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[12:28:16] <Kirben> Compile error with current CVS:
[12:28:17] <Kirben> EggManager.cpp: In member function `void EggManager::spawn_eggs(uint16, uint16, uint8)':
[12:28:17] <Kirben> EggManager.cpp:133: error: `OBJ_STATUS_SEEN_EGG' was not declared in this scope
[12:29:31] <SB-X> oops I forgot that one
[12:29:50] <SB-X> fixed, thanks
[12:30:05] <SB-X> and hi
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[12:44:30] <SB-X> hello
[12:44:34] <SB-X> Yuv422
[12:44:36] <Yuv422> hey
[12:44:40] <Yuv422> how's things?
[12:44:59] <SB-X> fine, it took me an hour to find out what was causing that bug with eggs
[12:45:27] <SB-X> but you can see that I fixed my mail server issue (committed the files twice to make sure)
[12:46:09] <SB-X> i looked through several source files before realizing that EggManager was changing eggs back to invisible even after I unhid them, because OBJ_STATUS_INVISIBLE was the same as OBJ_STATUS_SEEN_EGG
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[12:50:55] <SB-X> bleh
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[12:51:11] <Yuv422> hehe
[12:51:23] <Yuv422> silly irc
[12:52:00] <Yuv422> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWkMGl5yqlw
[12:52:56] <Yuv422> the worst part is you don't know you've been disconnected
[12:53:04] <Yuv422> untill it magically reconnects you
[12:53:17] <Yuv422> or by looking in the logs.
[12:55:52] <SB-X> HAH@video
[12:55:57] <SB-X> And I was going to buy one of those. :p
[12:56:49] <Yuv422> hehe they are quite hard to fly I've been told
[12:57:34] <SB-X> well the always intelligent comments at youtube.com say so, so it must be true
[12:57:48] <Yuv422> hehe yeah.
[12:58:06] <Yuv422> I had an rc plane when I was a kid
[12:58:15] <Yuv422> but it never took to the skys
[12:58:19] <Yuv422> skies
[12:58:20] <SB-X> I wanted one.
[12:58:24] <SB-X> why did you have one then?
[12:58:39] <Yuv422> it took me so long to build
[12:58:51] <SB-X> heh
[12:58:53] <Yuv422> that when it was ready I wasn't game to fly it
[12:59:16] <SB-X> i want an rc blimp too
[12:59:58] <SB-X> heh, hopefully you got to put it up somewhere visible as record that you built it
[13:00:00] <Yuv422> yeah anything rc is cool in my books
[13:00:19] <Yuv422> I have a petrol rc car too
[13:00:28] <SB-X> well I want an airship so an rc blimp is the closest I can get now I guess :)
[13:00:38] <SB-X> ah
[13:00:45] <Yuv422> argh the humanity!
[13:01:04] <SB-X> does your rc car do anything better than a battery powered one?
[13:01:12] <Yuv422> would you fill it with hydrogen?
[13:01:15] <SB-X> no
[13:01:19] <Yuv422> it goes very fast
[13:01:29] <SB-X> cool
[13:01:38] <Yuv422> too fast for it's flimsy plastic construction
[13:01:48] <SB-X> haha
[13:01:54] <Yuv422> I've snapped a few parts by crashing it into things
[13:02:45] <SB-X> if I get an rc anything im going to put one of those wireless cameras on it
[13:03:02] <Yuv422> yeah that would be neat.
[13:03:09] <Yuv422> how about rockets?
[13:03:16] <Yuv422> I always wanted a rocket
[13:03:21] <Yuv422> with a camera
[13:03:22] <SB-X> my friend is getting a wireless camera and I suggested he put it on an rc blimp :)
[13:03:26] <SB-X> heh, never thought of that
[13:03:59] <SB-X> depends how high it would go and how long it takes too come back
[13:04:21] <Yuv422> just don't fire it on a windy day
[13:04:39] <SB-X> you've played with rockets before?
[13:04:41] <Yuv422> or if you do have a very big open space to launch it
[13:04:45] <SB-X> heh
[13:04:46] <Yuv422> no :(
[13:05:00] <SB-X> oh, well that sounds like "don't fly your rc helicopter too close to the ground"
[13:05:28] <Yuv422> hehe but it's so cool if you can pull it off
[13:06:12] <SB-X> Yeah... hmm, you could set up the controls with the camera so you can virtually pilot it.
[13:06:41] <SB-X> oh, I also want an ornithopter
[13:06:53] <Yuv422> a what? :)
[13:06:55] <SB-X> or an rc plane that flies like a bird
[13:07:00] <SB-X> by flapping it's wings
[13:07:03] <SB-X> just because it looks cool
[13:07:05] <Yuv422> cool
[13:07:18] <SB-X> there's a korean company that sells them
[13:07:33] <Yuv422> maybe we could ask for rc donations on sf.net
[13:07:34] <Yuv422> ?
