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[12:37:01] <wjp> hi
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[12:56:26] * Darke has come to the conclusion that old DeadRat CDs aren't even useful for rescue disks. "All the tools you need to fix your system" and they don't include ssh/scp?!? That's *so* amazingly pathetic.
[12:56:49] <wjp> hm, how old?
[12:57:12] <Darke> Only 7.3.
[12:57:31] <Darke> The only other copy my flatmate has got here is an 8.0 beta which I'm trying now.
[12:57:53] <wjp> there's no ssh on the 7.3 rescue cd? yikes, that's pretty stupid
[12:58:07] <Darke> Admittedly they had a ftp client, but thankfully no telnet.
[12:58:14] <wjp> hm, does it have networking support, btw?
[12:59:04] <Darke> One seriously hopes so if they added ftp! *grin*
[13:02:43] <Darke> 8.0 beta/limbo also lacks ssh/scp and has ftp.
[13:03:13] <Darke> Doesn't really matter since I just wanted to check the drives to see what I can blat, but still it's rather... erm... clueless of them to say the least.
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[13:05:49] <wjp> hi
[13:06:08] <Colourless> hi
[13:06:33] <Darke> Hi!
[13:07:25] * Darke notes he's refused to consider the possibility that the deadrat rescue cd isn't networkable. His opinion of said distro is bad enough as it is. *grin*
[13:08:56] <wjp> LotR by George Orwell: "It is the language of Mordor, which I will not speak here. Translated into the common tongue, it reads: 'All rings of power are equal, but some rings of power are more equal than others.'"
[13:08:57] <wjp> :-)
[13:09:16] * wjp points at /. for more
[13:10:17] * Darke boggles. That his slashdot?!? How surreal.
[13:27:11] <Logomachist> I don't know what Pentagram is, could someone point me toward a URL?
[13:27:24] <Logomachist> oh nm I'll go look it up
[13:27:36] <wjp> ?url
[13:27:36] <exultbot> The official Pentagram homepage is at: http://pentagram.sourceforge.net/
[13:27:36] <Colourless> ?url
[13:27:51] <wjp> hm
[13:27:57] <wjp> why did exultbot only reply once?
[13:28:09] <Colourless> didn't recognize me?
[13:28:12] <wjp> I'm pretty sure I didn't make it smart enough to ignore a second request
[13:28:12] <Colourless> ?url
[13:28:22] <Colourless> ?name
[13:28:26] <wjp> heh
[13:28:37] <wjp> maybe he doesn't see you ;-)
[13:28:40] <Colourless> wjp: make exultbot see me
[13:29:01] <wjp> so, what way is there of detecting something colourless? :-)
[13:29:04] <Colourless> do a ?seen colourless
[13:29:14] <wjp> seen is kind of broken atm
[13:29:30] <Colourless> hmm
[13:29:38] <Colourless> do you think it might be related?
[13:29:56] <wjp> although, seen should work as long as I don't shut down exultbot
[13:30:00] <wjp> ?seen Colourless
[13:30:00] <exultbot> colourless is right here!
[13:30:09] <Colourless> ?seen wjp
[13:30:09] <exultbot> wjp is right here!
[13:30:16] <Colourless> ?name
[13:30:19] <Logomachist> Neat!
[13:30:25] <wjp> does it behave the same in #exult?
[13:30:51] <Logomachist> Any plans for an editor, so you can make your own RPG?
[13:31:04] <Logomachist> W/out having to code everything?
[13:31:10] <Colourless> yes there are some plans to do that
[13:31:17] <Logomachist> ...cool.
[13:31:29] <wjp> but writing something using the U8 engine will require a lot of coding regardless
[13:31:41] <Logomachist> oooo.
[13:31:46] <wjp> since practically everything is handled by u8's 'usecode'
[13:31:59] <Colourless> you could make a map, but using it would be rather difficult without modifications to usecode
[13:32:13] <Colourless> s/difficult/difficult to use/
[13:33:05] <Logomachist> Why's that
[13:33:31] <wjp> U8 uses a compiled scripting language (usecode) for almost everything that happens in the world
[13:33:45] <wjp> so you'll need to write your own usecode
[13:34:24] * Darke grumps as the XPpro install barfs on the mix of ext3/ntfs/fat32 partitions of the hdd. He hopes the deadrat rescue disk actually has a working copy of fdisk! *grin*
[13:34:29] <Logomachist> But that's all setting flags and such, isn't it? "move x character here, set flag. Mover x here, set flag. If y then z"
[13:34:48] <wjp> something like that
[13:35:01] <Logomachist> Doesn't sound too difficult
[13:35:09] <Colourless> you'll be able to move around a map and interact with items, but you wouldn't be able to do anything special at all without modified usecode
[13:35:24] <Logomachist> ah ok
[13:36:33] <Logomachist> That's ok. I don't envision doing anything that complicated with it (if I ever use it at all); the harest part would be making all the graphics,
[13:39:20] <Logomachist> There's a game I want to make, but I can never decide how I want to make it. I've considered everything from a text based adventure game, to a MUD, to RM2k to... well this.
[13:39:32] <Logomachist> And there's another thing I mght want to use Blender for.
[13:39:35] * Logomachist rambles
[13:39:45] <Logomachist> But these are just dreams at the moment.
[13:40:55] <Logomachist> Shoot, gotta get going
[13:41:07] <Logomachist> g'bye people! Good luck!
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