#pentagram@irc.freenode.net logs for 25 May 2004 (GMT)

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[08:04:40] <Dominus> hi
[08:05:20] <wjp> hi
[08:05:43] <Dominus> the errors I got on generating the text files was caused by Java and not Xalan (Java coming with older Xalan). If I had read the Xalan FAQ I'd have known that earlier :-)
[08:13:43] <watt> hi... yeah.. that.. caused a lot of problems during previous projects for me.
[08:14:48] <watt> especially since the doco guy from that project neglected to mention it and we he stopped working so did our docs.
[08:14:50] <Dominus> which one? The Java having older Xalan or the not-reading-the-FAQ?
[08:14:56] <watt> yeah.
[08:15:04] <Dominus> :-)
[08:16:15] <watt> That's when I learned of the magic of $JAVA_HOME/jre/lib/endorsed... or %JAVA_HOME%\lib\endorsed for the windows fans.
[08:16:49] <watt> err.. forgot the second \jre
[08:17:38] <Dominus> yeah, I just found out about that endorsed magic
[08:18:25] <Dominus> not to mention that it didn't work at all for me when I tried Java 1.5 beta this morning. There is more broken in that one.
[08:18:26] <watt> yeah.. I suprised Sun hasn't bothered to fix that in 1.4.2
[08:18:42] <watt> really?
[08:18:57] <watt> thought they'd at least be on top of that
[08:19:06] <Dominus> wouldn't process at all for me
[08:19:34] * watt hasn't played with 1.5 yet.. I should.. I want generics badly.
[08:19:47] <watt> and autoboxing
[08:19:54] <Dominus> :)
[08:22:03] <Dominus> also Java is dirty. it doesn't clean up properly when uninstalling or upgrading...
[08:23:51] <Dominus> and installs java web start and doesn't give me a chance to deinstall it properly
[08:35:24] * watt also needs to start looking into C# and Mono. Very interesting stuff IMO
[09:01:17] <Dominus> bbl (or not)
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[13:14:43] <ElleVeeDee> glappo, ej.
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[13:27:07] <Colourless> hi
[13:27:27] <Darke> gr33tz d00d!!!
[13:27:35] * Darke hides!
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[13:30:33] * Darke yelps! and rubs his tail. That's just not nice. *pout*
[13:31:26] <Colourless> i never said i was a 'good' alligned dragon
[13:33:42] * Darke files Colourless under 'right' aligned dragon.
[13:33:53] * Darke is a 'full justification' bunny. *noddle*
[13:34:05] <wjp> hi ElleVeeDee, Colourless, Darke
[13:34:05] <Colourless> har har.... yes... the right side is definately evil :-)
[13:36:39] <Darke> Makes sense!
[13:37:49] * Darke joins the Turquiose Side in their crusade to annoy and amuse both the Light and the Dark Side(tm).
[13:39:03] <Darke> Phear my l33t Surreality Powerz(tm)! "This is not the lapine you are looking for... want a cookie?"
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[15:54:15] <watt> yaayyy! I got a callback about a programming job! They might actually be serious.
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[18:07:40] <Dominus> hell ho!
[18:07:50] <Dominus> what are you up to, fellow pagans?
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[18:09:37] <wjp> hi Dominus
[18:09:49] <wjp> hm, dinner, bbl :-)
[18:10:31] * Dominus wonders why wjp can't eat his dinner on a regular schedule like everyone else
[18:10:49] * Dominus is so tired today that his ramblings don't make *ANY* sense
[18:40:22] <wjp> back
[18:41:04] <Dominus> wb
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[19:04:58] * wjp rummages around a bit in pentagram to find something to do
[19:05:29] <wjp> maybe I should take another shot at pathfinding...
[19:06:10] <wjp> but that would first require some animation refactoring
[19:13:44] * Dominus is uncovering strange CDs from his past. Now featuring "Anarchist Academy" an anarchist Hip-Hop band (so really not the usual hip hop)
[19:22:46] <sbx> :}
[19:30:39] <sbx> {:
[19:34:11] <sbx> can someone define "process" for me?
[19:34:19] <sbx> in Pentagram/U8 terms
[19:35:30] <sbx> all I know is everything in the world has a process and also you call parts of the engine processes
[19:36:19] <wjp> well, I wouldn't say "everything has a process"
[19:36:46] <sbx> only guessing from conversation heard in here :)
[20:22:05] <Dominus> damn, they really amplify music on CDs nowadays (I think there was a slashdot on this some time ago). My old CDs are way to silent
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