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[19:27:24] <ASCIBlue> hm..and here I thought this room would be alive.
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[19:31:51] <ASCIBlue> so how does one get U8 v 1.0 working with pentagram in reguards to u8shapes.cmp? There was once a u8extract but it no longer exists or so it seems.
[19:35:01] <wjp> hi
[19:35:05] <ASCIBlue> hello wjp
[19:35:16] <wjp> it still exists
[19:35:40] <ASCIBlue> sweet, what happened to the website in the logs posted on Pent's page?
[19:35:58] <wjp> ?
[19:36:04] <wjp> which site?
[19:36:46] <ASCIBlue> http://www.math.leidenuniv.nl/~wpalenst/u8extract.cc
[19:37:09] <wjp> oh, I assume I cleaned that up sometime in the past
[19:37:24] <wjp> u8extract is for unpacking .flx files
[19:37:36] <ASCIBlue> Right, to my understanding it works on cmp also.
[19:37:55] <wjp> yes, but it won't help in converting .cmp to .shp
[19:38:07] <ASCIBlue> but cmp to flx is where my problem lies.
[19:38:10] <wjp> for that you need unpackshp
[19:38:29] <wjp> um, I meant .flx instead of .shp :-)
[19:38:41] <ASCIBlue> hm..this log says otherwise!!
[19:38:50] <wjp> which date?
[19:39:33] <ASCIBlue> 19 June 2005.
[19:39:53] <ASCIBlue> http://www.math.leidenuniv.nl/~wpalenst/pentagramlog.php?log=19Jun2005
[19:40:16] <ASCIBlue> <Colourless> i think you might need to run the program in the ultima8\static dir <==this is what I'm basing my statement off of.
[19:40:26] <wjp> the program is unpackshp
[19:41:46] <ASCIBlue> aahh hm..where can I get that? I just tried another URL and it's also a dud.
[19:41:57] <wjp> binary or source?
[19:42:07] <wjp> (and if binary, which OS?)
[19:42:14] <ASCIBlue> binary. I downloaded the most recent for Winblows.
[19:42:19] <ASCIBlue> CVS excuse me.
[19:42:43] <wjp> unpackshp.exe should be in the 'old mapviewer/tools snapshots' on our download page
[19:42:54] <ASCIBlue> I was hoping you wern't going to say that. :P
[19:43:04] <wjp> why?
[19:43:14] <ASCIBlue> just another file to download is all.
[19:52:26] <ASCIBlue> sweet. I like it when PEBKAC
[20:38:19] <ASCIBlue> hm,,combat seems to be lacking
[21:01:08] <wjp> lacking?
[21:01:24] <ASCIBlue> yeah, I tried to train with Darion and couldn't hit him from any angle.
[21:01:38] <wjp> hm
[21:03:11] <wjp> I thought my last tweaks should've solved most of the problems, but it's possible it needs more tweaking
[21:03:29] <ASCIBlue> I was able to kill a couple of misc critters before getting into tenebrae.
[21:05:40] <wjp> cool; stepping back a bit to open doors is working :-)
[21:05:51] <ASCIBlue> thet it is
[21:05:54] <ASCIBlue> that too
[21:08:29] <wjp> ah
[21:08:42] <wjp> you can actually hit Darion, but he doesn't react to it
[21:08:55] <ASCIBlue> hm..maybe that's what was happening.
[21:09:31] <wjp> I wonder if he has some kind of invulnerability flag set
[21:09:50] <wjp> his hitpoints also go down even though the debugging output says I'm doing non-zero damage
[21:09:56] <wjp> s/go down/don't go down/
[21:09:57] <ASCIBlue> hm..
[21:12:28] <wjp> it probably shouldn't abort the 'gotHit' function immediately when it detects the NPC is invulnerable
[21:12:39] <ASCIBlue> agreed!
[21:17:10] <wjp> Darion is indeed flagged as immortal, I see
[21:19:07] <ASCIBlue> hm..makes sense..kinda
[21:19:39] <wjp> ok, let's see if this fixes it...
[21:20:54] <wjp> much better
[21:20:58] <wjp> he actually fights back now
[21:21:07] <ASCIBlue> sweet
[21:21:21] <servus> I don't remember Darion fighting back.
[21:21:21] <ASCIBlue> I just popped a ghoul too so it was only whats his name
[21:21:34] <servus> I think he just says "Oof".
