#pentagram@irc.freenode.net logs for 22 Jan 2004 (GMT)

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[00:33:17] <servus> Script kiddies...
[00:35:35] <sbx> guh
[00:35:54] <sbx> hi servus
[00:35:58] <servus> Hi sbx.
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[12:46:13] <Colourless> hi
[12:50:23] <Fingolfin> hi
[12:50:38] <Fingolfin> wjp, Colourless: you don't happen to know what bonus one gets by wearing all 4 of Nasher's items together? :-)
[12:50:54] <wjp> hm, I only found 2
[12:50:56] <Colourless> i have no idea. I only found 2 of them
[12:51:00] <wjp> :-)
[12:51:11] <wjp> belt and ring?
[12:51:17] <Fingolfin> I wear the boots right now
[12:51:19] <Fingolfin> +3 dex
[12:51:23] <Fingolfin> bought from the Djin
[12:51:27] <Colourless> i think i found a cloak
[12:51:32] <Fingolfin> interesting =)
[12:51:35] <wjp> so together we have all 4? :-)
[12:51:39] <Fingolfin> I also saw the belt, I think, in a shop
[12:51:48] <wjp> belt and ring were in shops
[12:51:53] <Fingolfin> ah yes, right at the start of act ii in HotU, i.e. in that drow camp
[12:51:57] <Colourless> you get the belt from a drow
[12:51:58] <Fingolfin> interesting :-)
[12:52:32] <Fingolfin> I am just curious what effect the 4 together would have
[12:52:41] <wjp> yeah, me too
[12:52:55] <Colourless> well, i could check the toolset :-)
[12:55:44] <Fingolfin> that's cheating!!!
[12:55:46] <Fingolfin> so please do it <g>
[12:55:50] <Colourless> itemproperty itProp = ItemPropertyAbilityBonus(IP_CONST_ABILITY_DEX, 7);
[12:55:52] <Colourless> IPSafeAddItemProperty(oBoot, itProp , 0.0f, X2_IP_ADDPROP_POLICY_REPLACE_EXISTING);
[12:55:52] <Colourless> itProp = ItemPropertyACBonus(7);
[12:55:52] <Colourless> IPSafeAddItemProperty(oCloak, itProp , 0.0f, X2_IP_ADDPROP_POLICY_REPLACE_EXISTING);
[12:55:52] <Colourless> itProp = ItemPropertySkillBonus(SKILL_DISCIPLINE, 10);
[12:55:52] <Colourless> IPSafeAddItemProperty(oGlove, itProp , 0.0f, X2_IP_ADDPROP_POLICY_REPLACE_EXISTING);
[12:55:52] * Fingolfin searches the NWN forums now
[12:55:54] <Fingolfin> didn't google anything
[12:56:10] <Fingolfin> there's a ton on the NWN forums =)
[12:56:15] <Colourless> itProp = ItemPropertyAbilityBonus(IP_CONST_ABILITY_STR, 7);
[12:56:15] <Colourless> if (sRing1 == "x2_nash_ring")
[12:56:15] <Colourless> {
[12:56:15] <Colourless> IPSafeAddItemProperty(oRing1, itProp , 0.0f, X2_IP_ADDPROP_POLICY_REPLACE_EXISTING);
[12:56:15] <Colourless> }
[12:56:15] <Colourless> else
[12:56:16] <Colourless> {
[12:56:18] <Colourless> IPSafeAddItemProperty(oRing2, itProp , 0.0f, X2_IP_ADDPROP_POLICY_REPLACE_EXISTING);
[12:56:20] <Colourless> }
[12:56:22] <Fingolfin> http://nwn.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=311375&forum=82&highlight=nasher+nimble
[12:56:41] <Fingolfin> instead of +3, all is +7 then... hmmm
[12:57:05] <Fingolfin> +7 dex / +7 str / +7 discipline / +7 ac..... hmmm
[12:57:20] <Colourless> +10 to discipline
[12:57:24] <Fingolfin> ah yeah
[12:57:34] <Fingolfin> not that discipline would be that useful
[12:58:02] <Fingolfin> to quote: "Aye , you get those items far too late to be of any use really , pity there were'nt more , a good idea but not pushed very far ."
