#nuvie@irc.freenode.net logs for 26 Sep 2004 (GMT)

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[09:56:19] <sbx|afk> hi yuv
[09:56:25] <Yuv422> hi sbx
[09:56:30] <sbx|afk> I was abotu to go to sleep
[09:56:30] <Yuv422> How's things?
[09:56:34] <Yuv422> :)
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[09:56:53] <Yuv422> servus's 3d exult looks good
[09:57:28] <sbx|afk> hehe
[09:57:34] <sbx|afk> Im glad you noticed
[09:57:48] <sbx|afk> else I would mention it
[09:58:06] <Yuv422> I wonder if he'll let me compile it on OS X
[09:58:09] <sbx|afk> I was trying to make a transparent button, do you know how to do that?
[09:58:20] <Yuv422> in nuvie?
[09:58:36] <sbx|afk> he only let me dl a binary
[09:58:36] <sbx|afk> yes
[09:58:53] <sbx|afk> if not really transparent, than to borrow the parent's bg_color
[09:59:05] <Yuv422> hmm not too sure
[09:59:16] <Yuv422> I'll have a think about it
[09:59:25] <Yuv422> brb just getting some food
[10:39:26] <sbx|afk> goin to sleep
[10:39:39] <sbx|afk> bye
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[12:09:50] * Sheng_Gradilla is back (gone 07:30:53)
[12:10:08] <Yuv422> hi Sheng
[12:10:21] <Sheng_Gradilla> hello :)
[12:10:58] <Sheng_Gradilla> http://ucr.exahost.net
[12:11:03] <Sheng_Gradilla> does it compile on Mac?
[12:11:27] <Sheng_Gradilla> Dino was having problems compiling it on Windows
[12:11:37] <Sheng_Gradilla> I didn't have any problems on Linux
[12:11:54] * Yuv422 tries
[12:12:08] <Yuv422> hmm I need SDL_image
[12:13:03] <Yuv422> I can't see why this guy would want to remake u6 from scratch
[12:13:40] <Sheng_Gradilla> I guess he doesn't know much about this project
[12:13:49] <Sheng_Gradilla> you should reach him as I did
[12:15:31] <Yuv422> just doing U6 will be a big task in itself
[12:15:36] <Yuv422> but to do all 7
[12:16:09] <Sheng_Gradilla> step by step :P
[12:16:26] <Sheng_Gradilla> his current progress is full Akalabet and partial U1
[12:16:35] <Yuv422> maybe he has a lot of free time! ;)
[12:18:03] <Sheng_Gradilla> I think it should be great if this project goes as far as U2
[12:18:15] <Sheng_Gradilla> since there are U3Project, xu4 and so on
[12:18:37] <Yuv422> yeah
[12:20:15] <Sheng_Gradilla> and for the other Ultimas, he could just do some loader for those other engines
[12:20:38] <Sheng_Gradilla> as he mentions for exult
[12:20:48] <Yuv422> from what I can gather he is planning to write his own engines
[12:21:17] <Sheng_Gradilla> the code isn't very pretty
[12:22:49] <Sheng_Gradilla> it's not fully OO
[12:23:42] <Yuv422> :(
[12:24:05] <Sheng_Gradilla> and I am so used to the Java Coding Standard :P
[12:24:29] <Sheng_Gradilla> is it the one you are using for nuvie?
[12:24:40] <Sheng_Gradilla> if not, it seems much alike
[12:24:49] <Yuv422> hehe coding standard!? ;)
[12:25:15] <Sheng_Gradilla> :D
[12:25:22] <Yuv422> I'm currently using the 'Eric' coding standard.
[12:25:35] <Yuv422> wether that is any good, who knows. ;)
[12:25:58] <Sheng_Gradilla> it's easy to navigate
[12:26:28] <Yuv422> that's good to hear
[12:29:02] <Sheng_Gradilla> http://gee.cs.oswego.edu/dl/html/javaCodingStd.html
[12:29:07] <Sheng_Gradilla> so much alike
[12:30:05] <Sheng_Gradilla> the differences are mainly consequences of language differences
[12:31:04] <Yuv422> is nu5 at the coding stage?
