#pentagram@irc.freenode.net logs for 1 Jan 2007 (GMT)

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[15:09:33] <TiGSTeR> greetings
[15:10:20] <wjp> hi
[15:10:44] <TiGSTeR> all Ultima 8 fans here right?
[15:11:24] <wjp> probably, yes
[15:11:51] <TiGSTeR> I'm a big fan of U8!
[15:11:57] <TiGSTeR> and I got Pentagram
[15:12:00] <TiGSTeR> and its really cool
[15:12:19] <wjp> thanks
[15:12:26] <TiGSTeR> theres just a few things I didn't like - for exmaple - no battle music
[15:12:46] <wjp> yeah, that's indeed not implemented yet
[15:13:13] <TiGSTeR> ok
[15:13:18] <TiGSTeR> another thing
[15:14:28] <TiGSTeR> the double clicking speed is FAR too quick - and I notice there is a console - surely there must be a way to make the double click speed slower - cause now u have to double click SO fast which is very anoying!
[15:15:04] <TiGSTeR> surely there is a console command to fix this!?!?
[15:16:01] <wjp> too quick, really?
[15:16:03] * wjp checks
[15:16:41] <wjp> hm, 200ms currently
[15:16:42] <TiGSTeR> yes
[15:16:43] <wjp> but it's fixed
[15:16:53] <TiGSTeR> hmmm
[15:16:59] <TiGSTeR> fixed>?
[15:17:06] <TiGSTeR> I got the latest cersion of pent!
[15:17:13] <TiGSTeR> its still too fast
[15:17:34] <wjp> fixed as in not changeable
[15:17:44] <TiGSTeR> ah I see - shit!
[15:17:57] <TiGSTeR> well now u know for next version
[15:18:06] <TiGSTeR> and make it so u can change it in the console!
[15:18:19] <TiGSTeR> speed of double clicking
[15:18:23] <wjp> please use you instead of u; 'u' is really annoying to read...
[15:18:38] <TiGSTeR> oh I'm sorry
[15:19:11] <wjp> yes, making it variable is probably a good idea
[15:19:25] <TiGSTeR> glad you like the idea
[15:19:41] <TiGSTeR> I'm surprised no one else has complained about this! :)
[15:20:11] <wjp> any idea how many milliseconds it's typically set to?
[15:21:04] <TiGSTeR> unfortunately, no :(
[15:21:18] <TiGSTeR> but I'm sure you can find out - surely?
[15:21:27] <wjp> looks like GTK has 250ms by default
[15:22:09] <TiGSTeR> what is GTK?
[15:22:36] <wjp> http://gtk.org/
[15:22:48] <wjp> "a multi-platform toolkit for creating graphical user interfaces."
[15:23:13] <TiGSTeR> oh I see
[15:24:07] <wjp> but you're right that in my current desktop it's set far slower than in pentagram
[15:24:10] <TiGSTeR> well I'm not that good at coding - last time I coded was 8 years ago when I was in high school and that was in Turbo Pascal lol :)
[15:25:06] <TiGSTeR> cool well I'm glad I could bring this matter to your and your colleges attention!
[15:25:57] <TiGSTeR> the quick mouse click speed really interferes during battle!
[15:28:11] <TiGSTeR> anyways - other than that - BRAVO!!! :) - absolutely amazing! :)
[15:28:54] <wjp> one disadvantage of increasing the double click timeout is that moving also becomes less responsive
[15:29:21] <wjp> because the avatar can't start moving until it detected that the right mouse isn't going to be double clicked
[15:30:03] <wjp> although I suppose it could use a lower value for that particular case
[15:31:05] <TiGSTeR> well - it's not just fighting - double clicking on anything becomes damn anoying! Double clicking on barrels, chests, scrolls and even yourself - very damn anoying!
[15:41:08] <TiGSTeR> Exult is also damn inpressive!
[15:41:33] <TiGSTeR> I can't find anything wrong with it!
[15:48:57] <TiGSTeR> is everyone asleep or something?
[15:58:06] <wjp> just doing other things
[16:02:12] <TiGSTeR> so when will the next version of Pentagram coming out?
[16:02:17] <TiGSTeR> any ideas?