[12:58:28] <wjp> discipline is quite useful for a fighter
[12:58:35] * Fingolfin notices that gamebanshee doesn't list his main weapon
[12:58:43] <wjp> of course at that point you probably have epic gloves of discipline
[12:59:10] * Fingolfin is only level 20 at this point, and has nothing epic at all :-)
[12:59:27] <Fingolfin> interesting: "Equip all 4 Nasher items in the ruins beneath the beholder cave. While most magic items don't work in there, the Nasher items still work just"
[12:59:40] <wjp> I think I had epic gloves of concentration, spellcraft and discipline at the end
[12:59:45] <wjp> (multiple sets of each)
[13:00:24] <Fingolfin> Nasher's Ring - Rizolvir in the City Core (north central)
[13:00:24] <Fingolfin> Nasher's Boots - djinni bottle store
[13:00:24] <Fingolfin> Nasher's Gauntlets - Artuur in Zorvak'Mur
[13:00:24] <Fingolfin> Nasher's Cloak - cave in West of Lith My'athar
[13:01:06] <wjp> hm, I apparently confused gauntlets and belt :-)
[13:01:23] * Colourless too :-)
[13:01:44] <Colourless> of not, i can't remember which i had
[13:01:49] <Colourless> s/of/or/
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[13:07:09] * Fingolfin currently wields offhand a highroad rapier (the +3 one; gamebanshee only lists the +1 one, which I also had, but sold; both are keen and have acid damage)
[13:07:20] <Fingolfin> at one point I wore both of the high road rapiers, both glowing green
[13:07:50] <Fingolfin> and when I was at that LAN party two weeks ago, some people came over to my machine to see what game I was playing, and one asked if that is a star wars game (because I was wearing two "lightsabers" :-)
[13:07:59] <wjp> hehe :-)
[13:09:29] <Fingolfin> now my main hand weapon is a rapier I "borrowed" from nathyraa. Forgot the name, something with "Death FOO".
[13:09:40] <Fingolfin> can't find it being listed in the forums or on gamebanshee, hm
[13:10:16] <wjp> the one with haste on it?
[13:10:25] <Fingolfin> this enchangint smithee is really nice, although he's buggy (I am very glad I saved before trying him - because he took my money but didn't do anything the first time I tried
[13:10:40] <Fingolfin> no, it has no haste on it. I could enchant it of course. but my robes already give me haste :-)
[13:11:01] <wjp> robes with haste? which ones?
[13:13:38] <Fingolfin> robes of the dark moon
[13:13:44] <Fingolfin> haste, -1 concentration, though
[13:13:48] <Fingolfin> but I can afford that part
[13:13:50] <Fingolfin> :-)
[13:14:05] <wjp> ah, monk only
[13:14:05] <Fingolfin> that death rapier has +5 (+8 against undead; positive energy dmg against undead); +3 dex; and something else I forgot
[13:14:14] <Fingolfin> yeah but I am ranger/thief
[13:14:32] <wjp> I wonder which robe I was wearing at the end
[13:14:32] <Fingolfin> with Use Magic item skill 16 or so (but it already worked with a much lower one, I think)
[13:14:49] <wjp> had the Robe of Vecna for a long time
[13:15:29] <Fingolfin> Robe of Balpheron looks cool, wonder if I can wear it =)
[13:15:48] <wjp> ah, right, that one :-)
[13:15:54] <Fingolfin> robe ov vecna must rock if you are a sorc/wiz, i guess... lots of bonus spell focus, yummy
[13:16:48] <Fingolfin> all that cool equipment I find and which is useless to me <sigh>. like those heavy armor stuff. or those cool bows (well I always keep one around in case I need ranged attack, but makes you really wonder about doing a boxman character, maybe even arcance archer, the next time around)
[13:17:11] <Fingolfin> also I think I want to play once more but with a magic char... maybe a sorce/red dragon dual? :-)
[13:17:12] <wjp> I had a fairly nice longbow
[13:17:13] <Colourless> the robes i was wearing were monk only too... but i was a theif/assassin/shadowdancer with high use magic devices skill
[13:17:24] <wjp> (being an elf allowed me to use a longbow even though I was a wizard)
[13:17:58] <wjp> there was a really nice bow for sale in chapter 2, IIRC
[13:18:08] <wjp> but that was Arcane Archer-only
[13:18:19] <Fingolfin> Colourless: yup, same here (rogue/ranger with use magic device skill)
[13:18:20] <wjp> (I did qualify for that class but never took a level in it)
[13:18:23] <Fingolfin> and also elf =)
[13:19:00] <Fingolfin> (actually, a femalre "drow" - I started the char before I had any expansion, and it was quite funny to see how perfectly my self-made drow fits in with the HotU drows :-)
[13:19:21] <Fingolfin> i.e. dark blue skin, light blonde/white hair - melds in perfectly with the crowd =)
[13:19:26] <wjp> :-)
[13:19:45] <Colourless> i was half elf so i couldn't use a long bow, but i wanted the few extra skillpoints per levelup
[13:19:52] <wjp> did the drow call you an 'above ground elf' (whatever the term for that was) ?
