#pentagram@irc.freenode.net logs for 25 Sep 2005 (GMT)

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[00:18:51] <watt> pff, indeed.
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[13:34:48] <Annorax> Hi, i am having an issue with pentagram. I've read the readme and downloaded the most recent version, but when I try to run the game, I get No games set up in configuration.
[13:34:48] <Annorax> Please read the README for instructions.
[13:35:01] <Annorax> but I have it all set up according to the readme...
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[15:11:56] <Annorax> Hi, i am having an issue with pentagram. I've read the readme and downloaded the most recent version, but when I try to run the game, I get "No games set up in configuration. Please read the README for instructions." but I have it all set up according to the readme...
[17:24:06] <watt> Hi Annorax.
[17:25:01] <watt> Could you give some more info? OS, location of u8 install, pentgram install, and pentagram.ini file?
[17:29:15] <watt> hmmm.. beginning to think it's time for a forum or a user mailing list......
[18:16:59] <Annorax> Hi, my OS in Win2k. U8 is in C:\Games\Ultima\Ultima8, Pentagram is C:\Games\Ultima\Pentagram, pentagram.ini is in C:\Games\Ultima\Pentagram
[18:17:06] <Annorax> yes, a forum would be nice :)
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[18:33:03] <watt> hmmm.. ok.. do you ever see a message like: "No configuration files found."
[18:34:54] <watt> probably not, but it's alway the first place I go on config problems.
[18:39:35] <watt> I'm also inclined to ask what sections are in your pentagram.ini - I believe you want a [pentagram] section and a section named the same as your 'defaultgame=' setting
[19:08:41] <watt> hmm.. the QuickAvatarMoverProcess could use some work.... well, one step at a time I guess.
[19:11:17] <watt> Although, it does make me think that shift by itself should be bindable..... while walking, you'd want to hold down and release shift to modify the speed of movement.... arg.
[19:12:25] <watt> hmmm... and the flip side to that is that it currently affects the quick mover, but we'd want it to affect the normal movers too.
[19:14:05] <watt> Well, it kinda shoots a hole in both theories. Suggestions?
[19:17:09] <watt> We want to keep it bindable IMO for gamepads... bindable modifiers? ie. Hold R1 on gamepad to walk slow, R2 to run?
[21:54:42] <watt> ok... think I've determined that the mods were a bad idea, but I like the depress and release of the keys being separate commands.
[21:57:06] <watt> seems like a more logical idea would be like the mouse states - like "depressed", "released", "held", "clicked", and "double clicked"
[21:58:12] <watt> but that might not work quite right either. This stinks.
[22:04:16] <watt> think I'll go throw crusader into my playstation to see if it can inspire ;-)
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[22:29:23] <Alectrus> Hi, I was here earlier about an issue with Pentagram
[22:38:57] <watt> yup, still there?
[22:46:05] <Alectrus> Hi, yes
[22:46:58] <Alectrus> When I launch the game, I come to a command prompt type thing and stderr.txt says: No games set up in configuration.
[22:47:07] <Alectrus> Yet I have the config from the readme.txt
[22:49:12] <watt> right... what sections do you have in pentagram.ini?
[22:51:49] <Alectrus> I have the basic one, [u8] with the path to my ultima 8 install
[22:52:01] <Alectrus> Copied from readme.txt
[22:53:06] <watt> path=C:\Games\Ultima\Ultima8 ??
[22:54:11] <Alectrus> path=C:\Games\Ultima\Ultima8, yes
[22:55:24] <watt> hmm.. okay.. what did you get below the line saying :"Scanning config file for games:"?
[22:57:15] <Alectrus> Pentagram: Pentagram Menu, English
[22:57:29] <watt> then next 2?
[22:58:06] <Alectrus> Same as in stderr.txt: No games set up in configuration.
[22:58:06] <Alectrus> Please read the README for instructions.
[22:58:24] <Alectrus> stderr.txt also says this twice: Config file buggy: Key/value pair found outside a section in line 1
[22:58:25] <watt> ah... ok... let me think a moment
[22:59:12] <watt> could you mail your pentagram.ini to mjimenez@ersnet.net?
[22:59:52] <watt> Think it's clear that pentagram sees it, but something's not quite right.
[23:00:06] <Alectrus> You mean as an attachment?
[23:00:59] <watt> whichever way you want is fine.
[23:01:28] <Alectrus> Sent.
[23:01:52] <Alectrus> But the path to U8 is the only thing there...
[23:03:41] <watt> oh... I think all you need is a [pentagram] section above.
[23:04:03] <watt> I have something like this:
[23:04:06] <watt> [pentagram]
[23:04:06] <watt> data=data
[23:04:06] <watt> height=400
[23:04:07] <watt> width=640
[23:04:08] <watt> scaler=2xSai
[23:04:10] <watt> bpp=32
[23:04:12] <watt> fullscreen=no
[23:04:14] <watt> sfx=yes
[23:04:16] <watt> music=yes
[23:04:18] <watt> midi_driver=timidity
[23:04:20] <watt> timidity_config=/usr/share/timidity/timidity.cfg
[23:04:22] <watt> cheats=no
[23:04:24] <watt> debugging=no
[23:04:26] <watt> ttf=yes
[23:04:28] <watt> defaultgame=u8
[23:04:30] <watt> console_font=@data/fixedfont12.ini
[23:04:32] <watt> Then I have the [u8] section
[23:05:47] <watt> a few of those will vary for you.
[23:07:03] <Alectrus> It had no affect, the same thing happens
[23:07:31] <watt> send again?
[23:08:22] <Alectrus> Sent
[23:13:04] <watt> ok.. I'm trying it and getting the same error.. gimme a few minutes.
[23:13:27] <Alectrus> Ok, thank you
[23:16:47] <watt> what are you using to edit this? It's got a few interesting characters at the beginning?
[23:16:59] <Alectrus> Notepad, probably the problem
[23:17:14] <Alectrus> But it has no problem editing other config files, like for Exult
[23:17:33] * watt scratches head... strange.....
[23:18:19] <Alectrus> I just tried it in Textpad and i think it's working...
[23:19:15] <Alectrus> That's it, the game runs now
[23:19:42] <Alectrus> It's strange how Notepad is fine for other editing but not for Pentagram...
[23:19:51] <watt> ok... that's weird... still broken for me using your config... but I'll look into it a bit more.
[23:20:28] <Alectrus> I know Notepad is known for inserting junk into the beginning of files and it seems Pentagram can't sort through it and doesn't read the file properly with it there
[23:20:39] <watt> it looks like it put extra character at the begining of the file
[23:21:50] <Alectrus> Thank you for your help, it is working nice now :)
[23:22:23] <watt> No prob.. now I gotta figure out what the deal is on it.. different encoding or something.
[23:22:37] <Alectrus> In Textpad I used ANSI, not sure what Notepad uses
[23:28:56] <watt> strange... I never had this type of issue with notepad....
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[23:30:54] <watt> hehe.. the file command claims its an mpeg.
[23:31:32] <Alectrus> really?
[23:31:33] <Alectrus> odd
[23:33:28] <Alectrus> The ini files mentions cheats, do the original cheats work?
[23:34:20] <watt> um.. not really sure, I nver used the original cheats.. there is a cheat submenu if you click the avatar though.
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[23:39:05] <watt> well.. time to get my lazy bones to the gym.
[23:43:04] <watt> or not.. forgot family guy starts soon ;-)