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[02:39:47] <Malignant_Manor> Dominus: What php converter do you use for Exult?
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[02:46:17] <Malignant_Manor> Dominus: What php converter do you use for Exult? (think you might have been temp out when I asked)
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[07:26:18] <dominusonphone> Malignant: I'm still using xalan/xerxces commandline stuff via makefile to build the php stuff
[07:26:42] <dominusonphone> See exults docs folder readme
[07:27:27] <dominusonphone> Never had much success in finding a good gui program on windows and os x for this
[07:28:40] <dominusonphone> Sdl 1.2.15 should have fixed fullscreen issues on lion
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[15:47:06] <Malignant_Manor> Dominus, that sounds like a real pain.
[16:52:41] <Dominus> if you have java installed it's just "make makefile.win32" (or so) in the docs folder
[16:53:07] * Dominus has his baby around and is not likely to answer in time atm
[16:54:40] <Malignant_Manor> For setting up Nuvie files to autogenerate
[16:55:12] <Dominus> why, just copy stuff over from exult or pentagram
[16:55:53] <Dominus> of course you need to provide the readme from the generated stuff so it doesn't need to be done for release or so
[16:56:22] <Dominus> you can do all this in a batch file once you are done with writing
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[16:56:58] <Malignant_Manor> Don't I have to setup xml files of the docs and xsl templates?
[16:58:48] <Dominus> of course, yew
[16:59:19] <Malignant_Manor> That's what sounds like a real pain.
[16:59:31] <Dominus> thats annoying once but in the long run saves you time when doing the php thing
[17:00:10] <Dominus> and I can probably help you with that
[17:00:34] <Dominus> I offer that once you write the readme, I can do the xml stuff
[17:01:23] <Malignant_Manor> I built Nuvie as a console app with the same makefile "hack" as Exult. It works but the show_console config option doesn't
[17:02:21] <Malignant_Manor> I wonder if it works in Linux and OSX.
[17:04:13] <Malignant_Manor> For the docs, I am pretty much just updating docs.php.
[17:09:23] <Malignant_Manor> I should be all done with the key commands and alt codes. I will probably be more specific in the "Not yet implemented". Configuration settings need updated.
[17:15:28] <Dominus> you know, good comeback
[17:15:50] <Dominus> first you complain to me that I made you write the docs and then you slowly tricke me to do stuff as well :)
[17:16:44] <Malignant_Manor> Well, I was hoping to use an online converter to just convert the php template for graphics and paste that in.
[17:17:04] <Malignant_Manor> Then change the extension to html.
[18:17:49] <Malignant_Manor> Nuvie is slower than Exult.
[19:12:50] <Dominus> what do you mean with the console hack? I don't get what you mean...
[19:13:10] <Malignant_Manor> Look at makefile.mingw
[19:13:23] <Malignant_Manor> It just uses a different lib
[19:14:39] <Dominus> but what does it do?
[19:15:02] <Malignant_Manor> It adds a window that displays console info
[19:15:30] <Malignant_Manor> like what would happen if run from the command line in unix-like OS
[19:15:44] <Dominus> ah, you mean like dosbox
[19:15:52] <Malignant_Manor> Yeah
[19:17:02] <Dominus> on OS X this works different. you will get the console right away if you execute the binary from the bundle and not the app bundle
[19:17:38] <Dominus> if you start the app bundle you will get the output in the console.app
[19:17:40] <Malignant_Manor> Does the show_console cfg setting do anything in OSX?
[19:18:01] <Dominus> no idea, never knew it existed :)
[19:18:44] <Malignant_Manor> It's under <general>
[19:19:45] <Malignant_Manor> I'm also wondering if the needing to create u6_save folder stuff is outdated.
[19:19:57] <Malignant_Manor> It is unneeded in Windows.
[19:20:35] <Dominus> show_console does nothing in nuvie
[19:21:22] <Malignant_Manor> You checked yes and no for differences?
[19:21:33] <Dominus> of course
[19:21:34] <Dominus> not
[19:23:20] <Dominus> tried both and starting the binary as opposed to the bundle
[19:23:49] <Dominus> no difference and didn't expect it
[19:24:09] <Dominus> when you start the binary directly it will of course show the console, that's just how it works on os x
[19:24:20] <Dominus> no way to suppress this
[19:24:44] <Dominus> and when you start the bundle it is always suppressed
[19:24:45] <Malignant_Manor> I'm not sure how Linux works.
[19:25:13] <Dominus> probably the same as os x, excpet there is no bundle
[19:25:33] <Dominus> either you start the binary from the console, so you have the console anyway
[19:25:39] <Malignant_Manor> I thought maybe it stopped commands from being updated to the console.
[19:26:02] <Dominus> or you double click the binary and it will open a console first
[19:26:24] <Dominus> thanks for the fullscreen patch, no time to try it out today.
[19:26:34] <Malignant_Manor> if(displayConsole == false)
[19:26:36] <Malignant_Manor> Hide();
[19:27:02] <Dominus> I'm beat, jut brought my daughter to bed and want to spend time with my gf before we fall to bed...
[19:27:35] <Malignant_Manor> Well, have a good time.
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