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[11:46:47] <SB-X> Hello.
[11:46:55] <Yuv422> hey
[11:47:09] <Yuv422> I'm removing objblk_n from obj
[11:47:11] <Yuv422> :-)
[11:47:12] <SB-X> what's up?
[11:47:15] <SB-X> hmm
[11:47:15] <SB-X> ok
[11:47:26] <Yuv422> and adding nuvie_status
[11:47:31] <SB-X> not like we ever use it
[11:47:48] <Yuv422> no it is only used for load and save
[11:47:56] <Yuv422> which we can do in other ways
[11:48:49] <SB-X> yeah we read to it only to get the parent object, and set it just to write the value :p
[11:49:05] <Yuv422> I'm adding the nuvie_status so we can work out if an object is on the map
[11:49:09] <Yuv422> or used in lua
[11:49:19] <SB-X> so we don't need to keep a member variable just for that, when we have the parent object set in another variable :)
[11:49:21] <SB-X> ok
[11:49:24] <Yuv422> it will be another bit field
[11:49:26] <SB-X> is it a boolean?
[11:49:27] <SB-X> oh ok
[11:50:00] <Yuv422> I'm going to simplify my script obj connections
[11:52:54] <Yuv422> how's things with you? :)
[11:55:52] <SB-X> oh im ok, thanks
[11:55:57] <SB-X> im going to work on nuvie a bit now
[11:56:26] <Yuv422> cool
[11:56:31] <SB-X> i'll commit my changes to ERIC_SCRIPTING_BRANCH and the main branch
[11:56:40] <Yuv422> righto
[11:56:47] <SB-X> or was it ERIC_SCRIPT_BRANCH
[11:56:57] * Yuv422 checks
[11:57:01] <SB-X> hehe
[11:57:13] <Yuv422> SCRIPTING
[11:57:15] <Yuv422> :)
[11:57:17] <SB-X> hehe ok
[11:57:27] <Yuv422> thanks for the double commit
[11:57:27] <SB-X> thanks
[11:57:33] <SB-X> you're welcome
[11:57:57] <Yuv422> I'm going to have a big merge after all this scripting is done
[11:58:12] <SB-X> yes it should make merging easier
[11:58:18] <Yuv422> did you see my post about containers in the forum?
[11:58:26] <Yuv422> we don't search desks at the moment
[11:58:32] <Yuv422> I've added it to my branch
[11:58:32] <SB-X> nope, havnt looked at the forum in a long time actually
[11:58:43] <SB-X> right
[11:58:45] <SB-X> ok
[11:58:59] <Yuv422> but it looks like the original searched anything that had a container
[11:59:06] <SB-X> yep
[11:59:44] <SB-X> i tested that in the original once by moving an object in the objblk into a flag
[12:00:02] <SB-X> looking at the flag searched and revealed the object
[12:02:19] <SB-X> hmm, 6 threads have new messages
[12:02:35] <SB-X> new posts
[12:02:42] <SB-X> since I last looked at the forum
[12:09:10] <Yuv422> :)
[12:12:16] <SB-X> "Unfortunately, Japanese is a little difficult."
[12:12:49] <SB-X> yay
[12:13:36] <Yuv422> you can read that?
[12:13:38] <Yuv422> nice?
[12:13:41] <Yuv422> nice!
[12:13:42] <Yuv422> hehe
[12:15:09] <SB-X> yeah, that's why I said yay, since I havn't really been studying Japanese enough lately and still got it
[12:15:20] <Yuv422> cool
[12:15:34] <SB-X> "But my Japanese is very warui. ;)" ???
[12:15:34] <Yuv422> I wish I knew another language
[12:15:48] <Yuv422> poor?
[12:15:50] <Yuv422> bad?
[12:15:54] <SB-X> yes, hehe
[12:15:55] <Yuv422> basic?
[12:16:00] <Yuv422> ah k
[12:16:01] <Yuv422> ;-)
[12:16:04] * SB-X looks up warui. -> "But my Japanese is very bad. ;)"
[12:17:45] <SB-X> I won't mention that I was planning to add some localization support at the same time as removing hardcoding text from the engine and putting it into datafiles, because that's not going to happen for a while.
