#nuvie@irc.freenode.net logs for 25 Oct 2004 (GMT)

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[03:59:42] * Sheng_Gradilla is away: No estoy
[08:07:03] <sbx> the tiny font is so tiny :)
[08:15:55] <sbx> that's a good thing, but it is completely unreadable at 1x scale
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[11:01:56] <Yuv422> hello
[11:24:23] <sbx> hi!
[11:25:08] <sbx> what have you been up to? :)
[11:30:22] <Sheng_Gradilla> :)
[11:41:52] <Yuv422> ping
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[11:42:13] <Yuv422> Argh!
[11:42:13] <sbx> hi
[11:42:17] <Yuv422> hi sbx
[11:42:18] <sbx> Aiii!
[11:42:29] <Yuv422> my irc was playing up again. :(
[11:42:42] <sbx> ugh
[11:42:45] <sbx> you still havn't shaken that
[11:42:50] <Yuv422> nope
[11:43:09] <Yuv422> I might ring my modem manufacturer and ask them about it
[11:43:21] * Sheng_Gradilla is back (gone 07:43:37)
[11:43:26] <sbx> don't know if that would help
[11:43:30] <Yuv422> not too sure if their firewall is irc friendly
[11:43:59] <Yuv422> looks like my connection stayed up this time
[11:44:15] <Yuv422> but I didn't receive your text.
[11:44:35] <sbx> :\
[11:44:37] <Sheng_Gradilla> Hello Yuv422
[11:44:58] <sbx> did you read past logs?
[11:45:02] <sbx> i might have had a question or two
[11:45:14] <sbx> but no activity in here for a while
[11:48:02] <Yuv422> 6.2.6) Nuvie
[11:48:02] <Yuv422> This U6 remake aims to get the original game running natively on
[11:48:02] <Yuv422> modern platforms. It adds some nice bells and whistles, too, such
[11:48:02] <Yuv422> as support for speech if you have the FM Towns version of U6 (see
[11:48:02] <Yuv422> Section 5.10.4). Find out more from the project's website,
[11:48:02] <Yuv422> http://nuvie.sourceforge.net/
[11:48:33] <sbx> yeah nuvie is awesome
[11:50:00] <Sheng_Gradilla> where is that?
[11:50:00] <Yuv422> we got into the rec.games.computer.ultima FAQ
[11:50:35] <sbx> wow
[11:50:52] <sbx> bout time XD
[11:50:55] <sbx> no, thats great news
[11:51:21] <Yuv422> http://www.daisho.plus.com/rgcu-faq/rgcu-faq.txt
[11:53:24] <Yuv422> this is really frustrating I can only see your replies in the weblog
[11:54:07] <Yuv422> maybe I need an ident server
[11:54:19] <sbx> how would that affect it?
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[11:54:45] <sbx> i dont use identd
[11:54:51] <Yuv422> ah k
[11:55:03] <Yuv422> resetting and now I can see replies
[11:55:09] <sbx> :)
[11:55:27] <Yuv422> do you know where I can get info on setting up a firewall for irc
[11:55:28] <Yuv422> ?
[11:55:37] <sbx> no I bet Sheng_Gradilla knows
[11:55:59] <Yuv422> Sheng?
[11:56:06] <Yuv422> any thoughts? ;)
[11:56:26] <Sheng_Gradilla> mm
[11:56:51] <Sheng_Gradilla> firewalls for IRC? You mean one that allows identd requests?
[11:57:19] <sbx> bbs
[11:57:21] <Sheng_Gradilla> If that were necesary, you would not even be connected, the server would have rejected your connection
[11:57:31] <Sheng_Gradilla> this server does not require identd
[11:59:53] <Sheng_Gradilla> the other thing that needs to be configured on the firewall is the DCC port range
[12:00:01] <Sheng_Gradilla> for DCC Sending
[12:02:55] <Sheng_Gradilla> for DCC Receiving, it doesn't need any configuration
[12:02:55] <Sheng_Gradilla> the truth is they should be called DCC Serve and DCC Download instead
[12:02:55] <Yuv422> hmm
[12:02:55] <Sheng_Gradilla> the "sender" is really just opening a port and awaiting a connection
[12:02:55] <Yuv422> why do I silently get disconnected all the time?
[12:02:55] <Sheng_Gradilla> what kind of modem is it?
[12:02:55] <Yuv422> or I'm still connected but my irc messages never arrive
[12:02:55] <Yuv422> It's a ADSL router/modem
[12:02:55] <Yuv422> with firewall / 4 port switch wireless etc.
[12:02:55] <Sheng_Gradilla> D-Link? :)
[12:04:07] <Yuv422> nah it's an australian brand
[12:04:11] <Yuv422> netcomm
[12:04:22] <Sheng_Gradilla> and are you sure it's a modem?
[12:04:32] <Sheng_Gradilla> modems are usually a separate device
[12:04:52] <Yuv422> yeah it's a modem
[12:05:38] <Sheng_Gradilla> does it have a manual?
[12:05:50] <Sheng_Gradilla> you may need to lower the MTU
[12:06:03] <Yuv422> maybe I need to enable ping
[12:06:17] <Sheng_Gradilla> hmm'
[12:06:24] <Sheng_Gradilla> that could be
[12:07:00] <Yuv422> MTU 1492
[12:07:37] <Sheng_Gradilla> enabled ping already?
