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[01:26:34] <Yuv422> hello
[01:34:51] <trand> morning
[01:38:16] <Yuv422> hi trand
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[02:02:38] <sbx> hi
[02:03:26] <Yuv422> hi sbx
[02:05:39] <Yuv422> what do you think about a combat mode where the player controls each party member in turn
[02:05:55] <Yuv422> instead of only controlling the avatar?
[02:30:58] <sbx> there is one in u6
[02:31:04] <sbx> i think its a good thing :)
[02:31:38] <Yuv422> I'm going to put in a restricted cursor select movement
[02:31:47] <sbx> sorry I was unresponsive I was in another window playing UO
[02:31:56] <Yuv422> hehe np
[02:31:59] <sbx> what do you mean?
[02:32:29] <Yuv422> so you can only select a location to attack from a limited number of squares
[02:32:41] <Yuv422> eg only two tiles away from the player
[02:32:44] <Yuv422> if using a mace
[02:32:54] <sbx> ok
[02:33:04] <Yuv422> or one if using hands or a sword
[02:33:23] <sbx> u6 does it differently?
[02:33:56] <Yuv422> that's how u6 does it
[02:34:14] <Yuv422> you can only select a tile up to the range of your weapon.
[02:35:58] <sbx> oh thats good
[02:36:21] <sbx> i dont think halbards are completed in u6o
[02:36:32] <sbx> they dont go up to 2 spaces away
[02:36:43] <Yuv422> ah k
[02:39:59] <Yuv422> wow
[02:40:10] <Yuv422> I just pushed a painting through a stone wall
[02:40:18] <Yuv422> in the original U6
[02:40:21] <Yuv422> ;)
[02:40:26] <sbx> hehe
[02:40:29] <sbx> i never thought about that
[02:40:53] * Yuv422 wonders if nuvie suffers from the same bug
[02:41:17] <sbx> not really a bug
[02:42:19] <Yuv422> yes
[02:42:36] <Yuv422> but it is quite undesirable behaviour. :)
[02:43:14] <sbx> not sure how to change it
[02:43:16] <Yuv422> hehe it works exaclty the same way in nuvie
[02:43:31] <Yuv422> yeah
[02:44:26] <sbx> make it require a line of site to target, but you should be able to push some things to spaces you cant see
[02:44:32] <Yuv422> if object on wall don't allow movement to the left or to the top
[02:44:36] <sbx> so that wouldn't be desireable either
[02:44:39] <sbx> oh
[02:44:56] <sbx> well if you want to have a specific rule like that :)
[02:45:04] <sbx> I don't mind.
[02:45:12] <Yuv422> yeah it is a bit messy
[02:45:37] <sbx> on another note, dragging things with the mouse prevents you from moving it like that :)
[02:45:48] <Yuv422> cool
[02:46:15] <Yuv422> I'll write up a bug for it
[02:46:23] <Yuv422> and put it on SF
[02:46:26] <sbx> im not changing it
[02:46:32] <Yuv422> hehe
[02:46:47] <sbx> perhaps Ordoc will, he was looking for something to work on :)
[02:47:07] <Yuv422> cool
[02:59:52] <sbx> well
[03:00:21] <sbx> someone killed my character on UO/Metropolis and stole all my things
[03:01:34] <Yuv422> :(
[03:01:39] <Yuv422> that's not very nice
[03:01:43] <sbx> so im going to stop playing (though it will probably make me wait before deleting my character)
[03:01:45] <sbx> hehe
[03:03:44] <sbx> I'm just a newbie with worthless newbie items, and am only annoyed that I followed some random player into a moongate leading to unprotected forest area, on a PvP server.
[03:04:12] <sbx> U6O doesn't have PK :)
[03:05:23] <Yuv422> are they going to put it in?
[03:05:51] <sbx> no, only consensual pvp
[03:08:27] <sbx> they just got wands in recently
[03:08:29] <sbx> you can enchant them
[03:08:52] <Yuv422> cool
[03:09:11] <sbx> pieter's work may lead to a linux or osx client
[03:09:53] <Yuv422> cool
[03:10:55] <trand> hi Yuv422
[03:11:04] <Yuv422> hi trand
[03:21:53] * Yuv422 walks in on LB having dinner
[03:22:31] * Yuv422 and attempts to get him real mad by slapping Kytyn in the face
[03:23:26] * Yuv422 sits back and observes the chaos through the objlist file
[03:25:46] <sbx> heh
[03:25:56] <sbx> try stealing their food
[03:26:27] <Yuv422> didn't LB say that the avatar could take anything in his castle?
