#pentagram@irc.freenode.net logs for 22 Aug 2003 (GMT)

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[14:04:43] <Colourless> hi
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[14:15:28] <wjp> hi
[14:15:38] <wjp> (just to get my #exult and #pentagram windows identical again ;-) )
[14:16:00] <wjp> except of course that that last statement (and this one) is screwing things up
[14:16:03] <Colourless> yeah well they are not anymore
[14:16:04] <wjp> :-)
[14:16:33] <wjp> only differences were s/exult/pentagram/ and the date the topic was set :-)
[14:18:33] <Colourless> well, now i'm guessing there are more differences than similarities
[14:20:31] <wjp> not quite yet :-)
[14:20:50] <wjp> 15 lines were the same
[14:21:01] <wjp> at 8 (now 9) different
[14:21:15] <Colourless> how about number of characters
[14:21:22] <wjp> those join messages are quite long
[14:22:38] <wjp> but I think the differences are catching up quite fast :-)
[14:23:39] <Colourless> and it's all because of you
[14:23:46] <Colourless> you could have remained quiet
[14:24:02] <Colourless> you think i cared that you said hi to me in both chans?
[14:24:07] <Colourless> no of course i didn't
[14:24:44] <wjp> ah, but you said hi too in both channels
[14:24:53] <wjp> even though the members are exactly the same
[14:25:02] <wjp> ;-)
[14:25:24] <Colourless> yeah well, i didn't look at who was in here, and who was in there
[14:26:19] <Colourless> and you never know, someone might be looking at the exultbot logs, and it would be a good idea if it seemed like i was greeting the channel when i entered
[14:26:56] <Colourless> I now count 21 lines of differences
[14:31:09] <Colourless> SoBig.F is more than just a little annoying
[14:33:27] <wjp> I actually managed not to get a single copy
[14:33:46] <wjp> quite a lot of bounces claiming I sent one, though
[14:34:54] <Colourless> the bounces are the annoying thing
[14:35:39] <Colourless> the ratio of bounces to actual emails with the virus is absurdly high... indicating that email virus detection programs are fundamentally flawed
[14:35:54] <wjp> yes
[14:35:57] <Colourless> they are using up more bandwith, as far as I am concerned than the worm itself
[14:36:06] <wjp> they shouldn't send a bounce to a virus that is known to spoof senders
[14:36:15] <wjp> (i.e., pretty much all of them :-) )
[14:36:43] <Colourless> Klez was the last one to not spoof iirc
[14:37:04] <Colourless> or more specifically, it did spoof
[14:37:22] <Colourless> but it left evidence of where the email still originated from\
[14:39:05] <Colourless> they say things are only going to get worse on monday and tuesday
[14:39:13] <wjp> yes... returning college students
[14:41:26] <wjp> I can't wait... *sigh*
[14:47:43] <Colourless> Ah ha. Ultima X has been officially announced
[14:47:54] <Colourless> it's.... a MMORPG :-)
[14:48:08] <wjp> no surprises there :-)
[14:48:15] <wjp> do you have a url?
[14:48:17] <Colourless> http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/030822/225019_1.html
[14:49:14] <wjp> funny, some of those ideas in the first few paragraphs sound suspiciously like what RG was planning
[14:49:33] <Colourless> :-)
[14:49:43] <Colourless> it actually sounds really ambitious
[14:50:12] <wjp> it does
[14:50:18] <Colourless> and woe be me to say it... EA might actually be atempting to actually do some innovating, even if the ideas might not be theirs
[14:50:26] <wjp> hm, multiple avatars?
[14:50:35] <Colourless> yeah i saw that
[14:50:40] <wjp> or maybe not
[14:50:46] <wjp> the wording is a bit vague
[14:51:15] <Colourless> i think by avatar they are meaning someone who is 'pure' in regards to the virtues
[14:51:36] <wjp> hm, www.uxo.ea.com is 403?
[14:52:02] <Colourless> probably something intended to balance good and evil in the game. It would be the ultimate goal for a good character
[14:52:12] <wjp> yes
[14:52:30] <wjp> they refer to it as "status of avatar" later on
[14:52:48] <wjp> "the avatar" was probably a mis-wording
[14:53:15] <wjp> if executed properly it sounds like it could be quite good
[14:53:30] <wjp> of course press releases are supposed to sound like that :-)
[14:54:00] <Colourless> a small article: http://www.homelanfed.com/index.php?id=16555
[14:54:29] <Colourless> some screenshots: http://www.gamespydaily.com/news/screenshots.asp?id=5359 (grabbed from gameplay movie i'm guessing)
[14:56:07] <wjp> according to that homelanfed article more info will be released today; will have to look again tonight :-)
[14:57:26] <wjp> graphics look pretty good I guess
[14:57:44] <wjp> (I really haven't been keeping up with how modern 3d games look, though, so I have nothing recent to compare it with)
[14:57:59] <Colourless> nothing special, but you don't really expect that from a mmorpg
[14:58:18] <Colourless> and i don't know how it compares with other mmorpg :-)
[14:58:48] <wjp> hm, what's the most recently released mmorpg?
[14:59:47] <wjp> I don't think I know any except UO, EQ, Asheron's Call and one of which I can't remember the name
[14:59:52] <Colourless> no idea
[14:59:58] <Colourless> AC2
[15:00:04] <Colourless> i think :-)
[15:01:43] <wjp> time to go; I'll brb
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[15:20:13] <wjp> back
[15:21:09] <Colourless> wb
[15:25:01] <wjp> hm, are you getting delays of 12-24 hours on SF lists too?
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[19:03:23] <Dominus> hi
[19:04:05] <Dominus> wjp: I'm getting weird delays of the ML list
[19:04:13] <Dominus> I mena exult ML :-)
[19:04:16] <wjp> glad it isn't just me, then :-)
[19:05:37] <Dominus> for example I got your "[Exult-general] exult/exult studio crash again" at 2 am this morning
[19:05:58] <Dominus> and "[Exult-general] exult crashes when map-editing" at 11:49 today
[19:06:00] <wjp> let me guess, a few hours _before_ the one I sent earlier? :-)
[19:06:04] <wjp> right :-)
[19:06:19] <wjp> I sent those in reverse order
[19:06:34] <wjp> (with a bit of a hiccup on the first one, so I had to resend it, though)
[19:06:37] <Dominus> I was really wondering what you were refering to when I read the "first" one
[19:06:52] <Dominus> of course I though there were delays again...
[19:07:45] <Dominus> he he, the list archive is really usefull now :-)
[19:08:05] <Dominus> most active month January 2002
[19:08:24] <wjp> ooh, 6 people in #uwadv
[19:08:38] <wjp> well, 5 people and one bot :-)
[19:08:52] <Dominus> now you ahve them
[20:03:45] <servus> All the models are nearly done for uwadv, tell me when you want them :P
[20:10:16] <Dominus> today there seems to be a serious crossreferencing going around the exultbot channels...
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