#pentagram@irc.freenode.net logs for 5 Sep 2004 (GMT)

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[04:15:46] <Sheng_Gradilla> :)
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[08:21:15] <Colourless> hi
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[10:15:28] <wjp_> hi
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[12:19:16] <wjp_> hm, after talking Mythran the camera stays stuck on Mythran and the avatar stays in stasis
[12:19:26] <wjp_> I wonder if I'm accidentally killing too many processes again
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[12:54:09] <wjp_> hehe, Mythran's (english) usecode has pieces of German and French in it :-)
[12:58:28] <wjp_> that 'hang' with Mythran is triggered by the implementation of loitering, it seems
[12:59:10] <wjp_> after you finish talking with Mythran, Item::enterFastArea is spawned, Mythran's enterFastArea in turn calls Npc::cSetActivity
[12:59:29] <wjp_> (each spawn followed by an implies/suspend)
[12:59:43] <wjp_> so the talk usecode ends up waiting for the LoiterProcess to finish
[12:59:54] <wjp_> (which currently never happens)
[13:00:26] <wjp_> but cSetActivity really should return a Process
[13:01:32] <wjp_> maybe I should cheat and have it spawn a LoiterProcess but return a DummyProcess :-)
[13:12:52] <wjp_> hm, actually that might be the best solution
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[14:00:42] <banan> hello
[14:01:17] <Fl00der> hi
[14:01:26] <banan> hey Fl00der
[14:01:33] <wjp_> um, hi again :-)
[14:01:37] <Fl00der> hi
[14:01:38] <banan> hehe:D
[14:01:42] <Fl00der> :D
[14:02:22] <banan> lemme get this straight, pentagram is a program, right?
[14:02:33] <wjp_> yes
[14:02:36] <banan> ok
[14:02:45] <Fl00der> we are not satanists :P
[14:02:57] <banan> haha:D
[14:03:40] <Fl00der> it's u8 fan project
[14:03:50] <banan> really?
[14:04:13] <Fl00der> an early stage of development tho
[14:04:22] <banan> I see
[14:04:30] <Fl00der> I guess, I don't belong to this team :P
[14:04:34] <banan> hehe
[14:04:44] <Fl00der> http://pentagram.sourceforge.net/index.php
[14:04:51] <banan> thanks for the link
[14:04:54] <Fl00der> np
[14:05:41] <wjp_> I actually updated the homepage yesterday :-)
[14:06:02] <banan> hehe:D that's great, man!:D
[14:06:48] <Fl00der> :)
[14:07:51] <banan> aaah, nostalgic memories
[14:08:27] <Fl00der> :)
[14:08:46] <Fl00der> from ultima games, I have only completed U9 :-/
[14:09:21] <banan> hehe
[14:09:36] <banan> I've only completed U8 :-/
[14:09:38] <banan> hehe
[14:09:40] <Fl00der> hehe
[14:09:53] <Fl00der> and I guess wjp has completed almost all
[14:09:55] <Fl00der> :P
[14:09:58] <wjp_> not almost :-)
[14:09:58] <banan> hehe
[14:10:05] <Fl00der> at least U7, U8, U9, right?
[14:10:15] <wjp_> U1-U9 and UW1-2
[14:10:20] <banan> ok
[14:10:23] <Fl00der> :O
[14:10:27] <Fl00der> that's every ultima :O
[14:11:35] <banan> hehe
[14:13:23] <Fl00der> well, i'm too old now to complete any ultima game
[14:13:30] <Fl00der> not enough time anymore :-/
[14:13:49] <banan> too bad
[14:13:58] <Fl00der> yea, 20 years old
[14:14:09] <wjp_> that's still young :-)
[14:14:22] <Fl00der> well true is, I'm not that good
[14:14:39] <Fl00der> I have now that point in u7 where I can ask from crown jewelry and cant do nothing :/
[14:14:42] <Fl00der> what I have to do next?