[03:27:30] <sbx> yeah
[03:27:40] <sbx> he probably didnt mean the food off his plate while he's trying to eat
[03:27:48] <Yuv422> well all the diners got real mad and went 0x98 on the party. ;)
[03:27:55] <Yuv422> 0x9b
[03:27:59] <Yuv422> I should say
[03:28:13] <Yuv422> hehe 0x98 is bell ringer
[03:28:22] <Yuv422> not exactly the same thing. :)
[03:28:52] <sbx> watching through objlist file must be exciting
[03:29:10] <Yuv422> hehe of course
[03:40:10] <sbx> oh when I said linux or OSX client [of U6O] I meant a graphical client of course, the text version is definite
[03:40:32] <Yuv422> yeah that's what I thought you ment
[03:41:45] <sbx> ok just making sure :)
[03:42:07] <sbx> he said as long as the text version is working, no reason we cant add graphics to it
[03:42:17] <sbx> the protocol is always changing though
[03:43:12] <sbx> hmm, maybe a library for that can be made and shared by the different clients
[03:43:50] <Yuv422> I'd imagine that the original u6o client is fairly windows specific.
[03:45:29] <sbx> yeah just making a completely new client for other platforms is much more likely than getting them to port u6o (or allow anyone else to)
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[06:16:19] <sbx> hmm
[06:16:31] <sbx> can't take anything for granted in FullMetalAlchemist
[06:16:55] <Yuv422> ?
[06:17:44] <sbx> I just finished watched a very important episode, and can see the series is going to change from now on.
[06:18:00] <Yuv422> ah k
[06:18:01] <sbx> although it seems like a lot of the episodes have been like that :)
[06:18:08] <sbx> this show is great
[07:02:33] <sbx> Yuv422: Were you the one who told me about The Black Cauldron (book/movie/game)?
[07:02:42] <Yuv422> probably
[07:02:49] <Yuv422> the sierra game
[07:03:11] * Yuv422 looks for the link
[07:03:42] <sbx> heh
[07:03:47] <sbx> okay, did you read the book?
[07:03:56] <sbx> I just read that its completely different from the movie.
[07:03:58] <Yuv422> http://www.allowe.com/More/download.htm
[07:04:10] <Yuv422> nah I haven't read the book
[07:04:14] <Yuv422> or seen the movie
[07:04:20] <Yuv422> I've only played the computer game
[07:04:38] <sbx> oh ok :)
[07:05:24] <Yuv422> I believe that paul gilbert was doing somthing with the black cauldron game
[07:05:27] <sbx> I'll assume the game has had any last bit of the book's theme that might have even been hinted at in the movie, removed from it so there is no resemblance between them.
[07:05:37] <sbx> oh that's right
[07:05:41] <sbx> did I hear it from him first then?
[07:06:39] <Yuv422> I'd say you probably did.
[07:08:33] <sbx> the book has necromancy in it
[07:08:45] <sbx> or something like that
[07:09:15] <Yuv422> I cannot imagine that would make it into a disney film.
[07:09:33] <sbx> no, that's probably true :)
[07:09:45] <sbx> Er, yeah that's probably true. :)
[07:12:25] <sbx> Cartoon Network isn't showing the 2nd half of FMA for several months or more. I'll have to download some of the fansubs to get my fix until then.
[07:12:48] <sbx> I mean, I'll have to start buying the DVD's now to see the rest of the series of I don't want to wait until then. :)
[07:13:37] <Yuv422> yeah I hate it when tv networks hold off showing new episodes
[07:14:57] <sbx> Seriously though I really have wanted to get the R1 DVDs for a while now, and I don't buy anime that often. But they probably aren't releasing them fast enough. :)
[07:15:37] <Yuv422> I bought a lot of dvds when I was in the UK
[07:15:53] <Yuv422> you can't get them out here. :(
[07:15:57] <sbx> when it's a show you really like it must be really tempting to get the episodes some other way, if possible, right?
[07:16:11] <Yuv422> yeah
[07:16:58] <sbx> what did you buy?
[07:17:37] <Yuv422> some british shows
[07:18:12] <Yuv422> Teachers,spaced,The royle family,The Lakes
[07:18:15] <sbx> Doctor Who?
[07:18:16] <sbx> oh
[07:18:26] <Yuv422> hehe nah
[07:18:26] <sbx> What are those about?