[13:07:35] <Yuv422> ;)
[13:07:55] <Yuv422> want fullscreen map mode in nuvie?
[13:08:15] <Yuv422> then donate a flapping rc plane thingo to SB-X :)
[13:08:27] <Yuv422> made in korea. ;)
[13:08:38] <SB-X> oh, i thought you were asking me if I want fullscreen map mode :p
[13:08:41] <SB-X> i don't think that would go over well
[13:08:58] <Yuv422> I wanted a sub when I was a kid
[13:09:02] <Yuv422> hehe yeah
[13:09:47] <SB-X> I got tired of submarines after watching Seaquest DSV and playing the game.
[13:10:00] <Yuv422> that was a silly show
[13:10:04] <SB-X> lol
[13:10:21] <SB-X> although the submarines in Final Fantasy VII were fun
[13:10:32] <SB-X> if slightly pointless
[13:10:37] <Yuv422> I like the sub in earth worm jim! :)
[13:10:45] <SB-X> I never played that.
[13:10:52] <Yuv422> good platform game
[13:11:36] <SB-X> Yeah I never had a good reason to add it to my "games to play list". Maybe I will now.
[13:11:48] <SB-X> most of the games I want to play are RPGs
[13:12:18] <SB-X> and there's a lot to go through
[13:12:41] <Yuv422> I had the megadrive version
[13:12:53] <Yuv422> or genesis if you prefer
[13:12:54] <SB-X> You mean Genesis.
[13:12:57] <SB-X> :D
[13:13:00] <Yuv422> :P
[13:13:10] <Yuv422> ;)
[13:13:13] <SB-X> was an SNES man myself
[13:13:33] <Yuv422> yeah snes was where is was at for console rpgs
[13:13:38] <SB-X> never had any sega console
[13:13:51] <Yuv422> i had a sms and a megadrive
[13:14:06] <SB-X> not even the gamegear which was in color when the gameboy was black and white
[13:14:11] <SB-X> what is the sms called in america?
[13:14:18] <Yuv422> master system?
[13:14:21] <SB-X> yeah
[13:14:38] <Yuv422> alex kidd
[13:14:49] <Yuv422> in miracle world
[13:15:19] <SB-X> oh heh I never saw one here so I thought that was just a name used in other regions
[13:16:33] <SB-X> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Master_System
[13:16:54] <Yuv422> I had the sms 2
[13:17:58] <SB-X> oh, so you couldn't use the 3d glasses
[13:18:03] <Yuv422> http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Ultima-VI-by-Origin-Mint-Sealed_W0QQitemZ8220131272QQcategoryZ4315QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[13:18:12] <Yuv422> not too sure about the 3d glasses
[13:18:27] <SB-X> because you didn't have a card port
[13:18:34] <Yuv422> ah yes
[13:18:51] <SB-X> oh, wow
[13:18:53] <SB-X> Mint! Sealed!
[13:19:06] <Yuv422> check out the price though
[13:19:36] <SB-X> hehe
[13:19:38] <SB-X> can't you bid on it?
[13:20:06] <SB-X> I would buy it but not for that price.
[13:20:15] <Yuv422> no looks like it is buy now only
[13:20:38] <Yuv422> yeah that's like 8x original market price
[13:20:48] <Yuv422> not considering inflation.
[13:21:06] <Yuv422> it would be nice to have though
[13:21:28] <SB-X> except for the Mint! Sealed! part don't you occasionally see U6 boxes for sale?
[13:21:44] <Yuv422> yeah all the time
[13:21:56] <Yuv422> I bought two from ebay myself. :)
[13:22:21] <Yuv422> actually I've bought 4 copies of u6 from ebay now
[13:22:39] <Yuv422> two original u6, u6 for super famicom and fm towns u6
[13:23:22] <Yuv422> I got a copy of u5 on ebay too
[13:23:34] <SB-X> Yeah, thanks again for that copy of u6. :)
[13:23:43] <Yuv422> np :)
[13:23:46] <SB-X> although i still havnt tried installing from the disks yet
[13:23:49] <Yuv422> I didn't need it
[13:23:58] <Yuv422> I've got enough u6 stuff now. :)
[13:24:02] <Yuv422> probably too much
[13:24:05] <Yuv422> ;)
[13:24:05] <SB-X> have you played the super famicom version yet?