[14:14:54] <Fl00der> I have joined fellowship
[14:15:02] <Fl00der> almost
[14:15:20] <wjp_> do you really want to do that? well, your choice :-)
[14:15:29] <Fl00der> it isn't have to? :O
[14:15:29] <wjp_> I usually go talk with Chuckles at that point
[14:15:49] <Fl00der> well, then I won't join if I dont have to
[14:15:53] <Fl00der> chuckles?
[14:16:00] <wjp_> the jester in the castle
[14:16:04] <Fl00der> ah
[14:16:16] <Fl00der> I play ultima 7 and ask help, if you don't mind P:
[14:16:16] <Fl00der> :P
[14:16:18] <Sheng_Gradilla> there are two storylines
[14:16:21] <Fl00der> :O
[14:16:25] <Fl00der> really?
[14:16:32] <Sheng_Gradilla> in one, you join the fellowship
[14:16:33] <Fl00der> how can I know what is what+
[14:16:33] <banan> hehe
[14:16:42] <Sheng_Gradilla> in the other, you follow Chuckles' clue
[14:16:43] <Fl00der> sheng: what if I don't? is it easier?
[14:16:55] <Fl00der> ok, I choose cuckles
[14:16:57] <Fl00der> chuckles*
[14:17:01] <banan> me too
[14:17:07] <banan> *chuckles*
[14:17:09] <wjp_> the lesser evil :-)
[14:17:12] <banan> haha
[14:17:13] <Fl00der> hehe
[14:17:23] <Fl00der> ok, now I know it
[14:17:37] <banan> I'm going to reinstall Ultima VIII
[14:17:42] * Fl00der adds "Complete ultima 7" before I die list
[14:17:48] <banan> haha!:D
[14:17:57] <banan> good luck!:D
[14:18:11] <Fl00der> I have completed Ultima 7 Forge of virtue already ;)
[14:18:13] <Fl00der> thanks
[14:18:36] <Fl00der> OMG
[14:18:38] <Fl00der> tell me
[14:18:43] <Fl00der> I have to use 1.2 to complete U7=
[14:18:44] <Fl00der> ?
[14:18:47] <Sheng_Gradilla> also, do not forget to pay a visit to Rudyom and follow his hint as well
[14:18:58] <Fl00der> I know that wand
[14:19:01] <Fl00der> and what it does
[14:19:07] <Sheng_Gradilla> not that one
[14:19:10] <Fl00der> but about version?
[14:19:16] <Sheng_Gradilla> that's a plot follow-up
[14:19:32] <Sheng_Gradilla> I am talking about the carpet
[14:19:39] <Sheng_Gradilla> he wants to give it to you
[14:19:49] <Sheng_Gradilla> and hints you about its whereabouts
[14:20:04] <Fl00der> yes, I have used it
[14:20:09] <Fl00der> but about the version?
[14:20:14] <Fl00der> I have to use 1.2 to complete U7?
[14:20:19] <Sheng_Gradilla> no
[14:20:24] <Sheng_Gradilla> not necesarily
[14:20:27] <Fl00der> good
[14:20:41] <Fl00der> I use cheats if I have to to jump over bugs
[14:20:56] <Fl00der> ok, I have to talk chuckles with right lines
[14:21:05] <Sheng_Gradilla> use cheats, and the bugs will bite you!!!
[14:21:14] <Fl00der> yes
[14:21:26] <banan> hehe'
[14:21:26] <Fl00der> but I don't use them to advantage my completing U7
[14:21:34] <Sheng_Gradilla> cheats are for testing and debugging purposes, not for playing
[14:21:40] <Fl00der> yes
[14:21:56] <Fl00der> women food girls supper ? ?
