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[18:01:04] <keisangi> hi there
[18:01:15] <keisangi> i have a little problem with pentagram
[18:01:53] <keisangi> my keymap isn't english and i can't seems to access console, cause the key ~ isn't at the same place as on english keyboard
[18:02:20] <keisangi> the goal was to be able to open console so i could enable ingame minimap
[18:02:29] <keisangi> someone could help ?
[18:03:51] <watt> oh.
[18:04:06] <watt> hmm... one sec
[18:04:51] <keisangi> great :)
[18:05:07] <keisangi> i was thinking noone would notice me :)
[18:08:13] <keisangi> congrats for all the hard work btw ..
[18:08:52] <keisangi> it compiles fines, runs well .. just great
[18:09:11] <watt> In the file named "u8bindings.ini" you can specify default key bindings (also can be done in pentagram.ini, but this is easier for the moment)
[18:09:36] <keisangi> i search
[18:10:01] <watt> You make want add a binding like f3=ConsoleGump::toggle (or change f3 to a more preferred key)
[18:10:23] <watt> s/make/might
[18:11:31] <keisangi> f3 is ok
[18:11:34] <keisangi> great i test
[18:11:46] <watt> Out of curiosity, what is your keymap set to?
[18:12:18] <wjp> keisangi: are you using the japanese U8?
[18:13:09] <keisangi> no, it's french version
[18:13:17] <keisangi> i live in japan, but i'm french
[18:13:30] <keisangi> so my computer have japanese keymap
[18:13:38] <wjp> watt: incidentally, you have a bug about this assigned to you ;-)
[18:13:50] <watt> I know :-(
[18:14:04] <watt> I really need to address this stuff.
[18:14:06] <keisangi> humm, i've found u8bindings.ini in pentagram sources
[18:14:27] <keisangi> should i copy this file to /home/keisangi/.pentagram/ ?
[18:15:25] <keisangi> i've installed the game in /usr/local (default)
[18:16:00] <watt> hmm... is there a u8bindings.ini in /usr/local/share/Pentagram?
[18:16:01] <keisangi> but u8bindings.ini is nowhere to be found except in the pentagram sources dir i've just compiled
[18:16:08] <keisangi> i look
[18:16:46] <wjp> I'm not sure if pentagram actually looks for u8bindings.ini by default
[18:16:54] <keisangi> root@kanzume:~# find /usr/local/share/ -iname "*u8bindings.ini*"
[18:16:54] <keisangi> root@kanzume:~#
[18:16:57] <keisangi> nothing
[18:17:18] <keisangi> so i should recompile it ?
[18:17:21] <watt> wjp: is this one of the compiled in files?
[18:17:24] <wjp> watt: yes
[18:17:37] <wjp> keisangi: no, you can add the binding to ~/.pentagram/pentagram.ini
[18:17:40] <watt> ah.
[18:17:51] <keisangi> wjp, how should i do ?
[18:17:52] <wjp> do you have an [u8] section in there?
[18:17:58] <keisangi> yes
[18:17:59] <keisangi> i do
[18:18:15] <wjp> then you need to add a [u8:bindings] section with the line 'f3=ConsoleGump::toggle' in it
[18:19:46] <wjp> I think
[18:19:50] <watt> I think it might be [u8:keys] actually - at least that's what HIDManager::save stored to
[18:19:56] <wjp> oh, keys?
[18:20:07] <wjp> yes, you're right
[18:20:08] <keisangi> i tryed like this:
[18:20:10] <keisangi> [u8]
[18:20:10] <keisangi> # replace 'path to U8 directory' with the directory containing 'u8.exe'
[18:20:10] <keisangi> path=/home/keisangi/Ultima8
[18:20:10] <keisangi> [u8:bindings]
[18:20:10] <keisangi> f3=ConsoleGump::toggle
[18:20:15] <keisangi> it didn't worked
[18:20:17] <wjp> [u8:keys], sorry
[18:20:23] <keisangi> i try with [u8:keys]
[18:21:10] <wjp> unfortunately we have a bug that you can't close it with F3
[18:21:35] <wjp> but you can type ConsoleGump::toggle in the console to close it. (It has tab completion.)
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[18:22:44] <keisangi> humm
[18:22:52] <wjp> fullscreen mode?
[18:22:56] <keisangi> it worked, but then, i was unable to close console ;)
[18:22:58] <keisangi> yes
[18:23:02] <wjp> 18:21 <@wjp> unfortunately we have a bug that you can't close it with F3
[18:23:08] <wjp> 18:21 <@wjp> but you can type ConsoleGump::toggle in the console to close it. (It has tab completion.)
[18:23:24] <wjp> or GUIApp::quit to leave pentagram
[18:23:38] <keisangi> great i take notes :9
[18:23:41] <keisangi> :)
[18:24:04] * watt hangs head in shame....
[18:24:21] <watt> OK, I'm going to fix that this weekend - promise.
[18:25:23] <keisangi> hehe
[18:26:00] <keisangi> MiniMapGump::toggle
[18:26:15] <keisangi> you should put that info somewhere in the docs too
[18:26:19] <keisangi> on the website
[18:27:25] <keisangi> cause the website says there's a minimap, but it doesn't explain how to activate it ..