[12:31:43] <Yuv422> I got an original U5 from ebay
[12:31:57] <Yuv422> not too sure How I'm going to get it onto the mac though. ;)
[12:33:54] <Sheng_Gradilla> we are dividing the project in three parts: a server, a client, and a communication library
[12:34:27] <Sheng_Gradilla> the communication library will depend on EXMLSLib, a library we are going to develop
[12:35:27] <Sheng_Gradilla> we are doing that first
[12:35:38] <Sheng_Gradilla> Encrypted XML Socket Library
[12:35:52] <Yuv422> ah k
[12:36:02] <Yuv422> I was going to ask what that stood for.
[12:36:38] <Sheng_Gradilla> then I can poke some 3D programmer on the ribs and tempt him/her to do a 3D client :P
[12:37:43] <Yuv422> hmm who could that be! ;)
[12:37:48] <Sheng_Gradilla> :D
[12:39:07] <Sheng_Gradilla> Mm... does Bochs work on Mac?
[12:39:19] <Yuv422> yes
[12:39:28] <Yuv422> but dosbox is faster
[12:39:29] <Sheng_Gradilla> does it run U5?
[12:39:32] <Sheng_Gradilla> ah
[12:39:48] <Sheng_Gradilla> Dosbox has some problems with the patched U5
[12:39:52] <Yuv422> I use dosbox to test things in the original U6
[12:39:55] <Yuv422> ah k
[12:40:20] <Sheng_Gradilla> if you add Voyager Dragon's music patch, it won't run on Dosbox
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[12:52:33] <Yuv422> hmm
[12:52:45] <Yuv422> I can compile ucr
[12:52:58] <Yuv422> but I don;t have data files for all the games so it segfaults
[12:53:13] <Yuv422> G5:~/Ultima/remakes/ultima eric$ ./ucr
[12:53:13] <Yuv422> Opened audio at 44100 Hz 16 bit stereo, 4096 bytes audio buffer
[12:53:13] <Yuv422> cannot open games/u4/title.ega
[12:53:13] <Yuv422> cannot open games/u5/ultima.16
[12:53:13] <Yuv422> cannot open games/u5/ultima.16
[12:53:14] <Yuv422> cannot open games/u6/worldmap.bmp
[12:53:16] <Yuv422> Fatal signal: Bus Error (SDL Parachute Deployed)
[12:53:51] <Sheng_Gradilla> hehehehehe
[12:54:15] <Sheng_Gradilla> which ones do you have?
[12:54:47] <Yuv422> U5,U6,MD,U7,SI,U8
[12:55:08] <Sheng_Gradilla> you can download U4 legally :P
[12:55:15] <Yuv422> U6 JAP superfamicom
[12:55:21] <Yuv422> FM-Towns U6
[12:55:27] <Sheng_Gradilla> nice
[12:55:51] <Yuv422> how about yourself?
[12:56:59] <Sheng_Gradilla> I got the UC CD, U3 and U4 for NES, U6 for Amiga, SI without SS, U8 CD, U9
[12:57:14] <Sheng_Gradilla> and the downloaded U4
[12:57:52] <Yuv422> cool
[12:58:07] <Sheng_Gradilla> U6 for Amiga came with a cardboard paper map
[12:58:35] <Yuv422> :(
[12:58:39] <Sheng_Gradilla> according to Underworld Dragon's Notable Ultima, that's how that version came
[12:58:48] <Yuv422> I've actually got three original PC U6's
[12:59:45] <Yuv422> I've got a compendium with two covers stapled together
[12:59:59] <Sheng_Gradilla> :P
[13:01:37] <Sheng_Gradilla> Hmm... I could sell my U8 CD once pentagram is at ~80% of the U8 functionality implemented...
[13:02:00] <Sheng_Gradilla> at that time there would be a lot of interest
[13:35:24] <Yuv422> bed time
[13:35:25] <Yuv422> cya
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[22:32:23] <Sheng_Gradilla> :)
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