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[11:36:12] <keisangi> anyone awake ?
[11:36:57] <keisangi> i'm having some trouble
[11:37:27] <Darke2> I'm awake. What might be the problem?
[11:37:44] <keisangi> in morien "birthplace" from catacombs.. i ran in a place with some rolling sphere on the floor
[11:38:14] <keisangi> i've been trying like mad to go through the fence , and since i could find a way, i looked on some tutorial
[11:38:16] <keisangi> here
[11:38:23] <keisangi> http://www.uo.com/archive/ultima8/zealansw.html
[11:38:48] <keisangi> the line that start with "Fall through."
[11:39:11] <keisangi> so i'm there, i can see a squeleton, some rolling spheres
[11:39:18] <keisangi> a small table
[11:39:29] <keisangi> but i can't figure what to do next,
[11:39:56] <keisangi> i've tryed everything, i was starting to wonder if it wasn't a problem with pentagram ?
[11:40:09] <Darke2> Hrm... I'm not familiar with that area unfortunately.
[11:40:45] <keisangi> argh
[11:40:50] <Darke2> wjp might have an idea, since I believe he's run through the entire game with pentagram.
[11:41:04] <keisangi> it's just after burying lothan
[11:41:11] <Darke2> (Though I think he's away at the moment.)
[11:41:14] <keisangi> you go to necromancer pelerinage
[11:41:37] <keisangi> in catacombs to the morien's birthpalce
[11:42:19] <keisangi> ok i'll try to ask wjp then, thanks for the info
[11:42:20] <SB-X> ?logs
[11:42:21] <exultbot> Logs are available at http://log.usecode.org/pentagramlog.php
[11:42:52] <SB-X> Check there if you don't get an answer right away!
[11:43:04] <keisangi> ok i try
[11:43:12] <Darke2> Oh, also is this in the japanese version, or english one?
[11:43:24] <SB-X> japanese? where?!
[11:43:28] <keisangi> frnch one ;)
[11:43:34] <keisangi> french
[11:43:38] <SB-X> oh
[11:43:53] <keisangi> i live in japan, but i'm french, using the french version of u8
[11:43:54] <Darke2> That should work, since it was essentially idental to the english one from memory.
[11:44:44] * Darke2 giggles. Cool.
[11:46:53] * Darke2 checks... yeah, the "core" languages were german/french/english, they all got the 1.12 patch. Spanish and Japanese were translated by other companies so were the odd ones out.
[11:49:22] <keisangi> any way of jumping through some fence then? ;)
[11:50:31] <Darke2> Whilst I appear to be able to give you details of every version of u8 sold, I do not have that knowledge unfortunately. :)
[11:51:11] <keisangi> i even tryed cheating ;)
[11:51:29] <keisangi> so far i could find a way to get past thoses fences
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[11:52:58] <SB-X> Darke2: wb
[11:53:09] <keisangi> hum i think i might just have figured it out :)
[11:53:49] <Darke2> Thanks. Untangling computer bits at the moment and bumped the wrong buttons on the wrong keyboard at the wrong time. *grin*
[11:53:50] <Darke2> Cool.
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[12:03:26] <wjp> somebody rang?
[12:04:52] <wjp> are there small spheres/marbles on the floor there? Try throwing them onto the high platform
[12:13:54] <keisangi> i'm there
[12:14:15] <keisangi> i've finaly be able to pass, just ow
[12:14:16] <keisangi> now
[12:14:37] <keisangi> i thiink it's a bit buggy of there
[12:14:54] <keisangi> i throwed bones, balls and everything
[12:15:14] <keisangi> and it finally worked, but looks more like a coincidence ;)
[12:15:32] <keisangi> anyway thanks for the reply
[12:16:08] <keisangi> and yes, this was the place .. lots of small colored sphere on the floor
[12:16:44] <wjp> if you want, you can submit a bug report about that area
[12:16:55] <wjp> we'll take a look at it at some point then
[12:17:28] <keisangi> yes, i would like too, but i don't know how to call this area
[12:18:05] <keisangi> except " the place where there's small colored sphere on the floor and a fence and you're stuck without knowing what to do "
[12:18:09] <wjp> shrine of the ancient ones, sphere-throwing puzzle
[12:18:19] <keisangi> ah nice :)
[12:18:36] <keisangi> i made a save before and after
[12:18:36] <wjp> or you can press 't' and write down the coordinates
[12:18:43] <wjp> or a save :-)
[12:18:54] <keisangi> ..before submiting a bug i will make sure this wasn't my fault
[12:19:35] <keisangi> what should i do with a save? can i upload it with the bug report? (if it's really a bug..)
