#pentagram@irc.freenode.net logs for 8 May 2003 (GMT)

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[10:48:17] <servus> hlo
[10:48:21] <Cashman> hey!
[10:48:27] <servus> hlosup?
[10:48:45] <Cashman> listen to music and been eating! just come home from my supermarket job
[10:48:46] <Cashman> partime stuf
[10:49:18] <servus> want to make my rigid body physics engine for me? mines not very goood :P
[10:50:30] <Cashman> hehe asking the wrong person because I'm not much of a c/c++ programmer, I'm a basic and scripter
[10:50:51] <Cashman> I'm more of a pentagram fan and do win32 compiles just to help out! and see how optimizations are for win32 port
[10:51:05] <Cashman> how you doin anyways
[10:51:57] <servus> im alright, lots and lots of school, not any time for programming :)
[10:52:17] <servus> im at the stage where programming is easy, its thinking about the exact way to phrase a line of code.... ;-p
[10:53:55] <Cashman> yeah well I'm kinda like that for basic languages but I've never got into c/c++!
[10:54:05] <Cashman> you a c/c++ guru??
[10:54:34] <servus> im not brave enough to call myself a guru, but im alright with c and c++, and "c/c++" is a distinct language different from c or c++:P
[10:55:11] <Cashman> I'm sure that some people are willing to help with any questions here and there - I know Darke, well when hes awake has plenty to blab on about and wjp and colourless sometimes are a help to non pentagram related stuff
[10:55:42] <Cashman> yeah sorry I mean c or c++ as yeah they are very different in ways!
[10:56:44] <Cashman> yeah I dont really know anyone who would call themself's a guru in both c/c++ - I get what you mean
[10:57:25] <servus> im not having any c problems, just logic difficulties:-0
[10:57:48] <Cashman> logical thinking!? in putting a prog togeather?
[10:58:39] <Cashman> could take some old fashion pen and paper thinking, even some small sub examples of how you might go about things..
[10:58:55] <Cashman> always good to start somewhere and build like a jig saw puzzle!
[10:59:39] <Cashman> optimizations you can keep a eye on on the way or look at later, but good structure and effectivness along the way is the way to go if possible
[10:59:43] <servus> not that type of logic ;-)
[11:00:00] <Cashman> ??? you mean having problems with math logic boolean stuff
[11:00:06] <Cashman> not general logic
[11:00:19] <Cashman> math or gen which one??
[11:00:28] <servus> no no, heh; the problems are currently arising in the nuts and bolts of the collision detection and reaction, that's all
[11:02:00] <servus> http://sourcepost.sytes.net/sourceview.aspx?source_id=5436 ;-p
[11:02:15] <servus> needs lots of optimizations, but im focusing mainly on getting the darn thing to work correctly first ;-)
[11:02:48] <Cashman> oh ok sorry hehe yeah I get what you mean now!
[11:03:09] <Cashman> well good luck and I'm sure there are plenty of people out there wishing to help with Q A
[11:03:10] <Cashman> 's/
[11:03:20] <Cashman> oops Questions and Answers and lending a hand
[11:09:19] * Cashman slaps DarkeZzz around a bit with a large trout
[11:09:36] * servus slaps servus around a bit with a large trout
[11:09:43] * Cashman hides behind Darkes Kitchen dor
[11:09:51] <Cashman> ?? eh what hte
[11:09:52] <Cashman> the
[11:09:52] <servus> who invented The Trout™ anyways?
[11:09:55] <Cashman> servus
[11:10:00] <Cashman> oh really!
[11:10:59] <servus> ?
[11:12:29] <Cashman> inveted the fish eh
[11:13:11] <Cashman> invented the fish well well ooooh
[11:13:14] * Cashman slaps servus around a bit with a large trout
[11:13:43] * Cashman hides under Darkes bed
[11:14:24] * Cashman says servus cant find me there - well neither can i
[11:15:15] * Cashman teleports to the underground
[11:18:26] <servus> there there, hlao-roo
[11:18:33] * servus giggles
[11:19:17] * Cashman uses the construct to move to serus's fridge
[11:20:37] <Cashman> ooooh watch out for them evil dragon's and agents - sentinals (the colourless sential ooh)
[11:27:14] * Cashman hicks
[11:27:23] * Cashman hic**
[11:27:56] * servus . o O ( Weird... )
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[11:29:44] <servus> wb cash
[11:30:36] <Nicholas> whats wb cash?
[11:30:42] <servus> i know its you!
[11:31:14] <Nicholas> hehe I'm not dumb - I understand
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[11:34:20] <servus> ;-)
[11:35:33] <Cashman> yeah just messing, I'm not stupid enough to think that hehe some people really think they can hide
[11:36:57] * Cashman hides under his desk
[11:37:03] <Cashman> for no apparent reason
[11:37:27] <servus> el-hrair!
[11:37:43] <servus> elil >.<
[11:37:59] <servus> im reading the earliest known recording of yiffydom, currently
[11:38:15] <Cashman> eh?