[14:22:00] <Fl00der> which I choose? :P
[14:23:46] <Fl00der> OMG
[14:23:48] <Fl00der> this is long one
[14:23:52] <Fl00der> H E L P
[14:24:33] <wjp_> you need to figure out the rules of the game
[14:24:45] <Fl00der> yes
[14:24:57] <Fl00der> Im now on "then prove it, talk to me"
[14:25:10] <Fl00der> if I press wrong line, I must start over
[14:25:21] <wjp_> yes :-)
[14:25:27] <wjp_> so choose the right line ;-)
[14:25:31] <Fl00der> hehe
[14:25:39] <Fl00der> give me a tip ;)
[14:25:44] <Sheng_Gradilla> only a dumbass would not figure it out
[14:25:45] <Fl00der> I'm so start of the game
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[14:25:49] <wjp_> that line was right
[14:25:52] <wjp_> so was that one
[14:26:06] <wjp_> but the line I'm saying now is wrong
[14:26:11] <banan> haha
[14:26:13] <Sheng_Gradilla> look at each word closely
[14:27:03] <Fl00der> hmm
[14:27:21] <Fl00der> "Hello Fool" can't be
[14:27:27] <wjp_> no, that's wrong
[14:27:37] <Sheng_Gradilla> Chuckles always speaks following the rules of the game
[14:27:45] <Fl00der> yes?
[14:27:46] <Fl00der> and+
[14:27:46] <Fl00der> ?
[14:27:58] <Fl00der> im not good with riddless
[14:28:00] <Sheng_Gradilla> look at his dialogs closely
[14:28:29] <Fl00der> it must be, hi or hello chuckles
[14:28:56] <wjp_> hello is wrong, hi is right
[14:28:57] <Sheng_Gradilla> certainly nothing with a "hello" or a "Chuckles" in it
[14:29:04] <banan> is pentagram better than dosbox?
[14:29:12] <wjp_> banan: not yet
[14:29:33] <banan> ok
[14:29:39] <Fl00der> ah,
[14:29:45] <Fl00der> one step closer
[14:29:58] <Fl00der> omg
[14:30:00] <Fl00der> 4 lines now
[14:30:20] <Fl00der> Trouble, too much, many problems, I need answers
[14:30:36] <Fl00der> I guess it's many problems
[14:30:38] <Fl00der> am I right? :P
[14:30:41] <wjp_> no
[14:30:42] <Sheng_Gradilla> nope!
[14:30:46] <Fl00der> pfft
[14:30:50] <Fl00der> I'm not good at this
[14:30:51] <Sheng_Gradilla> that breaks the rules of the game
[14:31:00] <Sheng_Gradilla> look at each word closely
[14:31:12] <Sheng_Gradilla> speak each word aloud
[14:31:19] <Sheng_Gradilla> read everything Chuckles says
[14:31:23] <wjp_> Sheng_Gradilla: you just broke the rules too :-)
[14:31:25] <Sheng_Gradilla> and find the pattern
[14:31:28] <wjp_> and so did I by saying your nick :-)
[14:31:36] <Fl00der> :D
[14:31:47] <Fl00der> so I must choose "I need answers" ?
[14:31:53] <Fl00der> thats only aloud here
[14:31:58] <Sheng_Gradilla> ok, following the rules
[14:32:13] <wjp_> or I should say: so did I since I said your nick
[14:32:14] <Sheng_Gradilla> look at each word close
[14:32:25] <banan> try harder
[14:32:26] <Sheng_Gradilla> speak each word loud
[14:32:33] <Sheng_Gradilla> read all Chuck says
[14:32:43] <Fl00der> ah
[14:32:48] <Fl00der> Im getting inside of this now
[14:32:48] <wjp_> Sheng knows how to play the game :-)
[14:32:54] <Fl00der> hehe
[14:32:55] <banan> hehe
[14:33:14] <Sheng_Gradilla> I know the Game
[14:33:38] <wjp_> yes, it seems so
[14:33:47] <wjp_> of what shall we speak? :-)
[14:33:54] <banan> haha
[14:34:00] <wjp_> we can not speak of what this room is for, I am sad to say
[14:34:01] <Fl00der> hehe
[14:34:08] <banan> haha
[14:34:12] <Sheng_Gradilla> Do not forg... er do not lose how to play the game
[14:34:20] <banan> hehe
[14:35:25] <wjp_> I am glad that it is safe to go get some tea, so I will go do that now :-)
[14:35:33] * Fl00der laughs a lot
[14:36:04] <Fl00der> Lolo says after converstion: I would like to give chuckles a black eye" :D
[14:36:12] <Fl00der> hmm
[14:36:15] <Sheng_Gradilla> Lolo? :D
[14:36:17] <Fl00der> it's not over yet
[14:36:20] <Fl00der> ah shit
[14:36:21] <Fl00der> Iolo
[14:36:28] <banan> syntax error detected:P
[14:36:30] <Fl00der> almost 20 years I thought it was Lolo
[14:36:33] <Fl00der> :D
[14:36:35] <banan> haha
[14:36:41] * EsBee-Eks cuckles.
