#pentagram@irc.freenode.net logs for 23 Sep 2007 (GMT)

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[04:18:09] <pupnik> hmm i found u8 unopened original floppies on ebay - with cloth map, and all the good stuff
[05:08:05] <Lightkey> and it's miiiine! *muhahahahaha*
[05:21:06] <pupnik> $13 shipping tho
[05:21:20] * pupnik has cloth map from u5 still
[05:45:05] <Lightkey> is this EA compilation CD worth anything?
[05:45:43] <Lightkey> or rather: how much? :)
[05:46:27] <pupnik> are ultimas on it?
[05:47:00] <pupnik> you can sell just about anything on ebay
[05:47:09] <pupnik> i'm looking at buying an ultima 1-6 CDrom atm
[05:47:29] <Lightkey> I see an ultima 1-6 cd too
[05:48:00] <Lightkey> 5 €, 9 hours
[05:48:58] <pupnik> heh did not know you were in .de
[05:49:13] <Lightkey> on the EA compilation is Ultima VII, Space Hulk, Popolous II, Shadow Caster, Savage Empire, Ultima Underworld, Seven Cities of Gold, Yaeger´s Air Combat, Hong Kong Mahjong Pro, Wing Commander Academy
[05:49:17] <Lightkey> you did
[05:49:25] <Lightkey> you just forgot again
[05:49:28] <pupnik> ah yes
[05:50:02] <pupnik> well if you want the 1-6 CD let me know so i don't bid on it
[05:50:40] <Lightkey> <Lightkey> hessen, that is not that far away from würzburg :)
[05:52:23] <pupnik> :)
[05:52:28] * pupnik points to beers
[05:59:52] <servus> I still have my cloth maps.
[06:00:29] <servus> Savage Empire and Ultima VIII are some of my most favourite Ultimas :)
[06:24:00] <pupnik> hmm never played martian dreams / savage empire
[06:36:44] <Lightkey> I already have Savage Empire but as original on 5 ½" floppies according to the box but it came with 3 ¼" floppies which look like originals too.. and for just 5 DM at a local store :D
[06:39:39] <pupnik> nice
[06:39:55] <pupnik> i am hosting ultima emulators on my site, so i should have an original imo
[06:40:03] <pupnik> which is why i would like that 1-6 CD
[06:41:25] <pupnik> s/emulators/engines
[06:42:30] <servus> I bought most of the ultimas as they came out, in the store or from magazines.
[06:42:35] <Lightkey> yes sorry, I am calcing battles for Planetarion
[06:46:03] <pupnik> btw, Akalabeth was released for $34,99 - over $100 USD today
[06:48:00] <Lightkey> look what FM Towns versions of LucasArts adventures go for now ;)
[06:48:12] <Lightkey> insane
[06:57:14] <pupnik> yeah
[07:00:19] <pupnik> well, it's that one ebay seller
[07:19:00] <Lightkey> nah, no interest in the Ultima I-VI CD
[07:19:12] <servus> Most games were ~$32 back then.
[07:19:26] <servus> I'm shocked how much they are now... but I bought Ultima Underworld II on diskette for $55 USD
[07:19:33] <servus> (new, from Egghead)
[07:20:27] <Lightkey> well, it has not changed since at least ten years
[07:20:48] <Lightkey> when I started
[07:23:51] <Lightkey> the average was ~80 DM as new price then and is ~40 € now, and now there are way more budget editions, those are not the same admittedly but still :)
[07:31:09] <servus> I bought it new in 1992 :P
[07:32:05] <Lightkey> oh I meant pc games in general
[07:39:18] <pupnik> hmm
[07:39:52] <pupnik> have you tried any of the underworld remakes?
[07:40:31] <pupnik> http://reconstruction.voyd.net/index.php?event=project&typeKeyword=remakesuw
[07:49:37] <Lightkey> wjp knows more about the reverse engineered UU engines
[07:51:43] <pupnik> sometime 2008 i hope to get a tablet with opengl 2.0 es from nokia
[07:52:18] <pupnik> but right now i should be testing my pentagram build
[07:52:48] <pupnik> it's fantastically fast
[07:54:24] <Lightkey> I think you already said that.. like a few times :p
[07:55:22] <pupnik> yeah
[07:55:34] <pupnik> i'm too tired to work on anything right now so i'm just blathering
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[14:40:25] <pupnik_> yaay i got the U1-6 CD for 5 eu
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[16:36:34] <wjp> nice
[18:43:49] <Lightkey> the original ultima 8 german edition went for 1 €...
[18:44:37] <Lightkey> maybe because of the 10 transfer cost from austria to germany, but still
[18:45:02] <pupnik> argh, i should have bid on it!
[18:45:20] * lupine_85 still has his first U8 CD
[18:46:40] <pupnik> i also prefer to bid on items within beating-up range
[18:47:02] <pupnik> but seller of 1-6 CD is legit :)
[18:47:15] <pupnik> he runs a Ultima fansite
[18:47:30] <pupnik> and bank is located in his hometown etc
[18:48:01] <Mrrrrz0r> I still have my U8 CD too
[18:48:11] <Mrrrrz0r> the one that everyone has, from old SoundBlaster cards
[18:48:22] <Lightkey> it was the rare floppy version with voice pack too
[18:48:24] <Mrrrrz0r> The Yellow/Blue/White CD with Wing Commander etc :P
[19:33:52] <pupnik> moo
[19:34:06] <pupnik> argh i think i threw that away
[19:34:08] * pupnik checks
[19:35:01] <pupnik> yup threw away all three sb cds
[19:36:54] <pupnik> still have my 1993 simtel CDrom :)
[20:11:52] <Lightkey> I think I will get me the Dragon Edition even though it is already at 38 €
[20:11:56] <Lightkey> just like that :D
[20:15:14] <pupnik> from that reseller?
[20:16:04] <Lightkey> that in 1.5 hours
[20:16:58] <pupnik> i still can't believe how awesome pentagram runs
[20:17:04] <pupnik> heh sry
[20:17:26] <pupnik> is there a lot of scripting left to do?
[20:17:36] <pupnik> i have no idea what is yet to be implemented - if it will get much slower
[20:22:38] <wjp> all scripting is already in
[20:23:13] <wjp> combat AI needs some improving; that might have an effect on performance
[20:51:34] * pupnik does the air-guitar dance
[20:56:27] <lupine_85> IIRC, the "combat" mostly consists of frantic clicking :p
[20:59:20] <Lightkey> that is how the games are nowadays :p
[20:59:35] <Lightkey> the seller has some interesting other biddings...
[21:00:13] <lupine_85> Primal... now there's a decent combat system
[21:01:20] <lupine_85> (and FF, but you couldn't really convert that to work in the Ultima universe :D)
[21:21:32] <pupnik> anybody know deb packaging?
[21:21:35] <pupnik> i'd like to symlink /usr/share/games to a vfat fs
[21:21:38] <pupnik> but dpkg complains about not being able to set perms when installing
[21:22:10] <lupine_85> yeah, that's about right
[21:22:41] <lupine_85> you can probably set a --ignore-<something> flag, but... executables on a vfat partition are a potential security risk
[21:23:01] <pupnik> well share is generally read-only game data
[21:23:37] <pupnik> problem is users of the nokia tablets typically have 50MB or much less space free
[21:23:44] <pupnik> so currently they have to install game data manually
[21:24:06] <pupnik> i'd like to make <game>-data.deb packages that can install to the mmc or sd card
[21:42:21] <Lightkey> I was outbid :(
[21:42:37] <Lightkey> it was over 50 €
[21:54:12] <pupnik> graah
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