it's odd
[19:34:16] <lynxlynxlynx> should be fine now
[19:34:26] <qubodup> hm. in tpl/qubodup/images/favicon.ico
[19:34:48] <lynxlynxlynx> it was just the sf separation of writable stuff
[19:36:54] <qubodup> i still see the dokuwiki favicon
[19:37:09] <qubodup> ok no more
[19:37:30] <qubodup> .... fffuuun. it appears to make a difference whether or not I use www.
[19:37:46] <fuzzie> browser cache?
[19:37:46] <qubodup> http://www.gemrb.org/wiki/doku.php?id=start -> dokuwiki, http://gemrb.org/wiki/doku.php?id=start -> gemrb icon
[19:38:14] <qubodup> fuzzie: shift+ctrl+r doesn't make the www. icon be correct..
[19:38:32] <brad_a> clear your cache?
[19:38:43] <brad_a> oh lol too lat
[19:38:43] <brad_a> e
[19:39:08] <qubodup> http://gemrb.org/wiki/lib/tpl/qubodup/images/favicon.ico
[19:39:12] <qubodup> http://www.gemrb.org/wiki/lib/tpl/qubodup/images/favicon.ico
[19:39:15] <qubodup> try for yourself
[19:39:25] <fuzzie> i did, i don't see the issue
[19:39:26] <qubodup> might be server-side caching?
[19:39:28] <fuzzie> i get favicons
[19:39:45] <qubodup> fuzzie: they look different though, don't they?
[19:40:02] <fuzzie> no?
[19:40:08] <fuzzie> their md5sums are identical, too
[19:40:08] <qubodup> oh
[19:40:16] <qubodup> ok. wget gives me the right one
[19:40:30] <qubodup> i guess I don't know chromium as well as I thought I did
[19:40:42] <fuzzie> i mean, i don't know anything about the server setup, quite possible it is spitting out bad icons occasionally or something
[19:40:52] <qubodup> won't clear cache right now, since I'm uplading something right now
[19:40:54] <fuzzie> (or e.g. based on login cookie?)
[19:41:02] <qubodup> good idea
[19:45:54] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: there seems to be double/shared information between the installation and download page
[19:46:24] <lynxlynxlynx> ok
[19:46:36] <lynxlynxlynx> currently killing off that other doc
[19:46:40] <qubodup> k
[19:57:43] <qubodup> is it gemrb.conf or GemRB.conf?
[19:58:17] <lynxlynxlynx> anything you name it, we just provide two samples
[19:58:40] <qubodup> is there no default one called either one or the other?
[20:01:01] <lynxlynxlynx> depends on the distribution
[20:01:20] <lynxlynxlynx> there is no default, since you'll have to enter the game path anyway
[20:01:57] <qubodup> If you already have a game installed somewhere, even if it is on another OS, just make sure that that filesystem is mounted (writable or you won't be able to save!) and point GemRB to the relevant directory (set GamePath in gemrb.cfg).
[20:02:10] <lynxlynxlynx> except for that and the cd paths, all settings have good defaults
[20:02:23] <qubodup> oh. .cfg I mean
[20:02:43] <lynxlynxlynx> the name is irrelevant
[20:02:58] <lynxlynxlynx> but if you release the lock ...
[20:03:18] <qubodup> released
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[20:03:45] <qubodup> I was replacing "gemrb" with "GemRB" and was unsure about the inconsistency in the .cfg file name
[20:07:13] <lynxlynxlynx> ah && there
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[20:12:20] <lynxlynxlynx> ok, "newbie guide" is gone
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[20:26:53] <qubodup> yay
[20:28:00] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: are there any more changes you want to make before I post on freegamer?
[20:28:17] <lynxlynxlynx> i'm adding the logo to the header right now
[20:28:21] <qubodup> it's going to be a updates-about many projects post, it won't concentrate on gemrb tbh
[20:28:25] <qubodup> heh, funny logo
[20:28:44] <qubodup> afk20min
[20:28:49] <lynxlynxlynx> maybe i'll make it overflow, so it can be double
[20:52:51] <lynxlynxlynx> ok, that's it
[20:54:27] <lynxlynxlynx> thanks for the help qubodup
[20:56:14] <qubodup> glad to be of help
[21:14:46] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: bookmark this for the far future when you're gonna upgrade dokuwiki :) http://qubodup.wordpress.com/2012/01/07/simple-dokuwiki-theme-style-because-the-default-is-kind-of-ugly/
[21:19:13] <lynxlynxlynx> not enough anymore, since i've changed the header
[21:19:26] <lynxlynxlynx> but it's not a problem anyway
[21:26:37] <qubodup> lynxlynxlynx: how did you do that?
[21:26:57] <lynxlynxlynx> i modified the template
[21:27:17] <qubodup> allright
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