[14:36:45] <banan> lol
[14:36:59] <Fl00der> I mean about 10
[14:37:01] * EsBee-Eks chuckles too.
[14:37:05] <Sheng_Gradilla> found out how to play the game?
[14:37:09] <Fl00der> nope
[14:37:16] <Fl00der> I see just lines
[14:37:45] <Fl00der> chuckles might give me clue
[14:37:47] <banan> how can you fix bugs in U8, I thought EA 'owned' the source code
[14:37:48] <Fl00der> but now I must choose from 4
[14:37:48] <Sheng_Gradilla> I guess you have no hope
[14:37:51] <Fl00der> :D
[14:37:57] <Fl00der> so I have to ask tips
[14:38:23] <wjp_> that line was right :-)
[14:38:28] <Fl00der> which one ? :P
[14:38:35] <wjp_> "so I have to ask tips" :-)
[14:38:38] <Fl00der> :D
[14:38:41] <Fl00der> heh
[14:38:56] <Fl00der> that would be big of thee < right line now?
[14:39:09] <Fl00der> I need it immet...
[14:39:14] <wjp_> yes
[14:39:15] <Fl00der> immed*
[14:39:19] <Fl00der> ok
[14:39:30] <wjp_> even your note "right line now" was right
[14:39:37] <Fl00der> :)
[14:39:48] <Fl00der> omg
[14:39:49] <wjp_> banan: I can not say for that would break the rules of the game :-)
[14:39:52] <Fl00der> this is so big quest
[14:40:07] <Fl00der> what I choose
[14:40:10] <Sheng_Gradilla> that one too
[14:40:19] <EsBee-Eks> Inde... Trul.. defi... yes.
[14:40:20] <Fl00der> murder him, gold, friendship, smile, nothing?
[14:40:27] <Fl00der> I need to solve this
[14:40:27] <Fl00der> :P
[14:40:36] <EsBee-Eks> I know the game!
[14:40:44] <wjp_> I think he would like a smile
[14:40:54] <Fl00der> k
[14:41:00] <Sheng_Gradilla> or gold :P
[14:41:09] <Fl00der> smile was right answer :P
[14:41:26] <EsBee-Eks> there can be more than one
[14:41:30] <Sheng_Gradilla> you broke the rule of the game!!
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[14:42:02] <Sheng_Gradilla> smile was the right choice
[14:42:02] <Fl00der> ah
[14:42:05] <Fl00der> I solved quest
[14:42:13] <Fl00der> now I am happy and can go drink cop of coffee
[14:42:15] <Fl00der> cup*
[14:42:19] <Fl00der> thanks guys :D
[14:42:20] <Fl00der> BRB
[14:42:23] <wjp_> I would pick tea :-)
[14:42:31] <wjp_> your choice breaks the rules, tea does not :-)
[14:42:32] <Sheng_Gradilla> read the scroll with his clue?
[14:42:42] <EsBee-Eks> He solved it by chance.
[14:42:58] <Sheng_Gradilla> he has no style
[14:43:04] <EsBee-Eks> He knows not the rule.
[14:45:26] <Sheng_Gradilla> that sucks :P
[14:45:36] <wjp_> I just got (what I think was) a spam phone call. They said I had won a cheque of 4 times 10 times 10 coins. I hung up at that point. First time I got spam by phone...
[14:46:25] <Sheng_Gradilla> nice, you have the game in you :)
[14:46:31] <wjp_> ;-)
[14:46:33] <EsBee-Eks> Sounds like a prank call.
