#nuvie@irc.freenode.net logs for 22 Nov 2005 (GMT)

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[11:53:23] <Yuv422> hej
[11:59:26] <SB-X> gu
[11:59:48] <SB-X> hi
[12:01:08] <Yuv422> :)
[12:02:01] <Yuv422> that's the only word of swedish I know
[12:02:50] <SB-X> heh, more than I know
[12:03:47] <Yuv422> god kväll
[12:04:40] <SB-X> ?
[12:06:21] <SB-X> Hehe I just move a ladder with Nuvie. The one that goes to the gargoyle world from Hythloth.
[12:06:26] <SB-X> moved*
[12:06:37] <Yuv422> oh dear
[12:06:40] <Yuv422> that's not good
[12:07:15] <SB-X> hackmover is enabled
[12:07:33] <Yuv422> ah k
[12:07:47] <SB-X> I just didn't realize it when I tried using it with the mouse. Didn't know it would still work either. :)
[12:13:17] <SB-X> haha
[12:13:25] <Yuv422> ?
[12:13:28] <SB-X> wierd, I dragged the ladder into my inventory and could still use it
[12:13:36] <Yuv422> hehe
[12:13:45] <SB-X> it sent the part to some random location surrounded by blackness
[12:13:51] <SB-X> party*
[12:14:08] <Yuv422> the other side?
[12:15:11] <SB-X> hehe... not really, it's one level down but I don't know where exactly
[12:15:31] <SB-X> 1,5b,1
[12:15:34] <SB-X> a walk through walls option would help here
[12:23:07] <Yuv422> SE has a walk through walls cheat option.
[12:43:26] <SB-X> i was able to walk through walls in original U6 by changing something in objlist file
[12:43:40] <Yuv422> cool
[12:43:51] <Yuv422> same with SE and MD I think
[12:43:58] <SB-X> probably an ethereal flag or something
[12:45:12] <SB-X> Did you ever get aiera.timeimmortal.net to load?
[12:46:15] <Yuv422> yes at work
[12:46:26] <Yuv422> by putting a ? after the url
[12:46:41] <Yuv422> it must have been stuck in my isps proxy
[12:47:22] <Yuv422> It's not working now though. :(
[12:48:14] <SB-X> wierd
[12:49:52] <SB-X> well they mentioned our last news update on the 19th
[12:50:06] <Yuv422> cool
[12:51:44] <SB-X> pentagram is also mentioned, and it says Ultima8:Exile has semi-officially been cancelled
[12:54:05] <Yuv422> why's that?
[12:55:45] <SB-X> he doesn't like NWN toolset
[12:57:58] <SB-X> have you seen this page? he links to us http://jfregnault.free.fr/index.htm
[12:58:17] <SB-X> yesterday is the first time I saw it
[12:58:26] <Yuv422> yeah
[12:58:38] <Yuv422> that's the guy with the u6 engine for windows?
[12:58:48] <SB-X> http://jfregnault.free.fr/download/U6_download.htm
[12:58:50] <SB-X> yep
[12:59:03] <SB-X> he started decoding the information before us
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[12:59:51] <SB-X> has he been here in the channel?
[13:00:04] <Yuv422> not that I know of
[13:02:51] * Yuv422 looks at a cyclops and sees the inventory doll
[13:02:55] <Yuv422> :)
[13:05:24] <SB-X> congrats
[13:05:48] <SB-X> do you see a loincloth and giant boulder or club, or is he naked?
[13:06:11] <Yuv422> he just had a mail shirt on
[13:06:36] <SB-X> oh
[13:10:01] <SB-X> I see one with an iron helmet and a hammer.
[13:10:36] <Yuv422> look doesn't print a name in nuvie at the moment
[13:10:49] <SB-X> ?
[13:11:04] <Yuv422> when you look at an actor
[13:11:14] <Yuv422> it just shows their portrait or inventory
[13:11:19] <Yuv422> with no text
[13:11:30] <SB-X> Oh!
[13:11:37] <SB-X> because you changed it?
[13:11:47] <Yuv422> I don't think so
[13:11:56] <Yuv422> well not intentionally at least
[13:11:57] <SB-X> no you're right, it didn't before
[13:12:01] <SB-X> it doesn't in my copy
[13:12:38] <SB-X> since the name is always centered you can draw it on the container widget or add another widget to it
[13:13:41] <SB-X> do you randomize equipment?
[13:13:51] <Yuv422> I will
[13:14:00] <Yuv422> I haven't started on that yet
[13:14:07] <SB-X> how is that done?
[13:14:17] <Yuv422> not sure yet
[13:15:53] <SB-X> cyclops cave isn't hard to take over :)
[13:16:00] <SB-X> cyclopses are weak
[13:16:04] <Yuv422> in nuvie?
[13:16:16] <Yuv422> or in the original?
[13:16:19] <SB-X> original
[13:16:22] <Yuv422> ah
[13:16:53] <SB-X> too bad they come back
[13:17:00] <Yuv422> could we have cyclopes generate earthquake effects?
[13:17:07] <SB-X> we already do
[13:17:11] <Yuv422> cool
[13:17:23] <SB-X> :)
[13:17:33] <SB-X> that's been in there a long time
[13:18:26] <Yuv422> whoops
[13:18:39] <SB-X> AH, a cyclops dropped a poison trapped chest! :p
[13:18:52] <Yuv422> Ouch!
