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[02:48:09] <watt> Ah new subversion - goodie.
[02:48:35] <wizardrydragon> :)
[02:48:48] <watt> I think I'm gonna start building a simple svn client for OS X - I haven't been content with any but the command line so far
[02:51:29] <wizardrydragon> heh
[03:10:09] <watt> wow, that a lotta dependencies... think I'll focus on a version that uses a pre-installed client lib at the moment
[03:10:56] <wizardrydragon> lol
[03:13:41] <watt> I'd like to distribute a bundled app that doesn't require a separate subversion install - its hard to tell people to install two things properly before they can use it - especially if you need to manually point to one (SvnX had that)
[03:14:17] <wizardrydragon> ouch
[03:15:18] <watt> Although, technically anyone using subversion should understand that much - its not actually an ease concept to wrap around your head if you're not already a techie
[03:15:55] <watt> But we try to do that at my work anyway.
[03:16:05] <wizardrydragon> lol
[03:17:12] <watt> The report writers tend to delete files from subversion and replace them every time they have a new version - but they change the filenames to include the date of modification.
[03:17:28] <watt> causes me much pain
[03:17:32] <wizardrydragon> Indeed
[03:17:45] <wizardrydragon> I avoid svn as much as possible
[03:18:48] <watt> That and they store database backups in subversion
[03:18:57] <wizardrydragon> ugh
[03:19:25] <servus> I've played Bioforge. It's about as un-Pentagram you can get. It's closer to Alone in The Dark.
[03:20:06] <watt> nothing like several gig files stored FOREVER in your repository and having it on your personal computer twice because the .svn folder has it too
[03:20:27] <wizardrydragon> Yep!
[03:22:04] <watt> Bioforge... not familiar with it - looks OK from the wikipedia page
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[04:34:50] <ShadwChsr> 'Evenin
[04:34:57] <ShadwChsr> (or morning or whatever ;)
[04:35:11] <ShadwChsr> How are shapes organized in U8?
[04:35:34] <ShadwChsr> A shape represents a single "thing" that can have multiple frames - either animations or versions of that shape?
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[15:12:37] <watt> sad, wrote a function to find the index of a bit flag and then said, "You know, I can optimize that in a switch/case" even though it doesn't really matter - the damn function will only be called a few times.
[15:14:09] <watt> ultimately its easier to maintain too... I don't need to worry about how many bits are used - because an exhaustive list would suck
[15:15:20] <watt> This is what profiling an app is for I guess.. find the place you actually should optimize rather than random guesses
[17:57:01] <watt> ah.. well, the services menu may not be the best way to do subversion integration after all... I can't seem to select multiple files at a time and still use it
[19:06:16] <watt> actuallly I still think the services way may be best, just I have to add a hack to get Finder to work with multiple files/dirs.... ok, 'nough Mac crap for the moment
[19:24:27] <SB-X> what are you trying to add svn to?
[19:47:05] <watt> OS X - Finder integration mostly, but if done through Services, it should be available to any app that uses them and selects files or folders
[19:49:50] <watt> There is a finder plugin at http://scplugin.tigris.org/ , but I'm pretty sure its not the direction I'd like to go
[19:57:51] <SB-X> ah, at first it sounded like you were going to create your own svn app or frontend
[19:59:05] <watt> well, frontend would probably be an accurate description to a point
[19:59:56] <watt> Just ideally the user would never have to manually launch an application
[20:00:47] <watt> ... because If I launch an app to do subversion... it might as well be a terminal
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[21:19:51] <Dominus> hi
[21:20:38] <watt> yo
[21:25:48] <wjp> hi
[21:27:10] <Dominus> reading more on bioforge makes me going to take another look at getting it to work. It's by Tseramed!
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[21:51:59] <Dominus> interesting, there is a gimp plugin that handles photoshop plugins at http://www.gimp.org/~tml/gimp/win32/pspi.html
[21:53:15] <wjp> nice
[21:54:11] <Dominus> not that it seems too stable, but that depends on the plugins I guess
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