[14:47:07] <wjp_> well, it was a prerecorded message... I think it was fraud
[14:47:18] <wjp_> (yes, breaking the rules, I know :-) )
[14:47:57] <Sheng_Gradilla> done with the game for this day
[14:48:07] <Sheng_Gradilla> ah, can speak freely now
[14:49:11] <Fl00der> back
[14:49:52] <wjp_> yeah, having to avoid certain types of words is pretty annoying :-)
[14:50:10] <wjp_> most adverbs,
[14:50:23] <wjp_> continuous tense, most past tenses
[14:50:23] <Sheng_Gradilla> and you can't even say you have to avoid them, nor even that it's annoying
[14:54:18] <wjp_> I think I'll go play some more Deus Ex
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[15:00:58] <EsBee-Eks> wish I had Deus Ex
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[16:34:39] <banan> hi:D
[16:35:12] <banan> I've successfully installed and patched Ultima VII - Pagan
[16:35:15] <banan> joy
[16:35:26] <banan> VIII*
[16:36:41] <banan> The Notorious B.I.G. - Gimme The Loot.mp3
[16:37:08] <Fl00der> nice
[16:37:20] <banan> :D
[16:37:58] <banan> Fl00der: are you playing U8 with pentagram?
[16:38:12] <Fl00der> well, I have played only few minutes, so yes
[16:38:40] <Fl00der> Playing U7 now :P
[16:39:06] <banan> ok:D
[16:39:34] <banan> Fl00der: do you understand the game?:P
[16:39:34] <Fl00der> Im using windowed so I can use IRC same time :P
[16:39:38] <Fl00der> lol
[16:39:42] <banan> me 2
[16:39:50] <banan> me appreciates windows
[16:40:06] <Fl00der> well, understand the game...hmm...I solved question and got scroll from chuckles
[16:40:12] <banan> same here
[16:40:20] <Fl00der> how far u are now?
[16:40:30] <banan> err..
[16:40:37] <banan> I lost my savegames :/
[16:40:43] <banan> they got corrupted
[16:40:46] <Fl00der> :(
[16:40:54] <banan> hehe
[16:40:57] <banan> its ok
[16:41:14] <Fl00der> you are not playing U7 anymore?
[16:41:49] <banan> I'm playing it
[16:41:58] <Fl00der> it's hard to start over
[16:42:01] <banan> I was playing it today
[16:42:35] <banan> yea
[16:42:53] <banan> I want looping.. :/'
[16:43:06] <banan> U8 got looping, the music loops
[16:43:12] <Fl00der> yea
[16:44:21] <banan> ok
[16:44:38] <banan> now I'm going to download pentagram
[16:44:47] <banan> *poff*
[16:45:16] <Fl00der> :)
[16:45:36] <Fl00der> you must manual config it order to play u8 with it
[16:45:42] <Fl00der> read the readme :)
[16:45:52] <banan> ok
[16:45:57] <banan> I will do that:D
[16:46:30] <banan> it's so frustrating. I'm not a programmer, I'm just a 'Playa' :P
[16:48:04] <Fl00der> :D
[16:48:16] <banan> I'll just have to follow the instructions in the readme file step by step
[16:48:21] <Fl00der> yep
[16:48:26] <banan> no sweat:D
[16:48:30] <Fl00der> hehe
[16:52:41] <banan> [pentagram]
[16:52:41] <banan> data=data
[16:52:41] <banan> [u8]
[16:52:41] <banan> path=c:\uc\ultima8
[16:52:46] <banan> ^^that's it:D
[16:53:02] <banan> nah..
[16:53:15] <Fl00der> hold on
[16:53:48] <Fl00der> [pentagram]
[16:53:48] <Fl00der> data=c:\pelit\Ultima 8\game\
[16:53:48] <Fl00der> [u8]
[16:53:48] <Fl00der> path=c:\pelit\Ultima 8\game\data
[16:54:04] <Fl00der> I use thatkind
[16:54:05] <Colourless> Fl00der: no
[16:54:06] <banan> ok
[16:54:15] <Fl00der> what no?