[13:18:58] <SB-X> interestingly enough the only one not poisoned is Iolo who has swamp boots
[13:19:06] <Yuv422> hmm
[13:19:22] <Yuv422> we might have to change that logic in nuvie
[13:19:40] <SB-X> we don't *have* to
[13:19:57] <Yuv422> I think it would make sense to change it
[13:20:22] <Yuv422> swamp boots only protect against swamp poison.
[13:20:31] <SB-X> apparently not
[13:21:33] <SB-X> I'm not even sure the swamp boots protected him. I never knew they could... but I bet some player knew they did and will complain that his swamp boots aren't protecting him from poison traps.
[13:21:58] <SB-X> but I guess we can tell him to play u6 in dosbox
[13:22:55] <Yuv422> hehe true
[13:23:12] <Yuv422> purists :P
[13:23:19] <Yuv422> gotta love them.
[13:24:15] * SB-X eats the cyclops honey.
[13:24:40] <SB-X> oh no, one of the cyclops standing nearby didn't like that and killed the avatar in one hit
[13:24:45] <SB-X> guess they are strong after all
[13:24:57] <Yuv422> no more honey for the avatar
[13:25:10] <Yuv422> back to LB's they go!
[13:25:30] <SB-X> nah... I hear Empath Abbey produces good honey.
[13:25:53] <Yuv422> If you don't get attacked by bees.
[13:26:09] <SB-X> My swamp boots will protect me!
[13:26:45] * SB-X shrugs.
[13:26:54] <SB-X> they aren't as bad as cyclops at least
[13:27:17] <SB-X> U6O is introducing trade routes so players can buy things in one city and sell them in another to make a profit.
[13:27:57] <SB-X> there are already a few, but they are making them more profitable
[13:28:49] <Yuv422> that sounds like a good idea
[13:29:07] <Yuv422> do moon gates work in u6o?
[13:29:46] <SB-X> they'll just make certain NPCs want to pay more for certain commodities
[13:29:57] <SB-X> yeah moongates work, though not exactly like U6
[13:30:25] * Yuv422 doesn't like the orb of moons.
[13:31:10] <Yuv422> If I had my way nuvie would ship with all cheat modes disabled at compile time. ;)
[13:31:28] <SB-X> Gate Travel is pretty much useless. You don't get the Orb of the Moons until you've finished the game, and then it only lets you open a gate to places you've been before.
[13:31:34] <Yuv422> to help people stay on the straight and narrow while playing the game
[13:31:49] <SB-X> yeah, you gotta force the virtues on people
[13:32:01] <Yuv422> too right
[13:32:14] <SB-X> Thou shalt donate half thy income to charity, or thou shalt have no income.
[13:32:16] <SB-X> :)
[13:32:52] <Yuv422> you will be bound by the virtues!
[13:33:27] <SB-X> Thou shalt not cheat in Nuvie, or thou shalt not play Nuvie.
[13:33:31] <SB-X> something like that :p
[13:33:47] <Yuv422> the act of enforcing the virtues is probably not virtuous in of itself.
[13:33:55] <SB-X> who says?
[13:34:19] <SB-X> do I have to send a shadowlord to visit you?
[13:34:39] * Yuv422 hides under the desk
[13:34:54] <SB-X> you do realize they smell fear?
[13:35:05] <SB-X> that's the opposite of what you're supposed to do ;)
[13:35:36] * Yuv422 reaches around for the keyboard to continue his cvs commit.
[13:36:04] <SB-X> there you go :)
[13:36:24] <SB-X> Anyway, U6O has blue moongates too but they're use is a little different to U6.
[13:37:00] <Yuv422> blue moon gates.. we've got to fix those too.
[13:37:14] <SB-X> they're not very reliable
[13:37:30] <Yuv422> in u6o?
[13:37:42] <Yuv422> I guess they are dependant on the moon cycles.
[13:37:50] <SB-X> either U6 or U6O
[13:39:47] <Yuv422> I wonder if anyone is using the OS X snapshots I'm making
[13:39:52] <SB-X> I don't know if the moon cycles are the same in U6O as they are in U6. Everyone has their own moonstones too. (once you find them)
[13:39:58] <SB-X> yeah, someone is
[13:40:12] <Yuv422> is that someone me?
[13:40:17] <SB-X> besides you
[13:40:23] <Yuv422> oh cool
[13:40:24] <SB-X> dont people ask about them occasionally?
[13:40:40] <Yuv422> not since I started making them with my build script
[13:40:57] <SB-X> you mean recently
[13:41:08] <Yuv422> and they were all having issues because I compiled it wrongly
[13:41:10] <Yuv422> yeah
[13:42:10] <SB-X> did you resolve that bug?
[13:42:26] <SB-X> or are you waiting to see if they add a response?
[13:42:29] <Yuv422> I was compiling it with just in time liking turned on
[13:42:36] <Yuv422> linking
[13:42:42] <SB-X> ah
[13:42:47] <SB-X> is that faster?
[13:43:01] <Yuv422> so it didn't work if you didn't have the XCode development system installed
[13:43:08] <Yuv422> it's faster to link. :)
[13:43:12] <SB-X> i see
[13:43:33] <SB-X> that bug report is still open
[13:44:48] <Yuv422> I'll leave it for a little while longer
[13:45:38] <SB-X> ok
[13:45:41] <Yuv422> ok I've committed my portraitview changes
[13:46:01] <SB-X> nobody has said nuvie doesn't run on earlier versions of OSX yet, but they also havn't said it does
[13:46:07] <SB-X> cool
[13:46:14] <SB-X> does it show the name?
[13:46:37] <Yuv422> no not yet
[14:03:08] <Yuv422> I'm off now
[14:03:09] <Yuv422> cya
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