[13:24:14] <Yuv422> no
[13:24:33] <SB-X> same here, which is why that price on the Mint! Sealed! box seems even higher
[13:24:37] <SB-X> ok
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[13:25:24] <SB-X> wb
[13:25:27] <Yuv422> hmm my irc client crashed
[13:25:35] <Yuv422> it hasn't done that before
[13:26:47] <SB-X> you're not using the "stable" version are you? http://colloquy.info/downloads.html
[13:27:00] <Yuv422> http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Ultima-VI-6-Rare-Japanese-Ponycanyon-Version-by-Origin_W0QQitemZ8258170332QQcategoryZ4315QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[13:27:05] <Yuv422> this is what I want next
[13:27:15] <Yuv422> but I got some actual box picks from the guy
[13:27:26] <Yuv422> and it looks in pretty bad shape
[13:27:44] <SB-X> "Hard to find Japanese version of this classic for collectors or japanese players. Very nice contents, but poor box. Mata ne!"
[13:27:59] <Yuv422> he's not kidding
[13:28:06] <Yuv422> the box looks terrible
[13:28:06] <SB-X> I forgot that Ponycanyon published the Japanese versions. I thought they just published the SNES version.
[13:28:16] <Yuv422> the actual box that is
[13:28:19] <SB-X> hehe
[13:28:22] <Yuv422> not the images he has there
[13:28:52] <SB-X> i was going to bid an FMA box set that had a few dents in it, but i got outbid before I got around to it
[13:28:59] <Yuv422> I was trying to search japanese yahoo for a copy
[13:29:02] <SB-X> that is, the bid when higher than I cared to spend
[13:29:28] <SB-X> speaking of the SNES U6, someone mentioned it in the most recent Nuvie forum post
[13:30:31] <Yuv422> yeah I just read that post
[13:31:03] <Yuv422> ウルティマ
[13:31:14] <SB-X> do what now?
[13:31:22] <Yuv422> ultima
[13:31:31] <Yuv422> in japanese
[13:31:34] <SB-X> ウルティマ
[13:31:41] <Yuv422> yup
[13:31:56] <SB-X> What? that converted correctly for you? I must need to install some fonts.
[13:31:56] <Yuv422> http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ウルティマ
[13:32:15] <Yuv422> you don't have japanese fonts installed?
[13:32:59] <SB-X> I've got unicode fonts that come with X or Slackware, that's all.
[13:33:08] <Yuv422> ah X11
[13:33:29] <Yuv422> I forget. I'm used to the mac now
[13:33:41] <Yuv422> :)
[13:33:42] <SB-X> I still want to get one of those.
[13:34:10] <Yuv422> how about the mac mini
[13:34:20] <Yuv422> you can dual boot windows now
[13:34:28] <SB-X> oh? havn't thought much about it
[13:34:35] <SB-X> im not buy a new computer yet
[13:34:38] <SB-X> buying*
[13:34:47] <Yuv422> they are a bit pricey though
[13:35:17] <SB-X> what about PowerBook?
[13:35:30] <Yuv422> macbook?
[13:35:42] <SB-X> ah
[13:35:43] <SB-X> http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/
[13:35:49] <Yuv422> yeah
[13:35:52] <SB-X> have you had a mac notebook?
[13:36:52] <Yuv422> powermac
[13:36:53] <Yuv422> g5
[13:37:05] <SB-X> how do you like it esp. compared to a pc notebook?
[13:37:21] <Yuv422> it's a desktop
[13:37:36] <SB-X> well, I want to get a notebook too
[13:38:03] <Yuv422> a work colleague is getting a macbook soon
[13:38:16] <Yuv422> I'll let you know what it's like
[13:38:29] <SB-X> ok
[13:40:48] <Yuv422> http://page2.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b62451191
[13:41:28] <Yuv422> http://page7.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/g37899671
[13:43:34] <SB-X> i see japanese in firefox :)
[13:43:41] <Yuv422> cool
[13:44:07] <Yuv422> Overseas it does not dispatch. (Seller will not ship internationally
[13:44:09] <Yuv422> :(
[13:46:06] <SB-X> "Mata ne."
[13:46:25] <Yuv422> yeah
[13:46:31] <Yuv422> goodbye u6
[13:47:07] <SB-X> spend time with the snes version instead
[13:47:47] <SB-X> can you look into some bugs i found
[13:47:56] <Yuv422> sure
[13:48:19] <Yuv422> what are the bugs?