[21:21:47] <ASCIBlue> I do. He would pummel the Av at the beginning
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[21:21:47] <servus> ... Darion is the fisherman, right?
[21:21:56] <ASCIBlue> No, Darion is the weapon master.
[21:22:00] <servus> Oh, right.
[21:22:17] <servus> Who was the fisherman? He doesn't fight back.
[21:22:40] <ASCIBlue> Devon
[21:22:57] <edbgon> devon sits there and takes quite a beating
[21:23:11] <edbgon> but he did trap me inside a small space before... effectively killing the avatar
[21:24:28] <ASCIBlue> the load times are sure as hell sweet though
[21:26:11] <wjp> still used to 10second+ load times from the original? :-)
[21:26:36] <wjp> change to immortality committed to CVS; should be in the next snapshot
[21:26:36] <ASCIBlue> Yeah. I haven't played this game in almost a decade. :D
[21:26:40] <wjp> thanks for letting me know :-)
[21:26:44] <ASCIBlue> np :D
[21:27:58] <edbgon> ahh i just grabbed cvs and compiled :)
[21:28:46] <edbgon> gotta check out these scalers and such
[21:31:15] <edbgon> hehe sweet, hq2x is kinda nice
[21:36:06] <ASCIBlue> playing this game brings back so many memories..sigh.
[21:36:17] <edbgon> absolutely
[21:36:35] <ASCIBlue> the late nights while I was in highschool.
[21:36:43] <edbgon> heh i was in grade school
[21:37:08] <ASCIBlue> back before sound cards were standard equipment..
[21:37:20] <edbgon> hehe it came with my SB16 / creative labs cd package
[21:37:29] <ASCIBlue> when overclocking by 3 Mhz was considered HUGE
[21:37:34] <edbgon> along with syndicate plus, seawolf and a few others
[21:37:39] <ASCIBlue> niiiiiiiiice
[21:37:53] <ASCIBlue> When Pagan didn't work properly with 486 SX CPU's.
[21:37:53] <edbgon> i didnt play ultima for a long time because of the memory thing though
[21:38:20] <ASCIBlue> just means you needed a boot disk for every game...
[21:38:24] <edbgon> yeah i did
[21:38:33] <edbgon> i wasnt smart enough to figure that out though
[21:38:37] <edbgon> i knew the most out of my family
[21:39:00] <ASCIBlue> my old man is a programmer so he handles the software side. by todays standards I could be a PC tech so I take care of the hardware.
[21:39:16] <edbgon> cool, i used to work as a pc tech
[21:39:28] <ASCIBlue> I thought about it but would have gotten bored doing so.
[21:39:42] <edbgon> eh it didnt pay enough
[21:39:48] <edbgon> i get over 3x as much as a programmer
[21:40:10] <ASCIBlue> you're making approx 180k per year? O.o
[21:40:23] <edbgon> hehe no
[21:40:30] <edbgon> i got a crappy hourly wage as a tech
[21:40:40] <ASCIBlue> indeed
[21:40:45] <ASCIBlue> worked for a local place huh?
[21:40:51] <edbgon> yes
[21:40:59] <ASCIBlue> explains why. :/
[21:40:59] <edbgon> they are behind with the times
[21:41:05] <ASCIBlue> isn't that the truth.
[21:41:14] <edbgon> very old versions of IIS on their servers, still only offer dial up for 20/mo
[21:42:27] * ASCIBlue nods
[21:43:39] <ASCIBlue> sounds like most of the places around here
[21:43:52] <edbgon> hehe
[21:43:58] <edbgon> this is nevada, usa, what about you?
[21:44:02] <ASCIBlue> Oregon
[21:44:09] <edbgon> ah ha, close enough
[21:44:12] <edbgon> i used to live in sweden
[21:44:19] <edbgon> but i was born here
[21:44:24] <ASCIBlue> another Swede! EEK! :P
[21:44:29] <edbgon> hehe
[21:45:05] <ASCIBlue> I was born and raised in NY
[21:45:17] <edbgon> are there lots of swedes here or something?
[21:45:31] <ASCIBlue> no, I just know another swede from a different network
[21:45:35] <edbgon> ah ok
[21:49:15] <servus> Bjorn to rock.
[21:49:20] <edbgon> haha
[21:49:32] <edbgon> absolut
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