[13:20:11] <Colourless> surface elf?
[13:20:23] <Fingolfin> wjp: yeah :-(
[13:20:24] <wjp> hm, yeah, that, and an elven word for it
[13:20:33] <Fingolfin> I mean this is just a subclass, not a real class
[13:20:42] <Fingolfin> I just did it for fun
[13:20:51] <Fingolfin> my char is chaotic good, with very low charisma :-)
[13:20:52] <wjp> why not Noldor? ;-)
[13:20:57] <Colourless> drow ingame are Elf subclassed IIRC
[13:21:24] <Fingolfin> probably
[13:21:50] <wjp> Fingolfin: you just died, btw :-) (I'm reading the Silmarillion currently)
[13:21:55] <Fingolfin> pfft
[13:22:04] <Fingolfin> but not before inflicting seven wounds on Morgoth
[13:22:06] <wjp> nice fight, though :-)
[13:22:11] <Fingolfin> and boy, he's been telling tales about that ever since!
[13:22:27] <wjp> yeah, the wounds didn't quite heal :-)
[13:22:50] <Fingolfin> hehe, even us High Elf Lords aren't quite above poisiong our blades
[13:23:16] <Fingolfin> (although truth be told, I was just a bit lazy that day and didn't clean my weapong before the fight, but let's keep quiet about that, OK? <g>)
[13:23:27] <Fingolfin> s/weapong/weapon/
[13:23:29] <wjp> :-)
[13:24:22] <Colourless> Interesting factoid: using the toolset you can can see that Aribeth is actually an Elf subclassed as Half-Elf. :-)
[13:24:44] <wjp> weird
[13:24:53] <Fingolfin> interesting =)
[13:26:39] <Fingolfin> can one also change the subclassing etc. of a char using the toolkit? (of your own char, that is) ?
[13:27:24] <Colourless> actually NWN can do it
[13:27:34] <Fingolfin> because I actually just checked and my char is *not* subclassed - I wanted to but apparently for some reasons only changed the looks, but didn't set a subclass :-(
[13:27:49] <Fingolfin> yeah well when I create a char I can change it
[13:28:13] <Colourless> it is possible to modify your savegames
[13:28:31] <Fingolfin> w/o the toolkit?
[13:28:53] <Colourless> there are tools that can do it
[13:29:21] <Colourless> problem though all that stuff is windows based
[13:31:23] <Colourless> you need 2 tools. One that can open the savegame file and extract/replace the Module.ifo file and another that will modify it.
[13:35:40] <Colourless> or if you really wanted to, a small script could be writen that will do it for you :-)
[13:36:46] <Fingolfin> heh
[13:36:50] <Fingolfin> ah it'S not that important
[13:36:54] <Colourless> the nwn override system can allow you to add new things to a game in progress
[13:36:58] <Fingolfin> I don't think it has any influence on the game flow
[13:37:12] <Fingolfin> just wanted my char to be "perfect" ;-)
[13:38:18] <Fingolfin> I noticed that there is a cap to a bonus you can get on your main skills... i.e. I couldn't get more than 34 dex (until I leveled up, gained one more natural dex point, for a total of 35)...
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[14:59:34] * wjp hmms; cvs still down
[15:12:08] <wjp> heh, I see they adjusted their estimate on the site status page
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[22:39:25] <wjp> ugh
[22:39:46] <wjp> we seem to have lost a few months of CVS during that last SF CVS downtime
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[22:53:43] <EsBee-Eks> uh
[22:54:02] <EsBee-Eks> wjp: that sounds bad
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[22:54:11] <wjp> not as bad as it sounds
[22:54:18] * wjp points at the SF site status page
[22:55:20] <wjp> (and even in the worst case scenario, I still have the latest code here locally)
[22:55:31] <SB-X> ah ok
[22:57:14] <wjp> there seem to be 23 similar support requests in the queue ahead of mine
[23:23:32] <wjp> well, let's hope things will be resolved soon
[23:23:41] * wjp will go to bed in the meantime :-)
[23:23:44] <wjp> 'night
[23:37:55] <SB-X> bye