[13:48:28] <SB-X> in talks with multiple actors (Nystul, Iolo) the portrait isn't getting cleared when it changes
[13:48:44] <Yuv422> right
[13:48:49] <Yuv422> let me have a look
[13:48:57] <SB-X> killing blaine is crashing nuvie
[13:49:03] <SB-X> while he's in my party at least
[13:49:32] <SB-X> music still doesn't start & stop correctly, pausing instead of stopping (not really a bug)
[13:50:09] <SB-X> And vehicles aren't working right. The move-to sequence looks odd, and using a vehicle sometimes moves it to 0,0,0, resulting in a crash when you exit it.
[13:50:18] <Yuv422> hmm my iolo conv is hotwired for spam
[13:50:22] <SB-X> hah
[13:50:26] <SB-X> try nystul
[13:50:31] <Yuv422> righto
[13:51:02] <SB-X> dont worry about that last bug i mentioned, im working on changes to the actor move code now and will worry about it after that
[13:51:24] <Yuv422> righto
[13:52:04] <SB-X> i made actors move on their own after you move, instead of in the same frame
[13:52:15] <SB-X> and I added combat mode
[13:52:37] <SB-X> (which requires the actors moving on their own)
[13:53:03] <Yuv422> I see what you mean with the portraits
[13:53:06] <SB-X> :)
[13:53:13] <SB-X> it wasnt doing that before
[13:53:44] <Yuv422> that should be an easy fix
[13:53:47] <Yuv422> let me see
[13:53:56] <SB-X> oh, I've got monsters attacking the party and the party attacking everyone :)
[13:54:07] <Yuv422> cool
[13:54:13] <SB-X> just with bare hands because I don't know how to change weapons, but you can add that
[13:54:28] <Yuv422> sounds good all the same. :)
[13:54:35] <SB-X> yep, the party was even attacking eachother
[13:54:42] <Yuv422> Oucj
[13:54:44] <Yuv422> Ouch
[13:54:47] <SB-X> and running around in circles
[13:54:52] <SB-X> thats all they do right now
[13:55:42] <SB-X> but the combat mode button and COMMAND mode works too, so you can change them to COMMAND and control them directly
[13:56:21] <SB-X> I wasn't sure how to make the combat mode button disappear for the Avatar so you'll be able to change that hopefully.
[13:57:49] <Yuv422> copiling nuvie in xcode now
[13:58:49] <Yuv422> compiling
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[14:06:18] <Yuv422> hmm the spells.nsl file is read from the current working dir
[14:06:31] <Yuv422> I guess that should go in the data dir
[14:07:44] <SB-X> yeah I agree
[14:08:07] <Yuv422> I'll fix that now
[14:10:38] <Yuv422> ok nuvie's compiling under xcode now. :)
[14:11:22] <SB-X> great
[14:27:37] <Yuv422> ok I've fixed the portrait bug too
[14:27:51] <SB-X> great
[14:27:58] <SB-X> what was wrong?
[14:29:04] <Yuv422> it wasn't cleaning the screen properly when switching from portrait to portrait and doll mode
[14:29:26] <Yuv422> because that only happens when in conversaion
[14:29:31] <Yuv422> conversation
[14:30:09] <SB-X> oh, ok
[14:30:16] <SB-X> i thought it might be related to that
[14:30:27] <SB-X> i didn't see it before you added portrait-only mode
[14:30:35] <SB-X> or portrait and doll mode
[14:30:53] <Yuv422> diff -r1.12 PortraitView.cpp
[14:30:53] <Yuv422> 129a130,132
[14:30:53] <Yuv422> >
[14:30:53] <Yuv422> > if(screen)
[14:30:53] <Yuv422> > screen->fill(0x31, area.x, area.y, area.w, area.h);
[14:31:06] <Yuv422> a very simple fix. :)
[14:31:25] <Yuv422> I just clean the widget when changing portraits. :)
[14:33:04] <SB-X> good
[14:33:10] <SB-X> at least for U6 :)
[14:33:17] <Yuv422> yeah
[14:33:27] <Yuv422> ok those changes are in cvs now
[14:33:38] <SB-X> screen->fill(insert_favorite_color,...);
[14:33:46] <Yuv422> yeah
[14:34:06] <Yuv422> magic data is evil
[14:34:21] <SB-X> i've got the beginnings of a text-replacement file
[14:34:34] <SB-X> for translation
[14:34:53] <SB-X> but i have a lot of other changes to make before starting to use that
[14:34:58] <Yuv422> cool
[14:35:20] <Yuv422> oh by the way.
[14:35:33] <Yuv422> what did you change to get your cvs mail to work?
[14:36:30] <SB-X> just changed my email in sourceforge account settings
[14:36:46] <Yuv422> right
[14:36:57] <SB-X> apparently that other one only works for incoming mail now
[14:37:12] <SB-X> at least, it wont sent outgoing mail by sf.net
[14:37:38] <SB-X> scroll->display_string(get_text(TEXT_SAY_DUNGEON, TEXT_DUNGEON, TEXT_DUNGEON_DESPISE)); // Shamino says, "This is the dungeon Despise."