[07:18:42] <sbx> they sound like soap operas (serials) or sitcoms
[07:18:43] <Yuv422> not really a Dr, who fan
[07:18:56] <sbx> that's OK neither am I
[07:19:12] <Yuv422> I might watch the new series to see what it's like
[07:20:17] <sbx> Does Australia like the UK use the term "series" for the new batch of episodes aired each year?
[07:20:27] <sbx> although I know that's not what you mean now
[07:20:27] <Yuv422> yes
[07:20:33] <Yuv422> or season
[07:20:41] <sbx> ok
[07:20:47] <Yuv422> http://imdb.com/title/tt0280330/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnxteD0yMHxsbT01MDB8dHQ9b258ZmI9dXxwbj0wfHE9dGVhY2hlcnN8aHRtbD0xfG5tPW9u;fc=1;ft=41;fm=1
[07:20:57] <sbx> are those shows comedies? I'm not familiar with any of them
[07:21:02] <sbx> hmm
[07:21:16] <sbx> User Comments: a cult show for the 00's (more)
[07:22:37] <sbx> I bet their exploits have "sexy results".
[07:24:11] <Yuv422> http://imdb.com/title/tt0129711/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnxteD0yMHxsbT01MDB8dHQ9b258ZmI9dXxwbj0wfHE9dGhlIHJveWxlIGZhbWlseXxodG1sPTF8bm09b24_;fc=1;ft=21
[07:25:18] <Yuv422> http://imdb.com/title/tt0122579/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnxteD0yMHxsbT01MDB8dHQ9b258ZmI9dXxwbj0wfHE9dGhlIGxha2VzfGh0bWw9MXxubT1vbg__;fc=1;ft=21;fm=1
[07:25:21] <sbx> User Comments: A right hoot! (more)
[07:25:26] <sbx> k
[07:25:37] * Yuv422 wonders why imdb needs such long URLs
[07:25:46] <sbx> and ugly at that
[07:26:23] <sbx> User Comments: Wet & nasty... (more)
[07:26:27] <sbx> ...k
[07:26:33] <sbx> at least that one is a drama
[07:26:51] <Yuv422> yeah quite a dark one
[07:27:21] <sbx> With "sexy results"?
[07:28:09] <Yuv422> well sex drives a lot of human endeavours
[07:28:24] <sbx> heh
[07:28:34] <Yuv422> but the characters in the lakes are pretty messed up
[07:28:44] <sbx> Seems like that would be wierd for this kind of show anyway.
[07:29:00] <sbx> but I couldn't get anything from that imdb page as far as what the show is about
[07:29:31] <sbx> there aren't any IMDB message board posts about it either
[07:30:45] <Yuv422> here's the second series
[07:30:49] <Yuv422> http://imdb.com/title/tt0185414/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnxteD0yMHxsbT01MDB8dHQ9b258ZmI9dXxwbj0wfHE9dGhlIGxha2VzfGh0bWw9MXxubT1vbg__;fc=2;ft=21;fm=1
[07:31:27] <sbx> User Comments: Series 1 of `The Lakes' it's not! (more)
[07:31:43] <sbx> did you get both?
[07:31:52] <Yuv422> yeah
[07:31:56] <Yuv422> in a box set
[07:32:09] <sbx> congratulations
[07:32:14] <sbx> i guess
[07:32:15] <sbx> :)
[07:32:18] <Yuv422> ;)
[07:32:21] <sbx> I assume you like both.
[07:32:29] <sbx> unlike Author: prose from Adelaide, Australia
[07:33:09] <Yuv422> I do agree that the second series wasn't as good as the first
[07:35:31] <sbx> Seems like the UK has more good short series than the US. (because most of them are short, where shows here have to go on for many seasons)
[07:35:50] <sbx> not that I've seen many of them
[07:36:07] <sbx> but I like shorter anime series in general too
[07:36:20] <Yuv422> I sometimes think they don't know when to end a show in the US
[07:36:28] <sbx> nope :)
[07:36:43] <sbx> I thought the Simpsons should have ended after season9.
[07:37:03] <sbx> the recent Farscape miniseries is supposed to be good
[07:37:10] <Yuv422> the good thing about british shows is you're usually left wanting more. Not wishing it had ended two seasons ago.
[07:37:54] <sbx> do you usually get more?
[07:38:12] <sbx> I guess it has to reach a certain threshold of demand before they make a continuation.