[12:10:08] <Yuv422> hmm I can't see responses anymore
[12:10:32] <Sheng_Gradilla> you say it's a router?
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[12:11:28] <sbx> hi
[12:11:31] <Sheng_Gradilla> you say it's a router?
[12:13:33] <Sheng_Gradilla> you are not responding to my ping requests
[12:13:48] <Sheng_Gradilla> do not filter requests from outside
[12:13:57] <sbx> Sheng_Gradilla: you respond to my pings
[12:14:23] <Sheng_Gradilla> filtering requests from outside will screw up many things
[12:15:01] <Sheng_Gradilla> if it is a router, you are pretty much safe even if you disable the firewall
[12:15:35] <Sheng_Gradilla> a router won't let anything malicious reach your computer, even with firewall disabled
[12:16:24] <Sheng_Gradilla> you have to specifically tell the router if any requests at all are redirected to your computer
[12:16:53] <Sheng_Gradilla> I am behind a router, and it responds to pings and stuff
[12:21:41] <Yuv422> hmm
[12:21:51] <Yuv422> everything came in when I disabled my firewall
[12:21:58] <sbx> :)
[12:22:03] <Yuv422> try pinging now
[12:22:26] <sbx> --- Ping reply from Yuv422 : 0.92 second(s)
[12:24:55] <Yuv422> hmm
[12:27:33] <Yuv422> ok I've turned the firewall back on but left icmp on
[12:27:37] <sbx> --- Received a CTCP PING 1098707229 80346 from Yuv422
[12:27:55] <wjp> icmp and irc pings are unrelated
[12:28:08] <Yuv422> ah k
[12:28:08] <Sheng_Gradilla> you disabled icmp?!
[12:28:19] <Yuv422> it disabled by default
[12:28:32] <Yuv422> wjp: is irc ping via tcp?
[12:29:24] <Yuv422> ping exultbot CTCP PING reply from exultbot: -1096.852 seconds
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[12:30:15] <sbx> hi Fl00der
[12:30:22] <Fl00der> hi
[12:31:33] <Sheng_Gradilla> those who sleep with infants are dragged by the current
[12:31:35] <Sheng_Gradilla> :P
[12:31:49] <Fl00der> :P
[12:32:10] <Sheng_Gradilla> pee :P
[12:32:27] <sbx> eh
[12:32:30] <sbx> k :)
[12:33:24] <sbx> i got it :)
[12:33:32] * Yuv422 will stop pinging now. ;)
[12:33:38] <sbx> thanks
[12:33:50] <Yuv422> it went from 14 sec
[12:33:54] <Yuv422> to .6 sec
[12:34:18] <Yuv422> ok now I'm only allowing icmp port 8
[12:34:46] <wjp> Yuv422: an IRC ping is just an irc command
[12:34:55] <Yuv422> hmm
[12:35:11] <Yuv422> but if I disable icmp it stops working
[12:35:55] <Yuv422> or does it
[12:36:02] <Yuv422> hmm that's strange
[12:36:26] <wjp> -1000 second to exultbot?
[12:36:42] <wjp> sbx, Sheng_Gradilla: do you get weird pings from exultbot too?
[12:36:52] <sbx> nope :)
[12:37:11] <Yuv422> CTCP PING reply from exultbot: -1096.908 seconds
[12:37:42] <Yuv422> CTCP PING reply from ChanServ: 0.612 seconds
[12:38:25] <wjp> strange
[12:39:07] <Fl00der> hmm...I don't get anything
[12:39:25] <Sheng_Gradilla> --- Ping reply from exultbot : 0.72 second(s)
[12:39:30] <sbx> --- Ping reply from exultbot : 0.74 second(s)
[12:39:53] <Sheng_Gradilla> --- Ping reply from exultbot : 12.34 second(s)
[12:39:57] <Sheng_Gradilla> --- Ping reply from exultbot : 1.90 second(s)
[12:40:06] <sbx> X-Ray Linux Penguin On Your Desktop
[12:40:06] <sbx> http://www.nwc.com/showitem.jhtml?docid=1502lastmile_penguin
[12:40:44] <Yuv422> interesting
[12:40:49] <Yuv422> I can ftp to my modem
[12:40:59] <Yuv422> looks like it runs vxworks
[12:42:08] <Yuv422> 923446 Jan-01-1980 00:00:04 VXWORKS.Z
[12:46:29] <sbx> im going to sleep
[12:46:31] <sbx> bye for now
[12:46:33] --- sbx is now known as sbx|afk
[12:48:30] <Yuv422> cya
[12:50:50] <Sheng_Gradilla> there is a Windows binary of UCR, and it no longer needs all Ultimas
[12:51:27] <Sheng_Gradilla> but I don't know if the fix for those who don't have all Ultimas was incorporated in the source package currently at the page
[12:51:27] <wjp> oh, I see; exultbot only returns the first word of a PING message, not all of it
[12:51:39] <wjp> that's probably causing those strange times
[12:54:34] <wjp> next time I restart exultbot it should be fixed
[12:54:49] <Yuv422> cool
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[13:30:51] <Yuv422> time for bed
[13:30:52] <Yuv422> cya
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[23:50:00] <sbx|afk> :)
[23:50:05] <sbx|afk> going to play Arcanum
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