[16:54:23] <Colourless> no trailing slash
[16:54:33] <banan> @data/pentagram.ini... Failed
[16:54:33] <Colourless> causes problems i hear
[16:54:37] <banan> hehe
[16:54:47] <Colourless> that error is fine
[16:54:47] <Fl00der> I told that problem :P
[16:55:04] <Fl00der> p,g
[16:55:04] <Fl00der> omg
[16:55:05] <Fl00der> [pentagram]
[16:55:05] <Fl00der> data=C:\pelit\Ultima8\pentagram\data
[16:55:05] <Fl00der> [u8]
[16:55:05] <Fl00der> path=C:\pelit\Ultima8\game
[16:55:07] <Fl00der> this is one I use
[16:55:10] <banan> oh
[16:55:12] <Fl00der> that other was old
[16:55:18] <Fl00der> no slash at end of dir
[16:55:24] <banan> roger that
[16:55:34] <Fl00der> so data = pentagam data and path = ultima 8 install dir
[16:55:35] <Fl00der> right?
[16:55:40] <Colourless> yes
[16:55:43] <Fl00der> :D
[16:55:48] <Fl00der> w00t
[16:56:11] <Fl00der> banan: with those instructions, you should able to manage
[16:56:24] <Colourless> http://pentagram.sourceforge.net/docs.php#quick_ini
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[16:56:46] <banan> thanks
[16:56:54] <Fl00der> np
[17:00:47] <banan> should I have a pentagram.ini file in the DATA folder too?
[17:01:00] <Fl00der> no
[17:01:06] <banan> ok
[17:01:34] <banan> there.. [pentagram]
[17:01:34] <banan> data=C:\Ultima8\English\data
[17:01:34] <banan> [u8]path=c:\Ultima8\English
[17:01:47] <banan> but it still won't work
[17:01:54] <Fl00der> wait a sec
[17:01:56] <banan> ok
[17:01:59] <wjp_> I hope you have linebreaks in the appropriate places?
[17:02:05] <banan> err.. no?:D
[17:02:11] <Fl00der> :D
[17:02:21] <banan> you mean those black boxes?
[17:03:15] <Colourless> does your pentagram.ini look like that above... exactly? you need an enter between [u8] and path
[17:03:25] <banan> yes
[17:03:32] <banan> ok
[17:04:08] <banan> [pentagram]
[17:04:08] <banan> data=C:\Ultima8\English\data
[17:04:08] <banan> [u8]
[17:04:08] <banan> path=c:\Ultima8\English
[17:04:20] <banan> ^^ is that correct?
[17:04:23] <Colourless> yes
[17:04:25] <banan> ok
[17:04:29] <Colourless> assuming that is where your data is
[17:04:41] <banan> I'll chech again..
[17:04:44] <banan> check
[17:05:59] <banan> wtf?
[17:06:22] <Colourless> what does it say
[17:06:35] <banan> @data/pentagram.ini... Failed
[17:06:40] <Colourless> that is normal
[17:06:47] <banan> ok
[17:06:54] <Colourless> what else
[17:07:19] <banan> omg
[17:07:20] <banan> No HIDBindings detected!
[17:07:33] <Colourless> what is in the data dir?
[17:07:51] <banan> hm
[17:08:08] <banan> lots of .init files:D
[17:08:21] <banan> u8.ini
[17:09:00] <banan> I can't find u8english.ini
[17:09:05] <banan> that's funny
[17:09:16] <wjp_> there is no u8english.ini
[17:09:18] <banan> ok
[17:09:27] <Colourless> it's the default
[17:09:51] <wjp_> if it's complaining about bindings, see if u8bindings.ini is there
[17:09:57] <banan> it's there
[17:10:18] <Colourless> i don't think it's finding the data dir...
[17:10:26] <banan> ok
[17:10:33] <wjp_> oh, that "No HIDBindings detected!" message isn't an error
[17:10:38] <Colourless> isn't it?
