#pentagram@irc.freenode.net logs for 31 Jul 2003 (GMT)

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[10:55:43] * Cashman is running an old 1.2gig harddisk with the cover off - thats got to be good for it!
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[12:00:35] <Fingolfin> what bunny?
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[13:51:09] <Colourless> hi
[14:06:17] <wjp> hi
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[15:05:50] <wjp> back
[15:05:52] <wjp> read Dominus' comments yesterday?
[15:05:58] <Colourless> wb
[15:06:13] <Colourless> some od
[15:06:20] <Colourless> s/od/of/
[15:06:56] <wjp> it would seem to work as expected
[15:07:11] <wjp> with the expected issues
[15:09:32] <wjp> I'm somewhat confused as to why the u-umlaut key is producing an SDLK_BACKQUOTE, though
[15:10:21] <Colourless> what's it's position on the keyboard?
[15:10:37] <wjp> right of P, IIRC
[15:10:50] <Colourless> so that would be [{
[15:11:00] <wjp> on a US keyboard, yes
[15:11:09] <Colourless> need to do a better examination of what's going on
[15:11:20] <wjp> can you switch keymaps easily in xp?
[15:11:31] <Colourless> yes
[15:12:23] <Colourless> i noticed some oddities going on that need further investigating anyway
[15:16:31] <Colourless> ok, windows now thinks i am using a german keyboard
[15:17:26] <wjp> I haven't been able to find a way to set the current keymap without restarting X easily
[15:17:37] <wjp> (I just start a second X with the other keymap currently)
[15:19:21] <Colourless> only seems to effect new processes. Existing processes still seem to use the old keymap
[15:19:55] <wjp> I guess that's somewhat convenient for your irc client, at least :-)
[15:20:10] <Colourless> :-)
[15:21:18] <Colourless> time to set it back to a us keyboard. I must experiment later
[15:21:27] <Colourless> i didn't actually think about using a keymap myself :-)
[15:25:09] <Colourless> so, what type of keyboard do you actually use?
[15:27:07] <wjp> me? uh..
[15:27:14] <wjp> 'normal' US one, I guess
[15:27:53] <Colourless> hmm. is there a reason you don't have a localized dutch one?
[15:27:54] <wjp> complete with the 3 windows keys, even :-)
[15:28:08] <wjp> I've never seen a localized dutch keyboard
[15:29:01] <Colourless> well WindowsXP says they exist :-)
[15:29:57] <wjp> hm, X has one too it seems
[15:30:54] <wjp> if I understand this keymap format correctly, it's quite different
[15:32:06] <Colourless> doesn't seem 'that' different
[15:33:07] <Colourless> has a u-umlaut key
[15:33:27] <wjp> u-trema, you mean ;-)
[15:33:41] <Colourless> uh, whatever. Don't have those things in english :-)
[15:33:50] <wjp> it has a different function in dutch than in german
[15:33:56] <Colourless> it's got a key that types
[15:34:06] <wjp> in german it changes the letter it's on; in dutch it indicates a new syllable
[15:35:02] <Colourless> i haven't found < and > yet :-)
[15:35:22] <Colourless> now i have :-) it's that \| key
[15:35:23] <wjp> try the backslash ke
[15:35:24] <wjp> y
[15:35:27] <wjp> :-)
[15:35:33] <wjp> key <BKSL> { [ less, greater ] };
[15:39:28] <Colourless> ok, what key do you press for backslash
[15:40:44] <Colourless> nw. it's alt+-
[15:41:24] <Colourless> neat. lots more characters than a normal us keyboard
[15:41:41] <Colourless> including superscript characters, fractions
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[20:16:12] <Dominus> ?seen Darke
[20:16:12] <exultbot> darke is known as DarkeZzz since Wed Jul 23 13:23:08 2003 (GMT)
[20:16:49] <Dominus> I was pretty sure he was only known as DarkeZzz for longer than that....
[20:21:34] * DarkeZzz grumbles. 'Net was down most of the night. How annoying.
[20:26:11] * DarkeZzz hunts down various urls so he can read y'all's scintellating conversation.
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