#nuvie@irc.freenode.net logs for 6 Apr 2003 (GMT)

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[01:55:29] <Dominus> ?logs
[01:55:40] <Dominus> ?help
[01:55:48] <Dominus> ?log
[01:55:48] <exultbot> Logs are available at http://www.math.leidenuniv.nl/~wpalenst/nuvielog.php
[01:56:11] * Dominus is stupid
[01:56:25] <Dominus> I tried http://www.math.leidenuniv.nl/~wpalenst/nuvie.php
[01:56:44] <Dominus> instead of realizing the default url for exultbot's logs
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[02:47:38] <Yuv422> hi Curryous
[02:47:42] <Curryous> Oh exultbot you sly dog... Never know where you'll show up
[02:47:44] <Curryous> heya
[02:47:54] <Yuv422> :)
[02:48:29] <Yuv422> exultbot just can't get enough ultima it seems!
[02:48:37] <Curryous> just stop I'd stop by... say I'm excited about you making Exult-like program for U6
[02:49:08] <Yuv422> Thanks.
[02:49:19] <Yuv422> things are progressing well at the moment.
[02:49:22] <Curryous> Now when are we gonna get a windows build? :)
[02:49:40] <Yuv422> it already compiles on win32. ;)
[02:49:57] <Yuv422> kirben has offered to make snapshots
[02:50:05] <Yuv422> if that's what you mean?
[02:50:46] <Curryous> yeah... I'm too computationally illiterate to use a compiler
[02:51:29] <Yuv422> ah k
[02:52:18] <Yuv422> did you find the #nuvie channel from the #exult logs?
[02:52:31] <Yuv422> I haven't mentioned it on the website yet. :)
[02:52:39] <Yuv422> unless laxdragon has?
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[02:52:57] <Curryous> Exult logs. I've been a sucker for those bad boys for ages
[02:53:03] <SB-X> hello
[02:53:03] <Yuv422> hey SB-X
[02:53:35] <Yuv422> just fixing the mapwindow clipping.
[02:53:45] <SB-X> ok
[02:53:50] <SB-X> i was looking at MapWindow earlier
[02:53:57] <Curryous> Nuvie logs would be great too:)
[02:54:08] <SB-X> then i decided to try and make unpack_conv work in opposite direction and pack conv, thats what im doing now
[02:54:18] <SB-X> ?logs
[02:54:20] <Yuv422> hehe it's a bit of a mess ATM SB-X
[02:54:21] <SB-X> ?log
[02:54:21] <exultbot> Logs are available at http://www.math.leidenuniv.nl/~wpalenst/nuvielog.php
[02:54:22] <Yuv422> ?log
[02:54:22] <exultbot> Logs are available at http://www.math.leidenuniv.nl/~wpalenst/nuvielog.php
[02:54:30] <Yuv422> ;)
[02:54:30] <Curryous> swank
[02:54:33] <SB-X> Yuv422: im getting close, been working on it
[02:54:38] <Yuv422> cool
[02:54:43] <SB-X> i worked around some of the read errors in the file
[02:54:44] * Yuv422 gets excited
[02:54:50] <SB-X> just save them as unk data dumps :P
[02:54:58] <SB-X> and make an index file of everything
[02:55:04] <SB-X> then to repack, read that index file
[02:55:08] <SB-X> and read all the files listed in it
[02:55:21] <Yuv422> have you written an lzw compressor?
[02:55:39] <SB-X> ...
[02:55:45] <SB-X> forgot about that
[02:55:47] <SB-X> hehe
[02:55:49] <Yuv422> hehe
[02:55:52] <Yuv422> it's not hard.
[02:56:08] <Yuv422> just follow the instructions on nodlings website
[02:56:36] <SB-X> ok
[02:56:44] <SB-X> theres a file called u6tech.txt that says how
[02:56:54] <Yuv422> yeah that's the file
[02:57:24] <Yuv422> I guess we shouldn't really say compress as the resulting file will always be larger. ;)
[02:59:26] <SB-X> one of the unreadable items in the middle of converse.b was unreadable because it was not compressed
[02:59:51] <SB-X> after reading it, i think thats all the npcs
[02:59:59] <SB-X> i don't know what the items at the end of the file are
[03:00:20] <Yuv422> ah k
[03:00:40] <Yuv422> I wonder why they left it uncompressed?
[03:00:51] * SB-X shrugs.
[03:01:01] <SB-X> maybe it was patched on later
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[03:01:07] <SB-X> the first 4 bytes are 00 00 00 00
[03:01:21] <Yuv422> ah k.
[03:01:31] <Yuv422> well we can use that to check I guess
[03:14:28] <Yuv422> lunch time
[03:14:33] <Yuv422> be back in a bit
[04:27:30] <SB-X> just need to add lzw compressor now
[05:21:07] <SB-X> lol
[05:22:44] <SB-X> nice to know Ultima VI shows error information in conversations
[05:22:47] <SB-X> Talk-Iolo
[05:22:48] <SB-X> You see Unknown command.
[05:22:48] <SB-X> Try to print out a control char
[05:22:48] <SB-X> Unknown command.
[05:22:48] <SB-X> Try to print out a control char
[05:22:48] <SB-X> Logical error occured.
[05:23:06] <Eclair> got the new cvs up?
[05:23:33] <SB-X> hi
[05:23:37] <Eclair> hey
[05:23:37] <SB-X> what is supposed to be in the new cvs?
[05:23:46] <Eclair> been busy, so didn't really say much on chan
[05:31:23] <Yuv422> the new cvs has scaling :)
[05:32:21] <SB-X> wb
[05:32:24] <SB-X> its new if you didnt get it when it was even more new
[05:32:53] <Yuv422> so your repacker is working?
[05:34:17] <SB-X> no
[05:34:26] <SB-X> im writing the bytes as 16bit instead of 9bit still
[05:34:35] <Yuv422> ah k
[05:34:50] <SB-X> u6 can read the files but shows those errors
[05:35:05] <Yuv422> cool
[05:42:51] <SB-X> Yuv422: do you have a list of portraits?
[05:44:37] <SB-X> m falling asleep here, ill finish this after i wake up
[05:44:41] <SB-X> im*
[05:44:45] <SB-X> bye
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[06:49:35] <Yuv422> wb
[07:09:12] * Eclair is away: reading manga, go away :P
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[12:08:30] <Yuv422> hi sbx
[12:10:12] <sbx> yo
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[18:24:51] * sbx cheers. The formerly unknown entries in converse.a and converse.b are unpacked correctly, and no longer unknown.
[18:27:17] <wjp> how far along are you with conversations?
[18:29:42] <sbx> at the moment im just trying to repack the converse data and run it with u6, so i can test some things
[18:30:34] <sbx> as far as the actual data, i have replacement strings, and keywords, and some of the code figured out
[18:30:52] <sbx> flow control is what i still have not completely figured out
[18:31:33] <sbx> but i havnt looked at that in the last few days
[18:31:56] <wjp> U6 didn't have much flow control in conversations, did it?
[18:32:52] <sbx> it checks things like "does party have item XX", "is npc XX in party", "is NPC met-flag set", and some comparisons, and it can jump
[18:33:35] <sbx> jumps are to absolute offsets
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[23:54:13] <Yuv422> hi
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[23:57:20] <sbx> hi
[23:59:45] <Yuv422> How's the u6c research going?