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[01:03:05] <dungy> Hey, this is Dungy. I'm a contributor over at the Ultima Codex. I was wondering if some of the Nuvie contributors would be interested in doing a brief interview at some point.
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[11:45:02] <Yuv422> hey TheCycoONE
[11:45:11] <TheCycoONE> hello
[11:47:42] <TheCycoONE> Yuv422: Are you Australian?
[11:47:52] <Yuv422> yup
[11:48:08] <Yuv422> I live in Sydney
[11:48:53] <TheCycoONE> spiffy, does explain the hours you're on :)
[11:48:59] <Yuv422> hehe
[11:49:17] <Yuv422> yeah 9:49PM here atm
[11:49:31] <TheCycoONE> 7:46am
[11:49:42] <Yuv422> US?
[11:49:55] <TheCycoONE> Canada, near Toronto
[11:50:00] <Yuv422> ah k
[11:50:04] <Yuv422> sorry. ;-)
[11:51:41] <TheCycoONE> no worries
[11:52:08] <Yuv422> I'd like to vist canada some time
[11:52:17] <Yuv422> do some skiing. :-)
[11:52:31] <TheCycoONE> Ah.. I was going to say, people keep saying that and I don't know why
[11:52:51] <Yuv422> hehe
[11:53:13] <Yuv422> skiing is pretty rubbish here in australia
[11:53:16] <TheCycoONE> Over in the rockies then?
[11:53:26] <Yuv422> yeah
[11:53:59] <TheCycoONE> I've never actually been. It's cheaper to get to California from here than British Columbia
[11:54:10] <TheCycoONE> which seems very strange to me
[11:55:16] <Yuv422> A lot of aussies go to japan to ski
[11:55:31] <Yuv422> or New Zealand
[11:56:37] <TheCycoONE> How does one get into skiing without anywhere to ski nearby?
[11:57:07] <TheCycoONE> I just figured Canadians did winter sports because they were convenient -
[11:57:18] <Yuv422> you can ski in australia
[11:57:25] <TheCycoONE> ah, just no good hills
[11:57:42] <TheCycoONE> I think switzerland would be a pretty cool place to ski
[11:57:44] <Yuv422> the snow is about a 5 1/2 hour drive from sydney though
[11:58:06] <Yuv422> yeah I'd love to ski over there too
[12:00:05] <TheCycoONE> I grew up in a snow belt, so there were 3 resorts within a half hour, but they weren't mountains or anything. Actually I only snow tubed at them - I've never downhill skiied.
[12:00:23] <Yuv422> ah k
[12:00:54] <TheCycoONE> probably should some day
[12:01:10] <TheCycoONE> or snow board... that seems to be pretty popular
[12:01:17] <Yuv422> I can imagine you look at snow in a different light when you have to live with it day after day
[12:04:42] <TheCycoONE> We don't get much snow where I lI don't know, we have people that can't wait for it to go away, and people who are really excited about skiing or snow mobileing or whatever.
[12:04:53] <TheCycoONE> yey for switching thoughts in the middle
[12:05:21] <TheCycoONE> a - where I live now doesn't get enough snow to do anything except mess up traffic
[12:05:31] <TheCycoONE> b - some people love it, some people hate it
[12:17:11] <TheCycoONE> how's the world there?
[12:17:22] <Yuv422> nice. :-)
[12:18:05] <Yuv422> it's about 14degC outside
[12:18:16] <TheCycoONE> cool winter, good for sitting inside writing nuvie?
[12:18:30] <Yuv422> hehe yeah
[12:18:58] <Yuv422> nice cool blue sky days though
[12:19:14] <TheCycoONE> aw...I miss 14C. 21C here already and it's going to 32 today
[12:19:45] <Yuv422> yeah that's no fun
[12:19:50] <Yuv422> do you have aircon?
[12:20:05] <TheCycoONE> no, the office does though
[12:20:20] <Yuv422> hehe one plus for going to work
[12:20:35] <TheCycoONE> yes
[12:21:08] <TheCycoONE> don't mind staying long days in a heat wave :)
[12:22:44] <TheCycoONE> I should maybe get a portable sometime. It's become more a matter of stubborn pride than anything else now. (I didn't have a/c growing up and I don't need one now!)
[12:23:35] <TheCycoONE> on the other hand, it gets me to the beach - otherwise I'd be even more pastey white than I already am
[12:24:00] <Yuv422> hehe
[12:24:11] <Yuv422> yeah I don't have a/c either
[12:24:52] <TheCycoONE> how hot does it get there in the summer?
[12:25:06] <Yuv422> 30+
[12:25:19] <Yuv422> here in sydney
[12:25:22] <TheCycoONE> about the same then
[12:25:30] <TheCycoONE> I would have assumed hotter
[12:25:34] <Yuv422> it can get a lot hotter in other parts
[12:25:46] <TheCycoONE> right, you're pretty close to the ocean
[12:25:52] <Yuv422> I'm by the coast so that keeps things cooler
[12:26:06] <Yuv422> inland or up north it gets very hot
[12:26:58] <TheCycoONE> how cold does it get in the winter then?
[12:27:39] <Yuv422> here in sydney it might get down to about 5
[12:27:52] <Yuv422> probably around 10 at night on avg
[12:28:03] <Yuv422> and 15 during the day
[12:29:03] <TheCycoONE> nice to be on the coast
[12:29:58] <Yuv422> yeah
[13:26:32] <CIA-68> nuvie: 03efry * r1366 10/nuvie/trunk/ (16 files in 7 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[13:26:32] <CIA-68> nuvie: * Added Malignant Manor's seance patch [3538839]
[13:26:32] <CIA-68> nuvie: This sets bit 7 on Quenton's talk flags. This can be used to add additional
[13:26:32] <CIA-68> nuvie: seance dialog to his character.