[17:10:43] <wjp_> I get it too
[17:10:56] <Colourless> hmm... where's that watt when you need him :-
[17:11:04] <wjp_> banan: is the line above that "@data/u8bindings.ini... Ok" ?
[17:11:17] <wjp_> banan: so what exactly is the problem currently?
[17:11:19] <watt> watt is here
[17:11:24] <banan> hehe
[17:11:28] <watt> what's up?
[17:11:31] <Colourless> watt, what does that mean
[17:11:41] <Colourless> wouldn't appear there is an error.....
[17:12:06] <Colourless> so.. why the message..
[17:12:46] <banan> Searching for alternate console font... Not Found.
[17:12:49] <watt> u8bindings.ini should contain the default bindings, and pentagram.ini contain the normal ones IIRC
[17:13:08] <banan> hm
[17:13:08] <wjp_> banan: you don't have to list every line
[17:13:11] <watt> you're not pointed at the correct @data director
[17:13:36] <wjp_> does pentagram start? If not, what's the last line?
[17:13:47] <banan> this is where my data is stored -->C:\Ultima8\ENGLISH\data
[17:14:15] <banan> wjp_: the last line is 'Load Shapes'
[17:14:32] * Colourless thinks compressed shapes
[17:14:36] <banan> hehe
[17:14:40] <wjp_> do you have u8shapes.cmp or u8shapes.flx ?
[17:14:47] <banan> wait a sec..
[17:14:55] <wjp_> (in the static directory)
[17:15:09] <banan> oh
[17:15:20] <banan> .cmp
[17:15:50] <banan> I got u8shapes.cmp
[17:15:52] <wjp_> right, you'll have to decompress that; get the "old mapviewer/tools snapshot" from our download page
[17:16:07] <banan> affirmative:D on my way *poff*
[17:17:14] <banan> downloading...
[17:17:49] <watt> side note: the No HIDBindings stuff just says you didn't save the bindings to pentagram.ini.... it should still load the default ones correctly.
[17:18:46] <banan> exactly
[17:18:57] <wjp_> maybe change that message to 'no custom bindings found: loading defaults' ?
[17:19:09] <banan> hehe
[17:19:09] <watt> hmm.. yeah.
[17:19:23] <banan> I've installed the view program
[17:19:26] <banan> what now?
[17:19:43] <wjp_> there should be something called unpackshp in there
[17:19:58] <banan> yes
[17:20:11] <wjp_> copy that to your static directory (the one containing u8shapes.cmp) and run it
[17:20:20] <banan> the program?
[17:20:21] <banan> ok
[17:21:00] <banan> nothing happend
[17:21:07] <wjp_> it should take some time
[17:21:10] <banan> ok
[17:21:25] <wjp_> it should produce a file called u8shapes.decmp.flx
[17:21:27] <banan> I got a new file
[17:21:31] <banan> yes:D
[17:21:38] <wjp_> after it's done, rename that to u8shapes.flx
[17:21:44] <wjp_> (be sure to wait until it's done)
[17:21:51] <banan> ok
[17:22:22] <banan> yes!
[17:22:26] <banan> it works!:D
[17:22:32] <banan> pentagram works:D joy!
[17:22:40] <banan> thanks a bunch guys!:D
[17:22:56] <wjp_> just don't expect everything to work perfectly yet :-)
[17:23:09] <banan> hehe
[17:23:31] <watt> hmmm...should we create a roadmap to alpha, beta, and 1.0?
[17:23:45] <banan> hehe
[17:23:48] <Colourless> you have got to be craz
[17:23:49] <Colourless> y
[17:23:49] <watt> or whatever would be the gold release?
[17:24:11] <Colourless> we do not want others to know what the progress is
[17:24:15] <watt> perhaps....
[17:25:29] <watt> but I do think we need goals to work towards before we declare alpha
[17:25:57] <watt> yeah, I am crazy... crazy like a fox
[17:27:17] <watt> and dumb as a chimp... *sigh*.. I used to be smarter than an ape
[17:27:48] <banan> haha
[17:28:40] <wjp_> hm, major things that need doing would be SFX, AI, UI and scaling
[17:29:00] <wjp_> and a few missing intrinsics
[17:29:28] <banan> SFX?