[12:19:49] <wjp> yes, you can upload it
[12:20:06] <wjp> but the coordinates of the avatar there should be enough
[12:20:13] <wjp> (probably)
[12:20:49] <keisangi> ok, i'll look into it again and if it seems to me that there's some collision detection problems or bugs or whatever i'll upload eitther a save or the avatar coords..
[12:20:56] <wjp> ok, great
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[12:28:53] * Darke2 ahhs, and remembers that place now. Though it's more from remembering when wjp was debugging collision detection and the like. *grin*
[12:32:15] * Darke2 wonders what ornaments you would hang on a "computer tree"? Resistors?
[12:32:53] * Darke2 goes back to doing his homework, rather then pondering oddness. *grin*
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[13:17:10] <keisangi> damn
[13:17:57] <keisangi> that "hanoi tower puzzle really have it's name ... annoy tower puzzle ;)
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[13:29:29] <sb-x> i'm not familiar with u8. what's that?
[13:30:16] <keisangi> try searching google for "ultima 8 pagan"
[13:30:37] <keisangi> it's an old rpg.. but very nice
[13:30:52] <keisangi> from 1991 iirc
[13:31:03] <keisangi> was running on top of dos
[13:31:19] <Mrrrr> 1994 :)
[13:31:39] <keisangi> i like ufo unemy unknown from that era too .. goold oldskool game
[13:31:56] <keisangi> Mrrrr, my bad ;)
[13:32:14] <keisangi> "ufo enemy unknown
[13:32:29] <keisangi> from microprose ..
[13:36:45] <keisangi> wjp, pressing 't' gives me nothing
[13:36:56] <keisangi> i tryed from the console too
[13:37:21] <keisangi> i can't seem to be able to obtain coordinates
[13:37:46] <sb-x> keisangi: i meant whats the "hanoi tower puzzle"
[13:44:17] <keisangi> ah
[13:44:36] <keisangi> http://www.uo.com/archive/ultima8/zealansw.html
[13:45:42] <wjp> hm, it should output some statistics on the terminal
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[13:45:46] <Monochrome> sup
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[14:04:59] <keisangi> wjp, btw i compiled with: --disable-debug
[14:10:33] <wjp> hm, that might be it
[14:21:38] <keisangi> anyother way to get coords ? from console maybe ?
[14:22:45] <keisangi> hum by any chance is there's any distro you would recommend for laptops in particulary?
[14:23:02] <keisangi> atm i use ubuntu but ..
[14:24:48] <Mrrrr> I run FreeBSD/PC-BSD on mine
[14:24:51] <Mrrrr> works quite nicely
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[14:35:48] <keisangi_> Mrrrr, i was disconnected
[14:35:58] <keisangi_> last thing i saw was:
[14:36:06] <keisangi_> <Mrrrr> works quite nicely
[14:36:20] <keisangi_> i should try freebsd
[14:36:47] <keisangi_> which freebsd distro are you using ? "pc-bsd" ?
[14:36:50] <Mrrrr> yeah, its a bit more like your gentoo would be on linux side
[14:36:56] <Mrrrr> PC-BSD is a ready to use distro
[14:36:59] <Mrrrr> yeah
[14:37:18] <Mrrrr> I have normal freebsd with my own setup, but that takes time
[14:37:19] <keisangi_> is it easy to install new software and remove em ?
[14:37:28] <Mrrrr> so to mess around in, PC-BSD does a good job :)
[14:37:32] <Mrrrr> Yeah
[14:37:34] <keisangi_> does it have dependencies suport?
[14:37:35] <Mrrrr> its very easy
[14:37:38] <Mrrrr> Yup
[14:37:50] <keisangi_> looks nice
[14:37:58] <Mrrrr> FreeBSD isnt linux... but its close enough to work things out :)
[14:38:00] <keisangi_> i think i will give it a try
[14:38:05] <Mrrrr> And a hell of a lot less trouble :)
[14:38:35] <keisangi_> http://www.pcbsd.org/ is this the page ?