[13:26:32] <CIA-68> nuvie: * Added Malignant Manor's patch for SE/MD script values.
[13:26:33] <CIA-68> nuvie: * Added Actor.set_talk_flag(actor, flag_num) to script system.
[13:26:34] <CIA-68> nuvie: * Call obj_get_readiable_location() script function from Actor to determine readiable
[13:29:43] <Yuv422> time for bed
[13:29:44] <Yuv422> cya
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[13:39:38] <TheCycoONE> enjoy
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[13:41:38] <TheCycoONE> Quenton - additional dialog. I thought you didn't want his case to be solveable. (I always thought I just couldn't figure it out until I saw the bug, then I thought about it and it's good to leave it a mystery.
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[22:46:36] <Yuv422> hey Malignant_Manor
[22:46:41] <Malignant_Manor> For the inventory gump, what is the party button supposed to do?
[22:46:44] <Malignant_Manor> hi
[22:47:25] <Malignant_Manor> I fixed the combat button not working but there seems a gump is missing.
[22:47:30] <Yuv422> in the new fullmap mode?
[22:47:36] <Malignant_Manor> Yeah
[22:48:06] <Yuv422> it was meant to show party icons
[22:48:22] <Yuv422> but I think Daniel removed it from his mockups
[22:48:34] <Yuv422> it might be better to link to a menu
[22:48:40] <Yuv422> like exult
[22:50:18] <Malignant_Manor> I also removed a pointer change that seemed unintended.
[22:57:46] <Yuv422> ah I think that button was intended to show the combat worktype of the party member
[22:57:58] <Yuv422> which you could toggle through
[23:00:45] <Malignant_Manor> The difference between viewing radius between smooth and original is pretty notifiable.
[23:01:08] <Yuv422> yeah
[23:02:14] <Malignant_Manor> I'm not sure how the tables work but I change the without torch value to something good (across the whole globeradius_2 since I don't know which is which.)
[23:02:44] <Malignant_Manor> Then I still have issues with the torch light value not being good.
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[23:05:07] <Yuv422> my irc client just crashed
[23:05:12] <Yuv422> that never happens
[23:05:47] <Yuv422> SugarCube: wrote the smooth lighting logic
[23:06:22] <Malignant_Manor> It's too complicated for me to figure out what's what.
[23:07:17] <Yuv422> we can look at that later I guess
[23:07:58] <Yuv422> I changed your seance logic a little
[23:08:30] <Malignant_Manor> I didn't look to see if there were any changes.
[23:09:00] <Yuv422> just did a type check on the select to make sure it was an actor
[23:09:25] <Yuv422> I also connected up the readiable objects tables to MD and SE
[23:09:38] <Yuv422> so you can ready items
[23:09:41] <Malignant_Manor> It still works on bodies right?
[23:09:49] <Yuv422> should do
[23:10:14] <Malignant_Manor> I tried copy pasting a lot of stuff from U6 but ready didn't work.
[23:10:32] <Malignant_Manor> Does MD stuff go into the custom slot sections?
[23:11:24] <Malignant_Manor> gloves on right ring slot (left side of doll), pants on left
[23:11:54] <Yuv422> no haven't implement that
[23:12:15] <Yuv422> I just translated it to the current u6 ready slots
[23:12:52] <Yuv422> yeah seance still works on bodies
[23:13:17] <Yuv422> just had a quick chat with a dead dupre
[23:23:57] <Malignant_Manor> With the lighting, I have something between 104 and 110 working for without a torch. My value with a torch lit to equal the original is around 154.
[23:25:00] <Malignant_Manor> Should I add this to the tracker?
[23:26:00] <Yuv422> yeah chuck it in the tracker :)
[23:27:11] <Malignant_Manor> Unfortunately, this is one thing that makes Nuvie a lot more attractive for people to play. (when working right)
[23:27:44] <Yuv422> true
[23:27:59] <Malignant_Manor> I'll also include my picture taken at all the original darkness changes compared to the smooth.
[23:29:10] <Malignant_Manor> It is also seems to takes more time to start transitioning to dark.
[23:30:33] <Yuv422> I'm focusing on the scripting combat bugs at the moment
[23:31:14] <Malignant_Manor> Yeah,combat is something I want fixed before I test going through the entire game.
[23:32:18] <Malignant_Manor> I couldn't find a good fix for "Inventory view doesn't use target cursor"
[23:33:08] <Yuv422> I haven't looked at that one yet
[23:34:00] <Malignant_Manor> The game keeps the cursor as a target when leaving the map window. It is changed to a pointer on mouse leave
[23:34:06] <Malignant_Manor> in Nuvie
[23:35:09] <Malignant_Manor> but mouse enter for Inventory view wouldn't trigger so I couldn't tell it to use the target if it is the right thing to use.
[23:35:38] <Yuv422> strange
[23:36:22] <Malignant_Manor> Well, if I moved the mouse really slowly, and just right, it could trigger.
[23:37:17] <Yuv422> you must be moving faster than the refresh
[23:37:39] <Yuv422> not sure how the enter/leave events are triggered
[23:37:44] <Malignant_Manor> But that might have been after I tried moving the inventory one pixel to the right.
[23:49:39] <Malignant_Manor> Not working now. That must have been after I tried moving it.
[23:50:42] <Malignant_Manor> I'll upload what I have on the tracker.
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