[12:18:15] <Yuv422> how do you say "my Japanese is non-existent"?
[12:18:19] <SB-X> luteijn told me the same thing he posted in the thread when I gave him my suggestion for translating text files :)
[12:19:15] <Yuv422> 私の日本人は非存在である
[12:19:28] <SB-X> i only see that as random garbage
[12:19:35] <Yuv422> :(
[12:21:18] <SB-X> i had to look that up, wwjdic says aryashinai or arihashinai means "doesn't even exist"
[12:21:41] <Yuv422> ah k
[12:22:16] <Yuv422> I have trouble remembering English let alone another language. :(
[12:23:09] <Yuv422> http://kldp.org/node/47593
[12:23:12] <SB-X> lol
[12:23:58] <Yuv422> this guys has 3724 GP
[12:24:04] <Yuv422> -s
[12:25:04] <SB-X> what
[12:25:06] <SB-X> i can't read that
[12:25:19] <Yuv422> http://kldp.org/files/xxx_584.jpg
[12:25:54] <SB-X> ah k, sorry :)
[12:26:08] <SB-X> i did see that link but wasn't sure if that's what you meant
[12:26:09] <Yuv422> what!? you can't read korean!
[12:26:19] <Yuv422> ;-)
[12:26:32] <SB-X> nope! can you?
[12:26:36] <Yuv422> hehe no
[12:26:44] <SB-X> oh, that's right
[12:26:48] <SB-X> looks like he uses Blackbox
[12:27:02] <SB-X> i never saved up that much gold, because I was always spending it
[12:27:16] <SB-X> at least not in one pile
[12:27:29] <Yuv422> that's a pretty old version
[12:27:40] <Yuv422> no icons on the bottom
[12:27:51] <SB-X> oh
[12:27:59] <SB-X> he probably spammed it then
[12:28:11] <SB-X> but at least it's after you added 16bit quantity
[12:28:25] <Yuv422> hehe yeah
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[12:44:44] <SB-X> haha, neat trick
[12:45:08] <SB-X> Yuv422_: im talking about your post about containers now
[12:45:19] <Yuv422_> ah k
[12:45:20] <SB-X> i didnt know the original had any contained items like that
[12:45:29] <Yuv422_> yeah neither did I
[12:45:30] <SB-X> although I knew it was possible
[12:45:38] <Yuv422_> till I saw it in my objlist
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[12:47:01] <SB-X> cool
[12:47:18] <Yuv422> I haven't checked for any more
[12:47:35] <SB-X> I just reproduced the "bug". They probably wanted to put the rolling pin in the desk?
[12:47:55] <Yuv422> yeah
[12:49:00] <SB-X> the post title might make someone think you found lock picks that unlock magically locked doors ;)
[12:49:17] <Yuv422> ;-)
[13:46:48] <SB-X> BRB
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[14:04:09] <SB-X> i'm back
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[14:06:31] <SB-X> :(
[14:06:33] <SB-X> :)
[14:07:39] <luteijn> actually that post-title made me think of lockpicks that were somehow better at opening doors too.
[14:08:01] <Yuv422> hehe sorry for the confusion
[14:08:23] <SB-X> yes its a good selling line! "New MAGIC lock-picks"
[14:08:39] <SB-X> np
[14:08:42] <Yuv422> only $1.50 at the Nuvie giftshop!
[14:08:46] <SB-X> lol
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[14:08:56] <SB-X> no confusion really
[14:09:06] <SB-X> Hi, laxdragon.
[14:09:20] <Yuv422> I just adding a comment to the progress report about searching containers
[14:09:22] <laxdragon> hi there.
[14:09:25] <Yuv422> hi laxdragon
[14:09:34] <Yuv422> hi luteijn :)
[14:09:53] <laxdragon> just got back from my trip to the UK, catching up on a ton of email.