[07:38:37] <Yuv422> and they finish when they run out of fresh ideas
[07:38:44] <sbx> in the US until the show has "run its course" its just assumed to continue next season
[07:40:49] <sbx> These Usenet posters noticed a lot more of the details of FMA than I did.
[07:41:12] <Yuv422> have you only watched it once?
[07:41:42] <sbx> I need to start paying more attention to the small details and possible consequences of whats happening in the show, from now on.
[07:41:52] <sbx> I watch most episodes twice.
[07:42:06] <Yuv422> ah k
[07:42:31] <sbx> but somehow don't piece together clues that strike me as obvious when reading comments other people post about them :)
[07:49:35] <sbx> Why can't you get DVDs there?
[07:49:54] <Yuv422> they haven't released them for our zone
[07:50:33] <sbx> oh you have a regionless player!
[07:50:35] <sbx> isn't that annoying
[07:50:56] <Yuv422> yeah I can't play them on my computer
[07:51:11] <sbx> damned marketing schemes!
[07:51:15] <sbx> oh?
[07:51:27] <Yuv422> only on my standalone player
[07:51:34] <Yuv422> which is multi-zone
[07:51:59] <sbx> Don't xine or Mplayer run on OSX and have libcss decryption?
[07:52:32] <Yuv422> yeah but my dvd drive is region locked
[07:52:51] <Yuv422> and I don't really want to try flash it with a non apple firmware
[07:53:45] <sbx> the drive itself? :| is that just when using hardware decoding then?
[07:54:01] <sbx> The Windows player I have works with the hardware decoder and can only be changed 5 times.
[07:54:08] <sbx> but I didn't think it would affect xine
[07:54:34] <sbx> I don't know much about playing DVD's though.
[07:56:23] <sbx> just enough to get mplayer working with them
[07:56:57] <Yuv422> yeah dvd copy protection isn't very nice
[07:57:16] <Yuv422> region codes are stupid
[07:58:39] <sbx> Did you have to modify your player? :)
[07:58:53] <Yuv422> got it done in the shop
[07:59:11] <Yuv422> before they passed the laws to ban modding
[08:00:46] <sbx> I didn't even know about those laws.
[08:00:58] <sbx> Can someone come and take your player away?
[08:01:49] <Yuv422> I hope not
[08:01:54] <sbx> They'd have to pry it from your cold dead hands.
[08:03:04] <Yuv422> I feel bad having to go around as the avatar killing npcs
[08:03:14] <Yuv422> but it's all in the name of game testing
[08:03:17] <sbx> what?
[08:03:26] <sbx> That's what your supposed to do in that game right?
[08:03:34] <Yuv422> just tried killing smith
[08:03:37] <Yuv422> yeah
[08:03:42] <sbx> I thought the point of Ultima was killing everyone in the world. :)
[08:03:52] <Yuv422> hmm
[08:03:54] <Yuv422> ;)
[08:05:20] <sbx> can you do software decoding with mplayer or xine? (and would that work?)
[08:05:58] <Yuv422> I can't get the data from the dvd due to a region lock in the drives firmware
[08:06:35] <sbx> I see.
[08:06:37] <sbx> ok
[08:08:23] <Yuv422> is there a dead worktype
[08:08:27] <Yuv422> can you remember?
[08:09:00] <sbx> pretty sure there isnt
[08:10:24] <sbx> can't find my "exhaustive" list
[08:10:54] <sbx> check to see if random NPC's return to some activity right after being great awakened
[08:14:40] <Yuv422> hmm
[08:14:57] <Yuv422> I just killed smith an his worktype is now 00xc
[08:15:06] <Yuv422> 0xc
[08:16:01] <sbx> that's graze
[08:16:14] <sbx> or wander
[08:16:31] <Yuv422> is it
[08:16:43] <sbx> If I recall correctly.
[08:16:50] <Yuv422> ah yes
[08:17:12] <Yuv422> my schedule doc is a little outdated
[08:18:29] <sbx> it's one of the combat worktype used for egg-hatched temp-actors
[08:21:48] <sbx> I think of the smaller digit numbers as combat worktypes.
[08:24:41] <Yuv422> hehe nuvie was trying to run worktypes for dead actors
[08:24:49] <Yuv422> I've fixed that now
[08:26:13] <sbx> That would be pretty amusing if they looked and acted just as they did when they were alive.
[08:26:56] <sbx> I suggested (half-jokingly) for U6O that they let you cast resurrect on skeletons and dead bodies.
