#pentagram@irc.freenode.net logs for 6 Jan 2005 (GMT)

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[01:22:52] <Dominus> hi again, just a quick question to Kirben
[01:23:25] <Dominus> Kirben: have you looked at the gimp plugin for pentagram yet? is it compilable?
[01:24:20] <Kirben> Not yet.
[01:25:41] <Dominus> I'm still waiting for a new gimp developer package from the gimp-for-windows people but they even lost the old one when they made up their page on sourceforge
[01:26:05] <Dominus> "lost" as in it isn't there anymore but can be found elsewhere
[01:27:03] <Dominus> Kirben: whenever you do take a look, I'm a willing tester :) but as of now it isn't really important :)
[01:27:19] <Dominus> got to go to bed now :)
[01:27:36] <Dominus> oh, btw, happy new year ( a bit late though)
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[03:55:37] <watt> I know, I'll bring home my work laptop this weekend and attempt to get the plugin working on it... it should be around 90% set up to build it.
[04:00:44] <watt> need to find my usb keychain drive though... probably don't want to go around installing u8 and pentagram on the laptop.
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[16:59:54] <Dominus> hey ho
[17:00:19] <Dominus> watt: : thanks to Kirben, the gimp plug-in builds and works on Windows
[17:14:03] <wjp> cool :-)
[17:14:07] <wjp> hi
[17:18:16] <Dominus> hi
[17:18:38] <Colourless> hi
[17:18:45] <Dominus> but it took me sometime in the gimp to find out that the sapes need to be named *.pshp :)
[17:19:08] <Dominus> I named them shp first and then the exult plug tried to take over
[17:19:41] <Colourless> hmm
[17:19:43] <Colourless> pshp
[17:20:06] <Colourless> not sure if that is entirely wanted considering the mouse cursor is shp..
[17:20:29] <Dominus> looks awfully lot like "Paint Shop Pro" or something like that
[17:21:52] <wjp> I wonder if the exult and pentagram plugins could share an extension
[17:22:25] <Dominus> would be ideal
[17:22:30] <Colourless> well, i would imagine that they could
[17:22:52] <Colourless> as long as the exult plugin properly fails to load pentagram shapes, and the pentagram plugin fails to load exult shapes
[17:22:55] <wjp> I have no idea if gimp would try multiple plugins
[17:23:01] <wjp> I do hope so, though :-)
[17:23:09] <Colourless> it would be pretty stupid if it didn't
[17:23:37] <Dominus> as of now gimp does not properly fail to load pentagram shapes with the exult plug
[17:23:58] <Colourless> does it just crash
[17:24:32] <Dominus> some it loads looking all wrong, others it just tries to load -> cpu-usage at 100%
[17:24:44] <wjp> pity those shapes aren't a bit easier to detect
[17:25:11] <Colourless> well pentagram plugin sort of does
[17:25:31] <Colourless> parses it to see if the data makes sense
[17:25:44] <Colourless> well, it should be
[17:26:20] <Colourless> watt said he was detecting the shape format
[17:26:51] <wjp> yeah, it's using the convert/ stuff
[17:27:55] <Colourless> if that fails, you can be sure the loader will fail
[17:30:55] <Dominus> with one of our own u7-shapes the pentagram-plug-in refuses to load
[17:42:01] <wjp> so we'd have to make the exult plugin do some sanity checks
[17:42:48] <Dominus> yup
[17:44:51] <Dominus> and while having a go at it, makeing use of the description in the pentagram plug-in so the exult one doesn't look so naked :)
[17:45:21] <Dominus> oh, and the description in the pentagram plug-inb is slightly wrong
[17:45:31] <wjp> description?
[17:45:55] <Dominus> itsays save/load files in the pentagram SHP format
[17:46:20] <Dominus> should say something like files in the U8-Engine SHP format
[17:46:49] <Dominus> description=additional information in the plug-in browser
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[17:47:27] <Dominus> hello WattAtWork
[17:47:36] <wjp> hm, first time I see that browser :)
[17:47:40] <Colourless> well, is there a compressor to save with in the plugin
[17:48:07] <wjp> I don't think saving is implemented currently
[17:48:25] <wjp> there's RLE compression code in unpackshp, btw
[17:48:32] <Colourless> yeah i know
[17:48:48] <wjp> not optimally efficient, though... maybe I'll think about that a bit sometime
[17:48:50] <Colourless> when saving, it should give you the option of which variant it wants
[17:49:14] <Colourless> U8, Crusader or my 'Pentagram' shape format
[17:50:15] <WattAtWork> I was thinking it might force Pentagram format.. but i dunno
[17:51:54] <Dominus> forcing pentagram format might be okay as I doubt anyone would want to hack new files into the original games
[17:52:33] <Dominus> WattAtWork: gimp plugin compiles and works on windows now. Thanks to Kirben
[17:52:50] <Dominus> (if you have not read the logs yet)
[17:55:03] <WattAtWork> I'm wondering if I saw the lastest commit to Makefile.mingw... I saw a commit, but I don't think it linked in all the objects... obviously, it must now ;-)
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