[14:10:15] <Yuv422> nice
[14:10:26] <Yuv422> business or pleasure?
[14:11:16] <laxdragon> both, we had wineconf in Reading, then I spend the rest of the week touring the country.
[14:11:56] <Yuv422> shouldn't you hold a wine conf in France? Joking! ;-)
[14:13:32] <laxdragon> heh, only if we get a volunteer to arrange it. Last year was Germany, this year Englad, next year, undecided. I'm voting for Hawaii.
[14:13:52] <Yuv422> what about Aus
[14:13:57] <Yuv422> :)
[14:14:05] <Yuv422> Australia that is
[14:14:09] <Yuv422> not Austria
[14:14:13] <SB-X> Oz
[14:14:19] <Yuv422> although that would be good too. ;-)
[14:15:20] <Yuv422> I heard that NuvieCon 2007 is going to be held in Iceland!
[14:15:39] <SB-X> lol
[14:15:51] <SB-X> You heard? Wouldn't you be running it?
[14:16:01] <Yuv422> hehe oh yeah.
[14:16:11] <SB-X> I can't make it this year, unfortunately.
[14:16:12] <Yuv422> I'm calling for papers at the moment.
[14:16:23] <Yuv422> ;-)
[14:16:33] <Yuv422> lucky it's next then isn't it. ;-)
[14:16:51] <SB-X> oh, yeah
[14:17:27] <Yuv422> I'm hiring out a couple of lecture theatres.
[14:17:35] <Yuv422> we'll even have a video projector
[14:17:40] <SB-X> lol
[14:17:43] <Yuv422> and nuvie t-shirts
[14:18:16] <laxdragon> iceland air is a nice airline, flew on them a few times. ;-)
[14:18:33] <Yuv422> to iceland?
[14:18:46] <Yuv422> ;-)
[14:19:04] <SB-X> is there a package deal available with the hotel room paid for?
[14:19:22] <Yuv422> I'm trying to get iceland air to be the official carrier for NuvieCON
[14:19:30] <SB-X> http://www.eve-online.com/fanfest/2006/
[14:19:32] <laxdragon> to Germany, layover in iceland.
[14:21:05] <Yuv422> NuvieCon will be hossted in 1/2 star luxury!
[14:21:27] <Yuv422> $15.95USD per person per night
[14:21:49] <Yuv422> + $20USD if you want a heated room.
[14:22:29] <SB-X> I just remembered, I can't make it next year either. I'll be at the EVE Online Fanfest 2007. :p
[14:22:53] <Yuv422> but isn't that also in iceland?
[14:23:04] <Yuv422> ;-)
[14:23:30] <Yuv422> Don't worry about me! I can play nuvie all by my self. :-P
[14:23:36] <Yuv422> at NuvieCon
[14:24:28] <Yuv422> I'm not too sure if I'll bother giving a keynote speech though. If I'm the only attendee.
[14:25:40] <SB-X> Unless you plan on adding networking to Nuvie so teams can play in LAN games, playing all by yourself is all you can do anyway. :P
[14:25:56] <Yuv422> hehe true
[14:26:21] <Yuv422> but others could watch me play it on a projector. :-P
[14:26:40] <SB-X> what fun
[14:27:17] <SB-X> hmm, you could put a recording of you playing on YouTube or Google Video in the meantime
[14:27:17] <Yuv422> **Warning** sarcasm detected in #Nuvie
[14:27:41] <SB-X> no it wasn't sarcasm I was asking the obvious question "what fun?"
[14:28:10] <SB-X> because that doesn't sound fun
[14:28:12] <Yuv422> hehe... of course
[14:28:20] <SB-X> (hehe, ok it was sarcasm too)
[14:28:25] <Yuv422> :)
[14:29:02] <SB-X> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=197918242023412420&q=Ultima
[14:29:09] <Yuv422> Can you imagine all the flaming that would go on if I released a video of myself playing nuvie on youtube
[14:29:29] <Yuv422> "OMG I just wasted 3 minutes of my life on this video!!"