[14:39:09] <keisangi_> less troubles ? really ? now that sound even more interesting ;)
[14:39:25] <keisangi_> my laptop is a lenovo/ibm thinkpad x60
[14:39:29] <Mrrrr> Hmmm
[14:39:43] <Mrrrr> Stinkpads arnt the most loved nix machines :/
[14:39:52] <Mrrrr> lemme see if the forum has reports of issues with them
[14:40:03] <Mrrrr> I remember they were slightly odd in gentoo days
[14:40:14] <Mrrrr> http://dev.pcbsd.org/
[14:40:23] <Mrrrr> those are the current builds... much more interesting ;)
[14:40:29] <keisangi_> i look
[14:41:10] <keisangi_> do there's a jdk/jre and a builld of eclipse for pc-bsd ?
[14:41:26] <keisangi_> sorry for the newbie questions ;)
[14:41:50] <Mrrrr> yeah
[14:41:57] <keisangi_> i tryed lots of linuxes.. in almost 10years, but i never tryed bsd
[14:42:00] <Mrrrr> it has the ports system if you cant find it as a package :)
[14:42:10] <Mrrrr> ports is quite lovely really :P
[14:42:45] <Mrrrr> http://www.pbidir.com/
[14:42:47] <keisangi_> so i should get an iso from here: http://snapshots1.pcbsd.org/ ?
[14:42:50] <Mrrrr> thats their package site
[14:42:52] <Mrrrr> yeah
[14:42:54] <keisangi_> k
[14:42:55] <Mrrrr> I'd give that a go :)
[14:43:05] <Mrrrr> the PBI packages are something like windows installs
[14:43:19] <Mrrrr> nice and easy, little to no problems
[14:43:48] <Mrrrr> ports is there if you want newer/t or to configure an install some more
[14:44:38] <keisangi_> hmm lastest iso comes in 2 cd ?
[14:44:40] <keisangi_> PCBSD-x86-Mon-CD2.iso
[14:44:48] <keisangi_> and PCBSD-x86-Mon.iso
[14:45:30] <keisangi_> other isos from few days ago seems to be only 1 cd
[14:45:44] <keisangi_> ah no
[14:46:04] <keisangi_> so i should download 2 cd it seems..
[14:46:20] <Mrrrr> yeah
[14:46:27] <Mrrrr> CD2
[14:46:34] <Mrrrr> is if you need non-english
[14:46:50] <Mrrrr> or you want to install a few things like Opera/FF/KOffice etc
[14:47:00] <Mrrrr> I wouldnt get it, you most likely wont need it :)
[14:47:10] <keisangi_> humm faaast server :) 7mb/sec )
[14:47:12] <keisangi_> :)
[14:47:13] <Mrrrr> its just the "optional" components screen in the install
[14:47:16] <Mrrrr> wow nice :/
[14:47:21] <Mrrrr> I live on 385k :/
[14:47:29] <Mrrrr> 384 :P
[14:47:35] <keisangi_> i've finished downloading first iso :)
[14:48:05] <keisangi_> japan have speedy networks
[14:48:27] <keisangi_> i hope there's japanese support
[14:50:25] <keisangi_> thanks for the info Mrrrr
[14:51:29] <Mrrrr> Heh, the 2nd CD will have that stuff ;)
[14:51:46] <Mrrrr> Anyway - the forum/irc rooms are pretty helpful if you have an issue
[14:51:50] <Mrrrr> Im off to work, cheers :)
[15:01:12] <sb-x> wth?
[15:01:15] <sb-x> ubuntu works on laptops
[15:01:38] <keisangi_> i know i'm using it right now
[15:01:43] <keisangi_> gusty gibbon
[15:06:05] <sb-x> :)
[15:06:11] <sb-x> how is it? im not upgrading for a while
[15:06:24] <keisangi_> newer ;)
[15:06:33] <keisangi_> no show stopper
[15:06:39] <keisangi_> so far
[15:06:52] <keisangi_> but i would like to test something else
[15:07:09] <keisangi_> it's kind of fun to me to test other systems
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[18:26:50] <keisangi> Mrrrr, you're there ?
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