[14:38:24] <Yuv422> how would we handle non english chars?
[14:38:44] <SB-X> (TEXT_SAY_DUNGEON = "Shamino says, \"This is the %1 %2.\")
[14:38:51] <SB-X> no idea, does msgscroll handle those?
[14:38:55] <SB-X> it will have to for the japanese version
[14:39:01] <Yuv422> yeah
[14:39:14] <SB-X> if so, then we just have to read them from the text file
[14:39:19] <SB-X> and it should work
[14:39:34] <SB-X> with the proper string format
[14:42:56] <Yuv422> then we'll need a team of translators.
[14:44:03] <SB-X> you can handle that
[14:44:26] <Yuv422> thanks. ;)
[14:44:44] <SB-X> you're welcome
[14:44:49] <SB-X> did you look into the blaine crash
[14:44:50] <Yuv422> I wonder how many lines of text would need to be translated
[14:45:01] <Yuv422> no
[14:45:10] <Yuv422> could you send me a savegame?
[14:45:29] <SB-X> ok
[14:45:38] <SB-X> re: text, no more than 700
[14:45:39] <Yuv422> I might go to bed now though
[14:45:47] <SB-X> probably closer to 600
[14:46:02] <Yuv422> including conversations?
[14:46:05] <SB-X> OH
[14:46:06] <SB-X> heh
[14:46:08] <SB-X> nope
[14:48:49] <SB-X> sending file
[14:49:57] <Yuv422> thanks
[14:50:07] <SB-X> Hey, it's working. I was about to email it. :)
[14:50:08] <SB-X> np
[14:50:32] <Yuv422> hehe I stepped away from my computer for a second
[14:50:44] <Yuv422> I just had to accept the transfer
[14:50:47] <SB-X> np, just suprised that DCC between us works now
[14:50:59] <Yuv422> It's probablt one way only
[14:51:06] <SB-X> ah k
[14:51:07] <Yuv422> let me try
[14:51:11] <SB-X> how convenient that nuvie saves to individual savegames too
[14:51:24] <Yuv422> yeah I was just thinking that
[14:51:25] <SB-X> instead of using the ultima6 savegame format
[14:51:27] <SB-X> :)
[14:51:45] <SB-X> agreed then
[14:51:56] <SB-X> and we could even zip them!
[14:52:25] <SB-X> 68K
[14:53:44] <SB-X> argh, it didn't crash now
[14:53:49] <Yuv422> yeah I never got around to adding gzip support
[14:54:18] <SB-X> --- Received a malformed DCC request from Yuv422.
[14:54:18] <SB-X> --- Contents of packet: DCC SEND subway5.gif 410716
[14:54:29] <Yuv422> :(
[14:55:07] <SB-X> same
[14:55:19] <Yuv422> oh well
[14:55:26] <Yuv422> at least one way works
[14:55:27] <Yuv422> :)
[14:55:36] <SB-X> it looks like a client issue there though
[14:55:43] <Yuv422> yeah
[14:56:12] <SB-X> if you cant get it to crash by killing blaine, maybe you have some insight on fixing the music?
[14:56:26] <SB-X> i could change it if you tell me how
[14:56:56] <Yuv422> I'm trying some dcc options
[14:56:56] <SB-X> that error was the same as before except it added a 41 at the end
[14:57:07] <Yuv422> hmm
[15:10:35] <SB-X> that rotund healer in britain is rude
[15:10:58] <SB-X> "That ain't enough money. Go see a gravedigger. I reckon his price'll be lower."
[15:11:08] <SB-X> "Go in peace, my children."
[15:11:31] <SB-X> but I knew that
[15:12:14] <Yuv422> yeah it's criminal that they charge for healing in that way. :)
[15:13:30] <SB-X> I was just testing resurrection again. Apparently I can kill and resurrect Blaine without crashing Nuvie. Too bad.
[15:13:52] <SB-X> did you fix DCC?
[15:14:11] <Yuv422> nah not yet
[15:14:17] <Yuv422> I'm off to bed now
[15:14:28] <Yuv422> I'll have a look at it along with the crashing tomorrow
[15:17:23] <SB-X> aww
[15:17:26] <SB-X> no idea about music?
[15:17:44] <Yuv422> not off the top of my head. :)
[15:17:48] <SB-X> ok, cya
[15:17:54] <Yuv422> talk to you tomorrow
[15:17:57] <Yuv422> :)
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