[08:27:53] <servus> They'd have to change it from An Corp to In Corp Mani
[08:28:19] <sbx> Ack!
[08:28:25] <sbx> where did you come from?
[08:28:26] <Yuv422> we telelport the actor to 0,0,0 so you won't see any zombie actors in nuvie.
[08:28:34] <Yuv422> :)
[08:28:40] <sbx> that's good
[08:28:41] <servus> I just got back from an art show. It was cool, I guess... if you like art shows.
[08:28:45] <sbx> oh, hi
[08:28:56] <servus> Hola
[08:28:58] <sbx> what do those spell words mean?
[08:29:10] <sbx> I never bothered to learn.
[08:29:33] <servus> An Corp is "Negate Death". In Corp Mani would be "Create Death-Life"
[08:30:02] <sbx> ooh, that sounds strange even in english
[08:30:20] <sbx> unfortunately u6o doesn't even use mantras for spells
[08:30:36] <Yuv422> hi servus
[08:30:54] <servus> Hi, Eric : o)
[08:31:42] <Yuv422> well I can attack an actor using an object in my hand now
[08:31:59] <sbx> any object?!
[08:32:09] <Yuv422> yup
[08:32:17] <Yuv422> well any combat object
[08:32:35] <sbx> oh, I didnt really think you could use any (non-combat) object
[08:32:52] * sbx throws gold coins at Yuv422.
[08:33:03] * Yuv422 blasts smith with a magic wand
[08:33:22] * servus neighs
[08:33:55] * Yuv422 taps servus on the head with the wand
[08:35:25] <servus> Avatar! I have important information for you!
[08:35:31] <servus> You must not buy Ultima IX
[08:35:33] <servus> Oh, too late.
[08:35:37] <servus> Darn! *Neigh*
[08:43:07] <sbx> "I'll have a Horse Coke!"
[08:43:12] <sbx> "Horse Pepsi OK?"
[08:43:14] <sbx> "Nay!"
[08:43:41] <Yuv422> did wands in u6 have limited uses?
[08:44:48] <sbx> I don't even remember how they worked. (wasn't sure you could enchant them)
[08:47:24] <Yuv422> the wands a spam up in the original don't seem to run out.
[08:48:00] <Yuv422> and when I say quantity 2 I get 2 wands
[08:50:33] <sbx> oh, wands, thought you meant staves
[08:50:40] <sbx> they do run out
[08:50:56] <sbx> I remember electric wands always running out on me.
[08:50:59] <Yuv422> do you know where I can find one in the game
[08:51:20] <sbx> one in the castle
[08:54:59] <Yuv422> eep, you can move a sleeping person in nuvie
[08:55:02] <Yuv422> :(
[08:56:50] <sbx> yeah how else would you steal their bed?
[08:56:56] <sbx> oh I suppose you could kill them
[08:57:06] <Yuv422> but it moves them as the bed tile. :(
[08:57:17] <Yuv422> A wand has vanished
[08:59:09] <Yuv422> you can't move an actor who is in a bed in the original
[09:04:03] <sbx> how many uses did you get out of the wand?
[09:04:07] <sbx> and what kind of wand was it
[09:47:16] * sbx throws more gold coins at Yuv422.
[10:06:36] <wjp> wands definitely run out in the original; I was using quite a few fire and lightning wands when I was playing U6 last month or so
[10:06:55] <wjp> (speaking of which, I should probably continue that game soon :-) )
[10:07:38] <sbx> yep, have to keep quite a few of them with you if you want to keep using them
[10:07:42] <sbx> hi wjp
[10:08:00] <wjp> hi
[10:08:35] <sbx> Have you seen FullMetalAlchemist?
[10:12:36] <wjp> wands might be random...
[10:12:46] <wjp> I've been trying the same wand a number of time now
[10:13:03] <wjp> first time it ran out after about 65 uses; second time after about 90; third time before I even reached 40
[10:13:10] <wjp> sbx: only ep 1
[10:14:14] <sbx> ah, well it's completely different than it appeared to be in episode1 at this point in the series (halfway through)
[10:14:52] <sbx> and maybe wands have a random chance to vanish every time you use them, based on intelligence
[10:16:07] <wjp> quite possible
[10:16:15] <sbx> I believe in SystemShock2 the ranged weapons have a chance to break every time you use them, when they are at maintenance level 1.