[18:27:38] <wjp> hm, yes
[18:28:29] <wjp> I guess I should finish that 'Console commands' section I was adding to the documentation
[18:29:22] <keisangi> not sure how but maybe i could help somehow ?
[18:30:37] <wjp> I already wrote part of it, so I should probably just finish it; thanks for offering, though
[18:32:04] <keisangi> i was smoking a cig outside
[18:32:07] <keisangi> np
[18:32:19] <keisangi> okay, i'm off to tenebrae now :)
[18:32:23] <keisangi> hehe
[18:32:54] <watt> http://jcmc.indiana.edu/vol9/issue1/Japanese_Keyboard.gif
[18:33:31] <watt> Ah - tilde and grave are not the same key - I think we actually map only to grave -
[18:34:59] <keisangi> i think maybe i've found a problem ?
[18:35:19] <keisangi> since i added [u8:keys]
[18:35:39] <keisangi> nothing other keys except f3 work anymore
[18:36:05] <keisangi> it looks like if you add [u8:keys] in pentagram.ini, you have to define all keys in there
[18:36:20] <wjp> hm, interesting
[18:36:37] <keisangi> for exemple "i" for invotory, or ESC for main menu, don't work anymore
[18:37:10] <wjp> for now it's probably easiest to copy all keys from u8bindings.ini to pentagram.ini
[18:37:20] <keisangi> i will try that
[18:39:35] <keisangi> i tryed to add f4=MiniMapGump::toggle
[18:39:40] <keisangi> just to test ;)
[18:42:27] <keisangi> impressive :)
[18:43:18] <keisangi> humm i wonder if i can get rid of the debug messages ?
[18:43:35] <wjp> you'll have to recompile for that, currently
[18:43:41] <keisangi> should i recompile with --disable-debug ?
[18:43:52] <wjp> let me check
[18:44:14] <wjp> that will do it, yes
[18:45:06] <wjp> if you want to keep debug mode enabled, look for DrawConsoleNotify in gumps/ConsoleGump.cpp
[18:45:51] <keisangi> what does that do ?
[18:46:37] <wjp> that's the specific line in the code that shows the debugging messages
[18:46:59] <keisangi> hum
[18:47:18] <keisangi> i'll try with and with debug mode, to see ..
[18:47:34] <keisangi> i probably have no use for the debug messages anyway
[18:47:42] <keisangi> unless for bug reporting ?
[18:48:37] <wjp> you can still see them anyway when you open the console
[18:52:13] <keisangi> perfect then
[18:52:49] <keisangi> i wonder if it would be difficult to customize u8 gfx a bit ..
[18:53:09] <keisangi> like try to have bigger resolution gfx
[18:53:41] <keisangi> a bit more detailled gfx ..
[18:55:35] <keisangi> hum .. i can't seems to be able to jump ?
[18:55:44] <Mrrrrz0r> I started working on higher res ones a few years back
[18:55:56] <keisangi> ah really ?
[18:55:58] <Mrrrrz0r> I would like to do a full tileset of high res ones
[18:56:07] <keisangi> that would be great
[18:56:10] <Mrrrrz0r> if pentagram supports custom gfx tho :)
[18:56:28] <Mrrrrz0r> I did them for a UO server, about 400 tiles worth
[18:57:00] <keisangi> iirc on u8, for making the avatar jump, one needed to press both mouse buttons right ?
[18:57:23] <keisangi> it didn't seems to work..
[18:57:43] <keisangi> 400tiles .. that's a bunch of them ;)
[18:59:39] <keisangi> hum no jumps ? ;)
[19:00:16] <Mrrrrz0r> ummm
[19:00:30] <Mrrrrz0r> worked for me
[19:00:46] <keisangi> how do you do ?
[19:01:32] <wjp> you need to press both mouse buttons
[19:01:44] <keisangi> i tryed
[19:01:44] <wjp> (at the same time)
[19:01:57] <keisangi> yes that's what i did
[19:02:00] <keisangi> i retry
[19:02:24] <wjp> you'll jump to where the cursor is, so the cursor shouldn't be too far away
[19:03:20] <keisangi> hum sorry no jump here
[19:03:24] <keisangi> no matter what
[19:03:33] <keisangi> wierd
[19:03:55] <keisangi> i'm using a thinkpad x60 laptop with an usb mouse
[19:04:07] <keisangi> i compiled pentagram with thoses options:
[19:04:20] <keisangi> ./configure --enable-hq2x --enable-all-bilinear --disable-debug
[19:04:40] <keisangi> evreything else seems working
[19:05:03] <wjp> does running work?
[19:05:14] <wjp> what happens if you press the left mouse button while running?
[19:06:12] <keisangi> i try
[19:06:58] <keisangi> ok, it works
[19:07:01] <keisangi> my bad
[19:07:25] <keisangi> i thought i had to press the 2 buttons at the same time
[19:08:10] <keisangi> but in fact you need to press right mouse button 1st and then while pressing rmb, press lmb too
[19:08:40] <keisangi> ok it's getting late here .. 4:10am
[19:08:43] <keisangi> time to Zzzz a bit
[19:08:57] <keisangi> thanks for all the help !
[19:09:06] <keisangi> see you
[19:09:08] <wjp> good night
[19:09:16] <keisangi> 'nite :)
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