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[20:35:02] <Dominus> hi
[20:35:21] <wjp> hi
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[21:08:36] <knuxles> hey everybody
[21:09:09] <knuxles> I wanna ask some questions about
[21:09:25] <knuxles> compiling a mac version of pentagram
[21:09:34] <knuxles> anyone willing to answer? :)
[21:10:28] <wjp> hi
[21:10:30] <wjp> ask away
[21:14:04] <knuxles> first of all I have to say that I'm not too experienced with compiling programs with Xcode
[21:19:01] <wjp> how far did you get?
[21:23:09] <knuxles> but I'll try to compile it
[21:23:19] <knuxles> to be honest didn't try it with Xcode yet
[21:23:28] <wjp> I'm not sure if it'll easily work with xcode
[21:23:36] <knuxles> I used Xcode for making my school homework assignments
[21:23:43] <wjp> I do know some people have compiled it from the commandline
[21:23:59] <knuxles> I tried but it says
[21:24:19] <knuxles> it couldn't find the path to the sdl packet
[21:24:47] <knuxles> I installed it but couldn't find a way to show the path to the terminal
[21:24:59] <knuxles> I just tried to commandline way as well.
[21:25:32] <Oak> Can't you compile programs in mac in the GNU way?
[21:26:03] <wjp> SDL has a program called 'sdl-config' which has to be in your path for configure to find SDL
[21:26:03] <knuxles> I can but I don't know how to show sdl path to the terminal
[21:26:14] <wjp> I'm not sure if the default SDL Mac OS X packages have a sdl-config, though
[21:26:51] <knuxles> I'm not sure about it too :)
[21:30:04] <knuxles> can u tell me what's the main project file?
[21:30:26] <knuxles> then I may try to compile the whole thing with Xcode 2.0 and can see if it's working or not
[21:30:30] <wjp> what's a main project file?
[21:31:38] <wjp> oh, and xcode project? We don't have that
[21:32:16] <knuxles> hmm did you use microsoft visual c++?
[21:32:50] <wjp> I use gcc and make
[21:33:10] <knuxles> I see
[21:33:28] <knuxles> what about the problem with the Xcode you think?
[21:33:39] <wjp> what was the problem with xcode?
[21:35:12] <knuxles> it just doesn't compile the source code
[21:35:24] <knuxles> gives an error something like "no main classes found"
[21:35:55] <knuxles> if you can wait for few mins, I can try to compile the whole thing on my mac and tell you the exact error?
[21:36:31] <wjp> sure
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[21:49:02] <knuxles> hi again
[21:49:17] <knuxles> just tried to compile it with Xcode and it gave 131 errors
[21:49:28] <knuxles> I suppose some kinda record :)
[21:49:41] <knuxles> I'm sure I did something for wrong
[21:50:04] <knuxles> if anyone interested I can send the errorlog via private message
[21:50:47] <wjp> send me the first 5 or so
[21:51:04] <knuxles> o.k
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[21:52:58] <wjp> better use something like this: http://pastebin.com/
[21:53:58] <knuxxles> did u receive the errorlog messages I sent you?
[21:54:09] <wjp> no
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[21:55:15] <wjp> use something like http://pastebin.com/
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[21:56:05] <knuxxles> o.k
[21:58:34] <knuxxles> http://pastebin.com/587764
[21:58:39] <knuxxles> address is this
[21:58:45] <knuxxles> full error log available at there.
[21:59:16] <knuxxles> don't know if it's my fault or Xcode's or even both.
[22:00:21] <wjp> does XCode allow you to set preprocessor defines somewhere?
[22:02:23] <knuxxles> most probably
[22:02:34] <knuxxles> it's quite complicated and has tons of options
[22:02:44] <knuxxles> but to be honest I'm not sure about it.
[22:03:22] <wjp> I'm starting to think setting up an XCode project for pentagram might be too much work
[22:03:43] <knuxxles> that's not the greatest news :(
[22:04:01] <knuxxles> at least do you know anyone who has mac binary for pentagram?