[14:30:05] <SB-X> heh, that's why i dont read the comments
[14:30:23] <SB-X> the one i just linked to is almost 5 minutes
[14:31:27] <Yuv422> it reminds me of quake done quicker
[14:31:38] <Yuv422> or should I say U8 done quicker
[14:31:55] <SB-X> it's not even a straight runthrough, it's been edited
[14:33:02] <SB-X> I'm not even sure why it was edited at those particular spots, it just looks random.
[14:33:23] <SB-X> there's the map changes too, those aren't edits
[14:33:41] <SB-X> i thought they were at first
[14:33:45] <Yuv422> yeah looks a bit choppy
[14:35:15] <SB-X> er, he was killed and quit
[14:35:20] <SB-X> that was pointless
[14:35:37] <SB-X> OMG I just wasted 5 minutes of my life on this video!!
[14:36:30] <SB-X> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4045313454381946600&q=Ultima
[14:38:15] <SB-X> How to create L-shape stairs in Ultima Online: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4083916476866704186&q=Ultima
[14:39:28] <Yuv422> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8VZ9zEx5Dg
[14:43:34] <SB-X> wow
[14:43:42] <SB-X> that looks more fun than a barrel of monkeys
[14:43:57] <SB-X> suupaa monkiibaaru
[14:44:09] <Yuv422> I've got supermonkey ball for the GC
[14:44:19] <Yuv422> it's a fun little game
[14:44:23] <SB-X> cool
[14:48:07] <Yuv422> we need to be able to search harpsichords
[14:49:07] <SB-X> is super monkeyball more fun than donkey konga? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=258574691802786071
[14:49:35] <SB-X> Donkey Kong Jungle Beat?
[14:50:27] <Yuv422> looks like fun for the whole family
[14:50:37] <Yuv422> I remember seeing that in the shops here
[14:50:43] <Yuv422> I haven't played it though
[14:51:09] <SB-X> lol, yeah
[14:51:15] <SB-X> i've never seen it except in that commercial
[14:51:30] <SB-X> there is also a commercial on google video for mario vs donkey kong
[14:55:29] <SB-X> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5272795191502210017
[14:56:04] <SB-X> Mario looks like he does in Mario 64.
[14:57:36] <Yuv422> looks fun
[14:58:50] <SB-X> Isn't that what you have?
[14:59:54] <Yuv422> I don't have that game
[15:00:30] <SB-X> What do you have?
[15:00:49] <Yuv422> I have a few mario games for gba
[15:00:54] <Yuv422> mario sunshine
[15:01:33] <Yuv422> new super mario bros ds
[15:02:25] <SB-X> I'm thinking of the donkey kong one.
[15:03:12] <Yuv422> oh the game & watch
[15:03:23] <Yuv422> :)
[15:03:36] <SB-X> ah k, i was thinking of the watch game :p
[15:03:59] <Yuv422> do you think this is too long?
[15:04:01] <Yuv422> NUVIE_OBJ_STATUS_SCRIPTING
[15:04:03] <SB-X> it doesn't look that nice actually
[15:04:19] <SB-X> (talking about the watch game compared to mario vs donkey kong)
[15:04:44] <SB-X> no I guess it's not too long, because I'm not sure how else you'd name it
[15:04:52] <SB-X> NUVIE_OBJ_STATUS_SCRIPT_ONLY is longer
[15:05:15] <SB-X> you could just do OBJ_STATUS
[15:05:47] <SB-X> we know set of flags it's used for
[15:06:01] <SB-X> we know which set flags it's used for*
[15:12:04] <Yuv422> It might not be script only though
[15:12:15] <Yuv422> It just means that the script is using it
[15:12:35] <Yuv422> if it is script and not no map or inv then it would be script only
[15:12:45] <Yuv422> no = on
[15:12:56] <Yuv422> right I'm off to bed
[15:13:07] <Yuv422> 1:15 is too late for a weeknight. ;-)
[15:13:14] <Yuv422> cya :)
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[18:51:49] <SB-X> cya
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