[17:29:36] <watt> sound
[17:29:42] <banan> there aren't any sounds in the game yet?
[17:29:46] <watt> music
[17:29:49] <banan> no music either?
[17:29:54] <Colourless> there is music
[17:29:56] <banan> ok
[17:30:02] <Colourless> just no sound effects
[17:30:05] <Colourless> or voice
[17:30:06] <banan> ok
[17:30:30] <banan> I can't hear any music
[17:30:55] <Colourless> uses windows midi output
[17:31:08] <banan> hm
[17:31:14] <Colourless> if you don't hear music, something is configured incorrectly in window
[17:31:14] <Colourless> s
[17:31:56] <banan> where's the music .cfg located?:D
[17:32:06] <Colourless> there isn't one
[17:32:42] <banan> ok
[17:34:21] <banan> I have some IRQ conflicts or something
[17:34:32] <Colourless> no
[17:34:37] <banan> hm
[17:34:40] <Colourless> check your windows multimedia settings
[17:34:46] <banan> ok
[17:34:54] <Colourless> what is midi set to
[17:35:11] <banan> wawe I think
[17:35:21] <banan> oh
[17:35:28] <Colourless> check, don't guess
[17:35:40] <banan> Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth
[17:35:44] <banan> where to check?:D
[17:35:54] <Colourless> hmm it shoudl be working then
[17:36:18] <banan> hm
[17:37:36] <wjp_> does playing .mid files in windows work?
[17:37:50] <wjp_> do you have the midi volume set properly?
[17:38:02] <banan> yes
[17:38:16] <banan> playing midi files works
[17:38:40] <banan> I'm only having problems with dos games
[17:38:48] <wjp_> pentagram isn't a dos game
[17:39:01] <banan> oh
[17:39:08] <banan> it isn't?:D
[17:39:12] <wjp_> what makes you think it is?
[17:39:23] <banan> 'cause U8 is an old game
[17:39:25] <wjp_> so?
[17:39:32] <banan> :D
[17:39:34] <banan> nevermind..
[17:40:10] <banan> are there any audio FAQs?
[17:41:05] <wjp_> bbl, dinner
[17:41:49] <banan> ok
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[18:56:33] <wjp_> more DX... bbl, maybe :-)
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[19:43:41] <banan> hello?
[19:44:09] <Sheng_Gradilla> BWAHAHAHAHA
[19:44:15] * Sheng_Gradilla munches banan
[19:44:20] <banan> hahaaaa
[19:44:34] <banan> Sheng_Gradilla: what are you doing?
[19:44:43] <Sheng_Gradilla> http://egoboo.sourceforge.net/
[19:44:44] <Sheng_Gradilla> :)
[19:44:46] <banan> :D
[19:49:44] <banan> downloading... :D
[19:51:02] <banan> Sheng_Gradilla: where are you from?
[19:52:59] * sbx|afk checks in to see whats happening here.
[19:54:01] <banan> hi
[19:55:58] <banan> Sheng_Gradilla: great game, man!
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[20:01:25] <banan> hi drax
[20:04:00] <Sheng_Gradilla> found it on the net a few hours ago
[20:04:15] <banan> hehe
[20:04:23] <banan> how many fps do you got?
[20:04:52] <banan> g2g
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[20:05:33] <DraX> it's really nice that i can't find my UC cd :(
[20:06:11] <sbx|afk> :)
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[21:58:07] <watt> I just can't seem to spell toggle
[22:25:44] <watt> heads up... moved quick move keys into HIDBindings. Must be added to pentagram.ini to be enabled unless you use default bindings
[22:26:30] <watt> that should probably be mentioned in the news section when we do the next update
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[23:27:31] <banan> hey y'all
[23:29:57] <watt> howdy
[23:32:15] <banan> hi
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[23:51:50] <watt> ahh... the whole head not falling into the water bit appears to be the result of a gravityprocess not being used on the head after it finishes its "fall"