[16:23:08] <TiGSTeR> blah
[16:23:35] <wjp> hard to say
[16:24:33] <TiGSTeR> hey wjp - are you one of the programmers for Pentagram?
[16:24:39] <wjp> yes
[16:25:04] <TiGSTeR> that's really cool - how many coders are there for it?
[16:25:51] <TiGSTeR> and which aspect of the game were you responsible for coding?
[16:26:53] <TiGSTeR> ?
[16:27:10] <wjp> we have about 3 or 4 programmers, but development is a bit slow lately, so no real active people at the moment. It'll pick up again though, I'm sure
[16:27:59] <TiGSTeR> just out of curiosity, why isn't ther battle music? I would think that would be easy to inpliment?
[16:28:32] <wjp> probably not too hard, but somebody has to take the time to sit down and do it
[16:29:25] <wjp> and we need to think up the exact conditions and timing to trigger and stop it
[16:31:53] <TiGSTeR> oh I see - so it is quite a mission
[16:32:24] <wjp> well, it's not really hard, but not entirely trivial either
[16:32:28] <TiGSTeR> if you attack Mytheran, the game crashes! LOL :)
[16:32:44] <wjp> hm, that shouldn't happen :-)
[16:32:46] * wjp checks
[16:32:57] <TiGSTeR> for me it did :)
[16:33:12] <TiGSTeR> I attacked him with death blast - his own spell ;)
[16:34:19] <wjp> ah, here too
[16:35:18] <TiGSTeR> hehe :)
[16:36:06] <TiGSTeR> oh and the monster AI isn't great - but you guys already warned us of that!
[16:36:51] <TiGSTeR> in a way it's worked to ones advantage cause it's much harder for monsters to attack you!
[16:37:14] <TiGSTeR> oh and another bug
[16:37:15] <TiGSTeR> :
[16:38:15] <TiGSTeR> oh never mind
[16:38:19] <wjp> hm, fixed the crash, but now Mythran stands entirely still while killing the avatar with a spell
[16:38:45] <wjp> I thought he was supposed to do some spellcasting animations
[16:38:51] <TiGSTeR> when you summon a daemon, are you supposed to aim the speel at someone?
[16:38:58] <TiGSTeR> or aim at the floor?
[16:39:23] <wjp> aim at the floor, then it asks you for a target
[16:39:43] <TiGSTeR> ah
[16:39:44] <TiGSTeR> ok
[16:39:46] <TiGSTeR> thought so
[16:39:48] <TiGSTeR> another bug
[16:40:14] <TiGSTeR> when you summon a daemon, the daemon doesn't ask who to kill - it just attacks you!!! LOL ;)
[16:41:11] <wjp> hm
[16:41:54] <TiGSTeR> I thought maybe your supposed to aim at the enemy target - that's why I asked!
[16:41:57] <wjp> ok, Mythran crash is fixed; it'll be in the next snapshot
[16:42:09] <TiGSTeR> excellent! :)
[16:45:09] <TiGSTeR> deamon bug?
[16:45:31] <wjp> at least the spell from the cheat menu does indeed directly attack me in pentagram
[16:46:05] <wjp> I'm just looking at the game scripts to see if that is right
[16:46:20] <TiGSTeR> ohhhh
[16:46:25] <TiGSTeR> I hadn't thought of that
[16:46:33] <TiGSTeR> yes, it was the cheat spell
[16:46:44] <TiGSTeR> maybe the real one won't!
[16:47:10] <TiGSTeR> just the cheat spell maybe
[16:47:30] <TiGSTeR> or maybe you acutally have to aim the deamon spell on the target you wish to attack?
[16:50:34] <wjp> it could be
[16:52:46] <TiGSTeR> anywayz I have to go soon - I won't be able to come here again - as mirc gives me problems at home - I'm on a friemds pc - just like to say keep up the good work - I am very impressed - remember just the double click speed (very important) and combat music (not as important, but still VERY cool! ;) - take care - maybe we'll meet again!
[16:54:58] <wjp> thanks for the bugreports
[16:55:48] <TiGSTeR> np man - I'll keep an eye out for more! Farewell, Avatar! ;)
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