#pentagram@irc.freenode.net logs for 7 Jul 2003 (GMT)

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[07:51:59] <edbgon> just compiled from CVS, great job!
[07:53:18] <edbgon> music plays and everything :)
[07:54:04] <edbgon> SysInfo: Linux 2.4.20-8 | Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.80GHz @ 1793MHz | BogoMIPS: 3578.26 | Mem: 215MB/481MB 7[3||||14------7] | Diskspace: 23GB/38GB 7[3|||||14-----7] | Screen Res: 1024x768 | Procs: 59 | eth0: In: 345.6MB Out: 65.0MB | Uptime: 6 hours 15 minutes | Users: 1 | Load: 0.12, 0.74, 0.78
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[10:16:12] <wjp|work> hi
[10:18:59] <Fingolfin> yo
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[11:02:20] <Cashman> oh I havn't been compiling the source lately, since I am not a developer it doesnt matter - I can use the exe snapshots
[11:02:31] <Cashman> but I got the latest cvs the other day and eek
[11:03:12] <Cashman> make.exe now is scared of makefile because the lnkobj line within dev's makefile is too long!!
[11:03:44] <wjp|work> hehe :-)
[11:03:52] <Cashman> I should bug the dev development team about this! I never would have though that
[11:04:07] <Cashman> or maybe theres somthing in the mingw32 port thats odd - hehe
[11:04:48] <wjp|work> well, there _is_ a commandline length limit of course
[11:04:54] <Cashman> no one here uses mingw32 besides me right??
[11:05:16] <wjp|work> Kirben too, I think
[11:07:02] <Cashman> hmm I dont know jack about makefiles! so I guess dev's work would then have to be commandline compiled with kirbens makefile
[11:07:28] <Cashman> that means the dev c++ team should be bugged about there makefile layout just for the hell of it hehe
[11:09:40] <Cashman> hows work going Willem
[11:09:42] <Cashman> ?
[11:10:06] <wjp|work> not much going on
[11:10:48] <Cashman> are you guys on holiday now/soon?
[11:10:56] <wjp|work> no
[11:11:05] <Cashman> ok
[11:11:23] <wjp|work> no holiday for me this year
[11:11:34] <Cashman> how many holiday breaks do you get a year from uni?
[11:11:41] <wjp|work> as many as you want ;-)
[11:12:25] <wjp|work> but the scheduled ones are summer, christmas and one in march somewhere, I think
[11:12:40] <Cashman> ok thats what I was after
[11:13:08] <Cashman> we don't have break like summer technically - we have this 4 break year thing instead
[11:13:13] <Cashman> terms
[11:13:28] <Cashman> I mean everyone has terms but we have the breaks at the end of every term
[11:14:01] <Cashman> 4 term year in nz now, New Zealand use to be a 3 term year - appearently 4 term is an international standard now
[11:14:01] <Cashman> hmm
[11:14:13] <wjp|work> we have two semesters
[11:14:33] <wjp|work> (between christmas and summer and between summer and christmas :-) )
[11:15:27] <Cashman> yeah we have semesters as well 2 but we have whats called semsters breaks + mid semester break
[11:15:44] <Cashman> depending though - sometimes you have you call it study leave
[11:15:51] <Cashman> ok
[11:16:43] <Fingolfin> mid semester breaks, hm
[11:17:08] <Fingolfin> over here, we have three trimesters, and each actually has one "break week" free in the middle (where also examinatios may take place)
[11:17:15] <Fingolfin> so you could probably say we have 6 terms? :-)
[11:17:26] <Cashman> far out!!
[11:17:29] <Fingolfin> but at my home university, it's plain normal 2 semesters
[11:17:29] <Cashman> where are you?
[11:19:36] <Fingolfin> right now studying in the Netherlands (like wjp but at a different university). Home university is in germany
[11:20:21] <Cashman> ok so is the Netherlands huge? is wjp like a big distance from where you are??
[11:20:36] <Cashman> I live in NZ so I dont know much about distance as we are so small
[11:21:21] <Fingolfin> netherlands? huge ???
[11:21:22] <Fingolfin> errr
[11:21:26] <Fingolfin> wjp|work, wanna answer that one?
[11:21:28] <Cashman> hmm I never did geography
[11:22:10] <Cashman> well would you say its a long way to travel between you/wjp
[11:23:08] <Fingolfin> 120 km
[11:23:16] <wjp|work> hm? what?
[11:23:25] <wjp|work> netherlands? huge ???
[11:23:26] <wjp|work> ;-)
[11:23:32] <Cashman> oh thats no so bad
[11:23:48] * DarkeZzz 's uni has three semesters, two 'formal' semesters and an optional summer semester. 'Long' breaks of 4-6 weeks between semesters (for examinations and such), and a short break (for a week normally) about half way through each semester.