[11:38:55] <servus> "watership down"
[11:40:38] <Cashman> cant say I know
[11:40:49] <servus> it is a classic, apparently
[11:40:57] <Cashman> ok
[11:41:02] <servus> yiffy! eep! *hides from hlao-roo nuzzling*
[11:42:03] <Cashman> wtf!! sounds odd to me considering what I am hearing from you
[11:42:13] <Cashman> oh well I'm not the one reading the book
[11:42:54] <servus> do you understand all my terminology, or have i made you tharn? :P
[11:44:30] <Cashman> no I dont understand all that gubberish!! if its not considered gibberish and requires a high hq bla bla bla welkl
[11:44:41] <Cashman> no I dont understand what ur saying!
[11:45:32] * Cashman gibberishing
[11:45:36] * Cashman stuff
[11:45:50] <Cashman> Nimlot (11:43 PM) :
[11:45:53] <servus> ah, ik ben zo blij dat jou nikt viel mijn spreek (i know its bad grammar, shh!)
[11:45:54] <Cashman> no it makes no sence whatso ever
[11:45:54] <Cashman> $$$ ˘ashman® $$$ (11:44 PM) :
[11:45:54] <Cashman> hehe thanks
[11:46:44] <Cashman> hmmm german! you speek or learning at skool?
[11:46:44] <Cashman> is it german if its the bad grammer thats confusing me
[11:47:16] <servus> im not trying to type in german, thankfully
[11:48:03] <Cashman> no!!! well ur bad grammer decompiles in my brain to "ich bin" bla bla bla - well that first bit in german is "my name is bliji dat"
[11:48:08] <Cashman> doesnt make sence to me
[11:49:56] <servus> "ah, i'm so happy that you don't know what i said"
[11:50:14] <servus> would you like the latin cognants?
[11:50:56] <servus> well too bad:P
[11:51:41] <Cashman> hmm geuss I'm not on ur level then
[11:51:51] <Cashman> I wonder if someone like Darke understands you
[11:52:21] <servus> lol, im dumb as a brick, and i wasnt trying to speak german anyways! darke would understand what "tharn" is, though :-)
[11:53:04] <Cashman> hehe just being a messing around skool kid
[11:54:07] <servus> i am tharn from the embleer day's elil, and i must sleep so i can get up bright and early to silflay, goodnight.
[11:54:35] <Cashman> wtf!! what ever
[11:56:41] <servus> heehee, im sorry, im really tired though, and that can account for some (but not all!) of my silliness, goodnight
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[11:58:01] <Cashman> ok thats fine! l8er
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[12:12:32] <wjp> "ah, ik ben zo blij dat jou nikt viel mijn spreek" <-- that's definitely not german
[12:12:35] <wjp> if anything it's dutch
[12:12:40] <wjp> (but horribly broken)
[12:13:09] <wjp> "ich bin" = "I am" in german.
[12:13:12] <wjp> (not "my name is")
[12:13:13] <Cashman> k's
[12:13:45] <wjp> "ik ben zo blij dat" = "I am so glad that"
[12:13:57] <wjp> "jou nikt viel mijn spreek" is really broken :-)
[12:14:00] <Cashman> ooops sorry bugger bugger! yeah thats what I mean ggrrr I did some german like 6 1/2 years ago
[12:14:12] <Cashman> thats all I remember and 1 to 10
[12:16:00] <Cashman> you currently studying a language besides c/c++ or is this hobby or high school
[12:16:18] <Cashman> ?
[12:16:39] <wjp> what do you mean?
[12:18:24] <Cashman> did you study a language at school or are studying at the moment??
[12:18:39] <Cashman> or do you just generally know a little
[12:18:51] <wjp> I had dutch (obviously), english, german, french, latin and greek in highschool
[12:19:04] <wjp> but that's rather a long time ago :-)
[12:19:18] <wjp> (about 5 years)
[12:20:45] <Cashman> so that makes you about 20,21 years of age
[12:20:52] <wjp> 22
[12:21:03] <Cashman> I'm 20 and did a little german back at school - not much
[12:21:12] <Cashman> now long you been a uni student for?
[12:21:32] <Colourless> i'm.... older than you :-)
[12:21:34] <wjp> this is my 5th year
[12:21:40] <Colourless> only just though :-)
[12:21:52] * wjp will be 23 in a month and a day
[12:22:13] <Cashman> 5th! gee thats a long time
[12:22:19] <Colourless> i turned 23 on the 25th
[12:22:34] <Cashman> yeah I know I'm a youngen
[12:22:55] <wjp> ah, a belated happy birthday, then :-)
[12:23:13] <Colourless> thanks, i think :-)
[12:23:18] <Cashman> yeh
[12:23:44] <Cashman> actually hmm I only turn 20 in june! 6th - eek d'day
[12:24:03] <Cashman> this is my second of 3 years I'm spening in uni
[12:27:08] <wjp> university studies are typically 4-5 years here
[12:27:20] <wjp> although we're currently introducing a bachelor/master system
[12:27:32] <wjp> where the bachelor would be the first 2 or 3 (not sure) years
[12:31:28] <Cashman> aye! well very different to here - I'm in New Zealand
[12:38:32] * DarkeZzz feels oooooooooold.
