#pentagram@irc.freenode.net logs for 12 Jan 2007 (GMT)

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[16:31:46] <watt> Well, slightly annoying... got an external dvd writer because my stupid internal one has too many problems (sensitive and sometimes refuses to eject)...
[16:32:12] <watt> The new one work but won't let me use its eject button when a disc is in
[16:32:29] <watt> doesn't send the unmount command
[16:38:12] <wjp> strange
[16:38:18] <wjp> did you try the eject command?
[16:40:02] <watt> That work fine, but that's what I want to avoid.
[16:40:23] <watt> I figure, the drive has an eject button.... it should work
[16:41:29] <watt> I guess I shouldn't be fussy about it though... had many years on linux and I never cared to much about that concept.
[16:41:38] <wjp> hm, I'm not too sure how the 'in use' thing is handled
[16:42:03] <wjp> I did notice that umount on an external usb drive doesn't seem to clear it, but an eject does
[16:42:12] <wjp> (even if it's not an ejectable drive)
[16:43:09] <wjp> I wonder if there's something 'between' unmounting the partitions and ejecting it
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[17:44:59] <watt> "Avatar should be able to carry one chest or one barrel on his back as long as it isn't too heavy."
[17:46:01] <watt> wait... what? Ummmm... well, ok
[17:47:29] <watt> Actually, could we make the backpack removable? I don't remember if there was an actual limitation to this other than hard coding and paperdoll gump
[17:51:39] <wjp> that, and that the avatar sprite has a backpack
[18:36:41] <watt> yes, but that's not too hard to mess with
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[20:13:10] <watt> Variable declaration in the for loop - never really noticed we did that, but grep shows we clearly do.
[21:00:11] <wjp> watt: anything is fine as long as it breaks things? We need to talk ;-)
[21:06:11] <watt> :-) sorry - does not break
[21:06:23] <watt> I need to read my mails closer
[21:20:53] <watt> You know, the strange thing is, I only seem to do crazy crap like that in this channel and on the mailing list
[21:21:38] <wjp> :-)
[21:21:39] <watt> Normally I can actually write english... sgih.
[21:21:47] <watt> see
[21:21:50] <watt> sigh
[21:22:57] <watt> Does the mailing list send mails back to the original sender too?
[21:23:10] <wjp> configurable
[21:23:17] <wjp> (per user)
[21:24:06] <watt> Oh... I suppose that needs to be done via the web admin pages
[21:31:01] <wjp> yes
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[22:06:12] <watt> good point about the visual studio express - although I'm not sure what the minimum requirements are to install it
[22:06:50] <wjp> me neither
[22:06:51] <watt> but I imagine just about everyone runs winXP by now
[22:07:07] <wjp> I wonder what the option that KB article suggests does exactly
[22:08:13] <watt> Also, did Brian had an attachment on his mail?
[22:08:25] <watt> s/had/have/
[22:09:37] <wjp> it's in the body of the message
[22:09:49] <wjp> the "CHANGE #1... CHANGE #2..." list
[22:10:23] <watt> oh right... sorry
[22:11:29] <wjp> it was indeed an attachment before; mutt apparently has some interesting forwarding behaviour
[22:11:49] <watt> stopped scrolling after I saw the added SourceForge advertisement
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[22:20:33] <watt> Yeah, I think I agree with you.
[22:21:44] <watt> Microsoft's work around is "#define for if(0);else for" ?
[22:22:08] <watt> yikes
[22:23:13] <wjp> nice way of introducing a new scope :-)
[22:23:32] <wjp> (without needing extra code/symbols at the end)
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[23:04:55] <watt> yup, looks cool to me
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