#pentagram@irc.freenode.net logs for 21 Apr 2004 (GMT)

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[09:20:48] <Quester> a... is anybody here?
[09:22:03] <Quester> Kirben, wjp?
[09:22:07] <Quester> Darke?
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[09:26:53] <Quester> hm
[09:28:05] <Quester> ayaya
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[09:29:40] <DarkeZzz> Yo?
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[09:29:45] <Quester> !!!
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[09:29:47] <Quester> :)
[09:30:05] <Quester> Darke, please, look it: http://www.uo.khakassia.ru/3dparty/pentagram
[09:30:22] <Quester> I make a simle engine for pentagram
[09:30:40] <Quester> maybe you like it
[09:33:36] <Darke> Aieeee! Another pentagram webpage design! *panicedhiding!*
[09:33:56] <Darke> Probably want to pester wjp, just because everyone else does about it. *grin*
[09:34:07] <Darke> Not too bad though. *grin*
[09:34:31] <Quester> :) it is siple, I try make it like exult engine
[09:51:26] <Darke> Heh. I think we're trying to wait 'til after we've got a vaguely playable engine, rather then something still in beta, before we update our webpage. *grin*
[09:52:37] <Quester> if you place come info on site, many peoples will not asking you about project progress
[09:54:34] <Avatar-1> that's what I said
[09:54:53] <Avatar-1> ...and that's what they said :P
[11:48:12] <Quester> wjp
[11:48:19] <wjp> hi
[11:48:23] <Quester> hi
[11:48:27] <Quester> please, look it: http://www.uo.khakassia.ru/3dparty/pentagram
[11:51:40] <Quester> what you say?
[11:52:18] <Avatar-1> do you know how to set up forums
[11:52:29] <wjp> dark blue on black is not the most readable colour combination
[11:52:31] <wjp> Avatar-1: sure
[11:52:48] <Avatar-1> no, talking to Quester
[11:52:55] <Avatar-1> that looks like a *very* basic site
[11:53:12] <Quester> yes, I try make it like exult site
[11:53:25] <Avatar-1> do you know how to host forums
[11:54:28] <Avatar-1> that site would have taken five minutes to do up
[11:54:37] <Avatar-1> it's not really the kind of thing you can try and garner interest in
[11:55:22] <Quester> ok, if you want "heavy" site, a can do this
[11:55:50] <Avatar-1> I just don't see what that site really offers
[11:56:01] <Avatar-1> and that's just my personal opinion
[11:56:06] <Avatar-1> these guys might think differently
[11:56:27] <Quester> i repeat: I just copy exult.sourceforge.net site style
[11:57:09] <Avatar-1> so what exactly are you offering then
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[11:59:20] <Avatar-1> was I too harsh
[12:20:18] <Avatar-1> ...you guys didn't even look at the URL, did you :P
[12:20:57] <Avatar-1> oh, wait, blue on black combination comment
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[14:45:19] <wjp> hi
[14:47:11] <Dominus> hi
[14:47:32] <Dominus> where are the config examples again?
[14:47:40] <Dominus> your recent ones
[14:47:44] <wjp> http://www.math.leidenuniv.nl/~wpalenst/a
[14:49:58] <Dominus> settings has access forbidden
[14:50:13] <wjp> no it hasn't
[14:50:15] <wjp> ;-)
[14:50:30] <Dominus> strange, I could have sworn... :-)
[14:51:24] <Dominus> subsections is too confusing for end users IMO, people will always forget a ( or two...
[14:51:37] <Dominus> I tend to like the multi-file one
[14:52:09] <Dominus> 2nd best would be multilevelini2
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[14:53:46] <Dominus> hi Colourless
[14:53:51] <wjp> hi Ryan
[14:54:01] <Colourless> hi
[14:54:27] <Colourless> whoa... what's with the almost instantaneous reponse times
[14:54:58] <wjp> we were actually talking about something when you walked in :-)
[14:55:23] <Dominus> [21:03:59] <Colourless> all sort of nasty hell might break loose if (on windows) people do copy pentagram.exe and the ini file (which was setup for relative paths) into different directories attempting to force different game types onto a game that clearly isn't what's in the ini file
[14:55:58] <Dominus> from yesterday. Hey such things still need to be possible. nothing more fun than confusing Exult in such a way :-)
[14:56:22] * wjp can think of several things that are more fun :-)
[14:56:33] <Colourless> you don't say :-)
[14:56:46] <Dominus> wjp: got me there :-)
[14:56:59] <wjp> unfortunately designing a config file system isn't one of them :-)
[15:05:24] <wjp> note about 'multi file': we could just make each game type have a single profile
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[15:22:20] <Dominus> ?logs
[15:22:20] <exultbot> Logs are available at http://www.math.leidenuniv.nl/~wpalenst/pentagramlog.php
[18:58:12] <Colourless> so wjp... decided on anything yet?
[19:03:39] <wjp> hm, not really
[19:04:13] <Colourless> i think we should use the windows registry ;-)
[19:04:47] <Colourless> who cares about other operating systems :-)
[19:04:56] <Colourless> oh wait... did i say that :-)
[19:05:24] * wjp didn't hear anything
[20:07:41] <wjp> hm, is it me or is CVS really slow?
[20:18:08] <wjp> oh, in other news, GCC 3.4 has been released, and it actually has PCH now! :-)
[20:18:23] <wjp> (finally... *sigh* :-) )
[20:18:56] <wjp> the release notes mention: "There are some known defects in the current precompiled header implementation that will result in compiler crashes in relatively rare situations."
[20:19:03] <wjp> any bets on if exult or pentagram will trigger that? :-)
[20:19:04] <Colourless> :-)
[20:19:22] <Colourless> :-)
[20:22:27] <wjp> I'm going through the comments in UCMachine.cpp currently
[20:22:32] <wjp> most of them are horribly outdated...
[20:23:09] <wjp> the comment in the 'implies' opcode mentions a workaround for an error which no longer seems to be triggered
[20:23:25] <wjp> so it looks like we fixed something since then
[20:23:27] <wjp> :-)
[20:24:28] <Colourless> :-)
[20:30:11] <wjp> I hope this commit won't cause too many regressions
[20:32:42] <Colourless> how so?
[20:33:05] <wjp> because I'm re-enabling some 'error = true' statements
[20:33:50] <Colourless> any particular reason why they were disabled?
[20:34:36] <Colourless> i'm guessing you don't know :-)
[20:34:38] <wjp> I think either because of the (lack of) deferred process termination or because of wrong execution order for spawned processes
[20:35:09] <wjp> there was a specific example that mentioned where it triggered, and it doesn't trigger there anymore
[20:52:35] <Colourless> going
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