[12:38:41] <Cashman> do you get paid much for working at uni?
[12:38:51] <Cashman> how old are you Darke?
[12:39:32] <DarkeZzz> Older then everyone else so far? *grin*
[12:39:48] <wjp> by a couple of months? :-)
[12:40:54] <Colourless> if i'm not mistaken, it's about 10 months or something
[12:41:11] <Cashman> wjp you never asked!?
[12:41:15] <Cashman> before..
[12:41:20] <wjp> oh, I probably did
[12:41:30] <wjp> I know he's not much older
[12:41:56] <Colourless> yeah well, darke never says when his birthday is
[12:42:12] <DarkeZzz> 15? 16? I think.
[12:42:40] * DarkeZzz gives his birthday with a +/-1 error delta for a reason y'know. *grin*
[12:42:51] <DarkeZzz> s/error/year error/
[12:43:08] * wjp can't really think of a reason, though :-)
[12:44:10] <Colourless> with the vagueness of his answers when being as about his birthday, i would almost guess darke is actually a girl :-)
[12:44:29] <wjp> a girl named Patrick?
[12:44:36] <wjp> Patricia maybe?
[12:45:30] <Colourless> :-)
[12:45:44] <Colourless> well we know that he does roleplay as both female and male characters
[12:45:56] <Colourless> who's to know which is the real one ;-)
[12:46:30] * DarkeZzz admittedly got called both 'patrick' and 'patricia' regularly at school, and answered to both, just to spite the bullies. *grin*
[12:46:42] <wjp> eh? :-)
[12:46:54] <wjp> any particular reason why people would call you patricia?
[12:47:11] * Colourless waits for answer
[12:47:42] <DarkeZzz> Bullies trying to taunt me into being offended? I never worked that one out myself.
[12:47:44] * Cashman people that hate geeks
[12:48:50] <Colourless> i refuse to reveal any names that i may have been called by bullies. One of them would probably be obvious :-)
[12:48:57] <Cashman> whats up people!
[12:49:35] <Cashman> so we all have delt with many a bullie during those skool days! nice to know we all been in da same boat
[12:50:57] <wjp> hm, I don't think we've ever seen pictures of Darke, have we?
[12:51:23] <Cashman> any of you guys ever met in person?!
[12:51:31] <Colourless> you've never seen picturs of me either? so do you have a point?
[12:51:33] <wjp> I met Fingolfin in RL
[12:51:46] <Cashman> how did the pentagram/exult team get started
[12:51:49] <Cashman> aye
[12:51:52] <wjp> but Colourless and Darke are a bit too far away from me :-)
[12:52:04] <wjp> pentagram got started as a subset of the exult team
[12:52:08] <wjp> exult team 'grew'
[12:52:14] <Colourless> and still is a subset of the exult team :-)
[12:52:38] <wjp> details details :-)
[12:53:01] <Cashman> hehe
[12:53:52] <Cashman> $$$ ˘ashman® $$$ (00:51 AM) :
[12:53:56] <Cashman> Colourless (00:52 AM) :
[12:53:56] <Cashman> argh!!!!!!!!!!
[12:54:05] <Cashman> hehe
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[12:54:44] * Colourless waits for his return...
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[12:57:46] <wjp> no you're not god ;-)
[12:58:14] <Colourless> you think i'm evil!?!!?
[12:58:20] <Colourless> look in a mirror!
[12:58:31] <wjp> nah, you're not evil :-)
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[13:18:47] * DarkeZzz blinkies as he slowly reads through the logs 'yiffydom'? The context of this word in association with 'Watership Down' is most bizzare. *grin*
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[13:22:51] <Nadir> hi
[13:23:03] <DarkeZzz> Hi.
[13:23:36] * DarkeZzz hmms... and the fact as far as history goes, missing is both the standard fairy tales (Big Bad Wolf? Three Little Pigs?), and the various world creation stories (check out the .au aborigines or african folk tales) that quite easily predate said novel. Not to mention religious icons that it would be almost impossible for even the standard tv viewer to have missed, (Egyptian: Ra/Bast/Anubis/etc, Greek: Pan, etc.).
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[13:29:38] <RouterC> colourless big and bad and very evil, I;ve had enough evil for one day
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[13:37:35] <Cashman> eh
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[13:55:45] * Darke congratulates Colourless on getting Really somehow included in the usecode documentation file he's been creating over the last couple of days. He's not sure how Colourless managed this feat, but is sweeping his bedroom for devices playing subliminal messages as we speak.
[13:58:30] <Colourless> :-)
[14:05:30] * Darke checks his secret satelite registery, to see if any of the cloaked mind-control satellites are registered to a certain dragon...
[14:09:13] <Colourless> i don't need such trickery
[14:09:31] <Colourless> just constant pestering is usually enough
[14:10:55] <Darke> Riiiiiight! *dubiouslook* I need to remember to stock up on aluminium foil then.
[14:11:36] <Colourless> :-)
[14:12:27] <Colourless> bbl, maybe
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