[11:24:21] <Cashman> 4-6 weeks! what the, we are 2 weeks here geez our sister ozz is kind
[11:24:58] <Cashman> man America generally bost about there country size so sometimes when I think about other parts of the world I think big
[11:25:07] <Cashman> go DarkeZzz!
[11:25:34] <Fingolfin> I think the biggeste possible distance in the Netherlands is like 300-350km, from Maastricht to Groningen :-)
[11:26:21] <Cashman> om
[11:26:21] <Cashman> ok
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[11:28:10] <wjp|work> still think NZ is small? :-)
[11:29:16] <Cashman> hehe yeah kinda
[11:29:34] <Cashman> I mean half of the world dont even think we exist! on the map
[11:29:40] <DarkeZzz> Yes. Most of the bits of europe are just microscopic, that's all. *grin*
[11:29:44] <Cashman> thats kinda miss leading but sounds true half the time
[11:29:48] <wjp|work> DarkeZzz: ah :-)
[11:29:50] <Cashman> hehe
[11:30:23] <Cashman> yeah but thats parts of eurpoe I'm talking about our whole country eek
[11:30:46] <wjp|work> those parts of europe are "whole countries" too... :-)
[11:31:54] <Cashman> hmmm I guess you are right! but NZ isn't exactally apart of anything - well the common wealth hmm but thats different
[11:32:20] <Cashman> we have south island and north island and stuit island
[11:33:14] <DarkeZzz> wjp|work: We can't help it if we're confused on a regular basis with Austria. The "almost as big as the US, vs rather tiny" doesn't seem to sink into some people's brains all that well. *grin*
[11:34:10] <Cashman> hehe
[11:34:13] <Cashman> :-)
[11:35:53] <DarkeZzz> The ambiguous country code doesn't help either. We'd have been better off with .oz . *grin*
[11:37:01] <Cashman> sister oz
[11:37:33] <Cashman> cashman and Darkezz and colourless live on the brother/sister connection hehe
[11:38:02] <wjp|work> if Americans confuse Austria and Australia that's really their problem :-)
[11:39:01] <Cashman> hehe yeah!
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[12:21:15] <wjp|work> GLOBSWAP is.. interesting
[12:23:27] <wjp|work> it kills all items in a 512x512 block, except those with flag 0x80, shape 0x49 (egg) or shape 0x2 (globegg)
[12:23:58] <wjp|work> afterwards, it looks up an egg with UnkEggType 0x29 or 0x30 (depending on the postEarthQuake global)
[12:24:51] <wjp|work> and then copies all items from the chunk around that item into the current chunk
[12:25:31] <wjp|work> (and sets flag 0x80 on the newly created items)
[12:27:16] <DarkeZzz> Interesting.
[12:27:41] <wjp|work> the bad part is that it seems to destroy() the avatar along the way ;-)
[12:28:07] <DarkeZzz> Umm... oops! *grin*
[12:37:47] <wjp|work> it might also just be that the avatar really isn't supposed to be in that area at the time
[12:38:03] <wjp|work> (after all, there's some serious teraforming going on... :-) )
[12:38:09] <wjp|work> s/tera/terra/?
[12:38:30] <DarkeZzz> terra.
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[12:49:37] <wjp|work> hi
[12:49:54] <Colourless> hi
[15:00:30] <wjp|work> going home, bbl
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[15:27:39] <wjp> back
[15:31:47] <Colourless> wb
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[17:19:40] <Colourless> i am going
[17:19:45] <Colourless> cya
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[21:27:22] <wjp> it seems we have a bit of a problem... in the catacombs glob-items are being deleted a _lot_
[21:27:51] <wjp> so I guess it's time for a bit of redesigning... luckily the globegg system is a fairly separate part of the rest :-)
[21:28:07] <wjp> s/of the/from the/
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[23:20:26] <edbgon> i have a question about pentagram if anyone here can answer
[23:20:33] <Fingolfin> try
[23:20:53] <edbgon> i just want to make sure, with the lastest cvs copy of pentagram
[23:21:19] <edbgon> i get a lot of unhandled intrinsic: playsfx....
[23:21:27] <edbgon> is this expected?
[23:21:38] <Fingolfin> sure
[23:21:51] <edbgon> ok, i had some problems until i got timidity functioning
[23:21:55] <edbgon> just making sure
[23:23:27] <edbgon> so, is this evolving beyond the map and shape viewer?
[23:23:44] <Fingolfin> yes
[23:23:57] <edbgon> so, aiming for a u8-exult?
[23:24:24] <Fingolfin> maybe one day
[23:24:39] <edbgon> seems to be very well rounded so far
[23:24:57] <edbgon> npc paths, traps, mirrors
[23:25:18] <Fingolfin> millions of things are still to be done, though =)
[23:27:03] <edbgon> hehe well hopefully someday, without linux DRI support, games on linux are rather limited
[23:27:12] <edbgon> everything through vesa :)
[23:28:12] <edbgon> i really dislike SiS now, any laptop chipset has to be better
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