#nuvie@irc.freenode.net logs for 6 Dec 2005 (GMT)

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[12:22:27] <SB-X> hi eric
[12:22:34] <Yuv422> hello
[12:22:42] <Yuv422> how's it going?
[12:23:30] <SB-X> going fine thanks
[12:23:42] <SB-X> im playing with nuvie, tweaking party movement again
[12:23:51] <Yuv422> cool
[12:24:44] <SB-X> it was even closer to U6 a little while ago but something I did changed that again, and now they sometimes move when they don't have to
[12:24:51] <SB-X> oh well
[12:25:18] <Yuv422> I look forward to seeing it in action
[12:25:47] <SB-X> at least you wont lose anyone
[12:25:58] <SB-X> although I only tested with 6 party members
[12:26:34] <SB-X> 8+ could lose someone but the pathfinder should then kick in and they'll seek the party
[12:26:59] <SB-X> nuvie needs an icon and class name
[12:28:09] <Yuv422> ?
[12:28:39] <SB-X> in XFCE taskbar it's application icon is the default icon for XFCE
[12:28:45] <SB-X> and the class name is "SDLApp"
[12:28:53] <Yuv422> ah k
[12:29:03] <Yuv422> I use servus's icon for OS X
[12:29:11] <SB-X> oh
[12:29:14] <SB-X> it's platform dependant? :\
[12:29:24] * SB-X looks at it.
[12:29:25] <Yuv422> hehe not the icon
[12:30:10] <SB-X> where is osx stuff?
[12:30:58] <Yuv422> nuvie/XCodeBuild/nuvie.icns
[12:31:06] <SB-X> what kind of file is that?
[12:31:13] <Yuv422> you might not be able to view it though
[12:31:18] <Yuv422> it's an os x ion file
[12:31:22] <Yuv422> icon
[12:32:13] <SB-X> doesn't look like I can
[12:32:42] <Yuv422> :-(
[12:32:59] <SB-X> when you build it, does it merge the icon with the executable?
[12:33:08] <Yuv422> yes
[12:33:09] <SB-X> perhaps as a data fork?
[12:33:11] <SB-X> ok
[12:33:26] <Yuv422> it's called an app bundle
[12:35:14] <SB-X> I wonder if that's possible in X, with an X11 library function or SDL.
[12:35:45] <SB-X> void SDL_WM_SetIcon(SDL_Surface *icon, Uint8 *mask);
[12:35:59] <Yuv422> :)
[12:36:18] <SB-X> exult stores it in a header file
[12:36:37] <SB-X> exulticon.h
[12:37:00] <Yuv422> the mac icon has a few defferent sized icons inside
[12:37:08] <wjp> applications in OS X are actually directories
[12:37:11] <Yuv422> the largest being 128x128
[12:37:17] <Yuv422> yeah
[12:37:18] <wjp> hi, by the way :-)
[12:37:22] <SB-X> hi
[12:37:23] <Yuv422> hi wjp
[12:38:29] <Yuv422> Nuvie.app/Contents/Resources/nuvie.icns
[12:39:05] <Yuv422> Nuvie.app/Contents/MacOS/Nuvie
[12:39:43] <SB-X> ah k
[12:39:51] <SB-X> it isn't like that in previous MacOS?
[12:40:12] <Yuv422> no
[12:40:22] <Yuv422> this is NextStep stuff
[12:41:53] <SB-X> that's interesting
[12:42:04] <SB-X> ROX has app bundles too
[12:42:41] <SB-X> or directories
[12:43:00] <SB-X> i forgot what it's based on
[12:43:16] <SB-X> RISC OS
[12:44:36] <Yuv422> It's a good idea
[12:45:23] <SB-X> Another thing Nuvie is missing is the ability to go fullscreen. Is there a good reason we don't have that yet?
[12:45:54] <Yuv422> full screen is a bit dodgy in os x
[12:46:56] <SB-X> why's that?
[12:48:23] <Yuv422> because os x is all open gl
[12:48:35] <Yuv422> or some sort of hw surface
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[12:51:41] <SB-X> hmm
[12:52:05] <Yuv422> os x has big problems with flickering too. :(
[12:52:11] <SB-X> is there a plan to make it work?
[12:52:24] <Yuv422> due to the fact it writes straight to the video memory :(
[12:52:32] <Yuv422> it works
[12:52:37] <SB-X> oh
[12:52:39] <Yuv422> but it isn't scaled
[12:52:59] <Yuv422> so you get a full screen app at normal size with black bands around it
[12:53:13] <SB-X> that's no good
[12:53:19] <Yuv422> yeah
[12:53:26] <SB-X> do you think it should just be disabled in OSX then?
[12:53:43] <SB-X> or should users kknow not to try it
[12:54:14] <SB-X> (assuming it works for people not using OSX)
[12:54:20] <Yuv422> I want to fix the open gl sdl scalers for os x
[12:54:28] <Yuv422> in nuvie
[12:54:47] <Yuv422> I've just got to get around to it
[12:55:07] <SB-X> ok, so for now we shouldn't try going fullscreen on OSX?
[12:55:20] <SB-X> because it will be changed anyway
[12:55:32] <Yuv422> yeah
[12:55:46] <Yuv422> well the code is disabled in nuvie anyway
[12:55:52] <SB-X> maybe we can add a set_fullscreen() method, with ifdefs for platform type
[13:02:09] <SB-X> whenever we decide to, that is
[13:02:24] <Yuv422> sounds good
[13:03:40] <Yuv422> time for bed
[13:03:47] <Yuv422> cya
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[13:04:45] <SB-X> heh
[13:40:17] <SB-X> cya
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[13:40:40] <wjp> bye
[13:40:40] <sbx|afk> time for Ghost in the Shell: SAC 2nd Gig
[13:40:42] <sbx|afk> then sleep
[13:40:43] <sbx|afk> :)
[13:40:47] <sbx|afk> bye
[13:40:47] <wjp> :-)
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