[10:16:18] <wjp> I think U7 did something similar with rings
[10:16:40] <sbx> but I never saw a wand vanish after only a few uses
[10:17:06] <wjp> I tried 6 times now
[10:17:19] <wjp> three times I got between 30 and 40, twice around 60, once around 90
[10:18:06] <sbx> same wand? guess it was too much to hope that they just saved the value in quality
[10:18:15] <wjp> same wand
[10:18:15] <sbx> i wonder if U6O does it correctly
[10:20:55] * sbx throws a fire wand at Yuv422.
[10:22:14] <sbx> thanks for testing it anyway
[10:22:25] <sbx> so wjp, what did you think of FMA if you only watched 1 episode?
[10:22:57] <wjp> hm, too long ago to really remember much about it
[10:23:19] <wjp> oct 2003, it seems
[10:23:20] <sbx> It wasnt that long ago for me and I don't even remember that much about it. :)
[10:25:26] <sbx> will have to watch it again of course
[10:26:09] <sbx> wjp: have you seen "GitS: SAC"?
[10:26:14] <wjp> no
[10:26:18] * sbx remembers asking you this before.
[10:26:25] <sbx> alright
[10:26:53] <wjp> I've only seen the original GitS movie
[10:27:05] <sbx> I've heard the first is a lot better than the second.
[10:28:39] <sbx> Something called Samurai Champloo is going to start airing on Saturdays here, after new episodes of Inuyasha. But next week or the week after they are showing Metropolis.
[10:28:58] <wjp> Samurai Champloo is somewhat weird, but fairly interesting
[10:29:54] <sbx> I was hoping you'd seen it. :) I read that hip-hop music is to it what Bebop/Jazz is to Cowboy Bebop.
[10:30:33] <sbx> Before that I thought CN just used hip-hop in the promo because they could.
[10:30:36] <sbx> http://asfdotcom.net/php/asfdownload.php?fid=000421
[10:31:02] <wjp> hm, quicktime?
[10:31:13] * wjp wonders how mplayer handles that nowadays
[10:31:44] <sbx> Oh it's just a TV promo anyway. VLC says SVQ3 and MP4A.
[10:32:08] <wjp> it plays here
[10:32:13] <sbx> :)
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[11:07:22] <sbx> hi trand
[11:09:39] <trand> hi sbx
[11:27:05] * Yuv422 looks at wand behaviour in U6
[11:29:40] <sbx> wb
[11:29:50] <wjp> hi Yuv422
[11:29:57] <Yuv422> hi wjp
[11:30:02] <Yuv422> sbx: ty
[11:30:10] <sbx> if you wondering who threw that fire wand at you, I think it was exultbot
[11:30:25] * sbx picks up the fire wand and pockets it.
[11:30:32] <Yuv422> yeah I thought as much. ;)
[11:30:57] <sbx> but the gold coins were from me and I expect to get paid back
[11:32:28] <Yuv422> I can't make this lightning wand vanish.
[11:33:32] * wjp prepares a Vas Sanct Lor spell
[11:40:21] <Yuv422> ok I've finally made my lightning wand vanish
[11:41:28] * sbx still doesn't know the spellcasting mantras.
[11:41:35] <sbx> how many uses did it take?
[11:41:55] <Yuv422> how much damage do you think bare hands do?
[11:42:37] <sbx> i bet it depends on strength
[11:43:01] <sbx> do you know how many times you used the wand before it vanished?
[11:44:36] <Yuv422> no but it was a lot
[11:45:00] <sbx> k
[11:45:13] <sbx> i have to go to sleep now
[11:45:17] <wjp> incidentally, the wand I tried it with wasn't a new wand
[11:45:24] <sbx> bbl
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[11:45:30] <wjp> night
[11:45:47] <sbx|afk> cya
[11:45:52] <Yuv422> cya wjp
[11:45:55] <trand> cya
[11:46:21] <Yuv422> looks like 4HP is the max damage with bare hands
[11:47:01] * wjp isn't going anywhere :-)
[11:47:46] <Yuv422> :)
[11:55:11] <Yuv422> do you think nuvie should hold the last target for each weapon being used
[11:55:39] <Yuv422> or should it just hold the position of the last actor being attacked?
[12:03:31] <wjp> hm, the last actor should be sufficient I think. (Per party member, of course)
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[13:00:45] <Yuv422> sbx: looks like we need a MissleEffect that takes a tile as an argument not an Obj
[13:01:24] <Yuv422> because I can't make an object for a fire/lightning bolt tile
[13:34:53] <Yuv422> I'm off to bed now
[13:34:54] <Yuv422> cya
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