[22:04:10] <knuxxles> that'll do the work too I suppose
[22:04:46] <wjp> Fingolfin might have one, but he's not here right now
[22:05:40] <knuxxles> may I ask for something else as well?
[22:05:48] <wjp> of course
[22:05:50] <knuxxles> not about programming stuff though
[22:06:05] <knuxxles> I remember about moving objects cheat in ultima 8
[22:06:24] <knuxxles> so I can move doors, people, npc, etc... to some other place I choose
[22:06:52] <knuxxles> but I'm not sure about it's exact name, it had been 7 + years the last time I did it
[22:07:11] <knuxxles> is there anyway I can do it with using pentagram?
[22:07:29] <wjp> no, we don't have a cheat like that currently
[22:07:30] <knuxxles> or implementation method prevents me doing from such a thing?
[22:07:40] <knuxxles> do you remember the old cheat? :)
[22:07:44] <wjp> yeah
[22:08:35] <knuxxles> it was good cheat
[22:08:40] <knuxxles> I pretty much liked it :)
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[22:08:52] <knuxxles> pretty useful most of the game :D
[22:09:29] <wjp> me might end up having a hackmover cheat at some point :-)
[22:09:34] <wjp> hi Colourless
[22:10:10] <knuxxles> that would be great :D
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[22:10:29] <knuxxles> waiting impatiently for seeing it on changelog :)
[22:10:58] <Colourless> hi
[22:14:02] <knuxxles> hi Colourless
[22:16:52] <wjp> Colourless: I changed some MSVC-specific code in the PNG functions; could you check if it still works for you?
[22:23:53] <knuxxles> anyone uses debian based distro ?
[22:24:09] <knuxxles> offtopic question I know but sorry about it :$
[22:24:36] <wjp> not me
[22:30:53] <knuxxles> any possibility for me finding a debian or ubuntu based pentagram binary?
[22:30:58] <knuxxles> my second computer runs on ubuntu
[22:38:06] <wjp> I'm not aware of any
[22:38:26] <wjp> building in linux should be a lot easier though, assuming your distro has the required packages
[22:39:07] <wjp> development packages for SDL, SDL_ttf, zlib, libpng, at least; I hope I'm not forgetting any
[22:48:39] <Oak> I'm going to buy mac at some point, so I can probably develop pentagram further in that part
[22:49:36] <wjp> sounds good :-)
[22:49:42] <knuxxles> that would be nice to use it :)
[22:49:48] <wjp> I should be going; good night
[22:49:51] <knuxxles> I hope you buy mac soon :D
[22:49:59] <knuxxles> wjp: bye and thanks a lot for all help.
[22:50:03] <Oak> at the summer if I have enought money
[22:50:29] <Oak> I've been thinking about iBook
[22:50:40] <knuxxles> I'm using a G4 ibook
[22:52:07] <Oak> I hope they are still sold when I'm going to buy one
[22:52:32] <knuxxles> I don't think there will be powerpc ones by apple
[22:52:47] <knuxxles> they will completely switch to intel by summer I suppose
[22:52:58] <knuxxles> but you can always find good ones at ebay
[22:53:04] <knuxxles> or better buy an intel one :D
[22:53:04] <Oak> They will sell out those ppcs they have
[22:53:20] <knuxxles> until they ran out of stock
[22:53:29] <knuxxles> like they did with powerbook 15"
[22:53:39] <knuxxles> which ran out of stock less than 3 weeks ;)
[22:54:08] <Oak> well, they'll probably replace iBook with intel one
[22:54:13] <Oak> Like they did with mac mini
[22:54:20] <knuxxles> yeah
[22:54:26] <knuxxles> most probably end of this month
[22:54:30] <knuxxles> or 1st april
[22:54:38] <knuxxles> apple's 30th birthday :D
[23:03:37] <knuxxles> gotta go
[23:03:40] <knuxxles> bye to everyone
[23:03:45] <knuxxles> thanks for all the help.
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