#tfl@irc.freenode.net logs for 11 Sep 2006 (GMT)

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[00:30:53] <wizardrydragon> So UCC is done now, right? :)
[00:31:01] <Marzo> No
[00:31:38] <wizardrydragon> :P
[01:01:43] <Marzo> OK, now you can create and initialize classes and assign compatible classes to other classes; missing is the ability to use data members and class functions
[01:07:38] <wizardrydragon> Im not sure whether we really need data members
[01:07:55] <Marzo> We do (at least for usecode schedules)
[01:08:54] <wizardrydragon> Ah, true.
[01:08:58] <wizardrydragon> I hadn't thought of that.
[01:11:03] <wizardrydragon> Hmm.
[01:11:13] <wizardrydragon> How do you propose to add them?
[01:11:24] <Marzo> Most of the work is already there
[01:11:43] * wizardrydragon is having issues conceptualizing it, but that's why he doesn't write programming languages.
[01:11:49] <Marzo> Classes are basically arrays with a vtable for the functinos that will be called
[01:12:05] <Marzo> The array has one element per data member
[01:12:11] <Marzo> *functions
[01:12:28] <wizardrydragon> Hmm.
[01:12:44] <Marzo> The vtable is a list of the functions defined for the class
[01:13:11] <Marzo> There is one vtable per defined class (as opposed to instantiated classes)
[01:13:34] <wizardrydragon> Why the distinction?
[01:14:02] <Marzo> So that Exult knows what to do with each of them :-)
[01:14:36] <wizardrydragon> Ah.
[01:15:38] <wizardrydragon> Hmm.
[01:15:42] <wizardrydragon> New UCC.exe? :)
[01:16:00] <Marzo> Not working as expected yet, there is still a lot to do
[01:16:09] <wizardrydragon> Sorrow.
[01:18:07] <Marzo> Believe me, the sorrow is all mine :-)
[01:20:24] <wizardrydragon> Lol
[01:54:20] <Marzo> Well, I am going to bed early tonight
[01:54:26] <Marzo> Good night to you all
[01:54:42] <wizardrydragon> Sleep well Marzo.
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[01:57:24] <Crysta> oooooo
[01:57:33] <Crysta> the 8 saints' tomb is open in UO
[01:57:46] <Crysta> and the battle is raging
[01:57:57] <wizardrydragon> Throw black rocks at them!
[01:58:00] <wizardrydragon> :)
[01:58:16] <Crysta> you have no idea what im talking about huh
[01:58:36] <wizardrydragon> I meant at the people fighting.
[01:58:43] <Crysta> you ever read the "history of ilshenar"?
[01:59:28] <wizardrydragon> Nope.
[01:59:37] <wizardrydragon> Never have never plan to never will :P
[01:59:49] * wizardrydragon thumbs his nose at the non Ultima UO content
[02:00:13] <Crysta> nono..
[02:00:30] <Crysta> this is the REAL ilshenar history
[02:00:42] * wizardrydragon doesn't care :P
[02:00:43] <Crysta> the "Ultima-ey" one
[02:01:38] <Crysta> especially since it has to do rather directly with exodus
[02:03:23] <Crysta> fine.. whatever
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[02:07:28] <wizardrydragon> Hi servus
[02:07:31] <servus> Hi.
[02:07:48] <servus> Need books for #tfl? I've got like five million books in an Ultima VII format.
[02:08:09] <servus> (Few pages, light reading, Ultima themed)
[02:08:36] <wizardrydragon> Could be neat.
[02:09:41] <servus> Exodus is a freaking punk.
[02:10:56] <Crysta> so what :P
[02:12:00] <Crysta> to be honest i dont really thinkit involves him anyway
[02:12:30] <servus> Just saying.
[02:14:16] <Crysta> my guess is its mondain's brother
[02:16:17] <Crysta> :P
[02:16:33] <wizardrydragon> Lol
[02:17:03] <Crysta> well really.. they already used exodus and minax
[02:17:13] <Crysta> and mondain never existed in ilsh
[02:17:27] <Crysta> so.. gotta be his unnamed missing brother
[02:19:41] <Crysta> i sure hope killing the monster in here is the right thing
[02:21:14] <servus> I always wondered what music my legendary provocateur plays. Yanni?
[02:21:36] <servus> Maybe the Beatles' Revolution 9?
[02:24:29] <wizardrydragon> I think he plays Stones.
[02:51:25] <servus> Hm, there's a demo available for the next Might & Magic. Let's see the game that delayed/killed Arx Fatalis 2...
[02:52:54] <wizardrydragon> lol
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[20:38:23] <Marzo> Hi
[20:38:32] <Crysta> hi
[20:38:46] <wizardrydragon> bonjour
[20:39:48] <Marzo> Before you ask: UCC classes are nowhere near ready
[20:40:26] <wizardrydragon> Of course not.
[20:40:35] * Marzo has just found out he will have to rewrite the way function parameters are defined due to the type checking neccessary
[20:40:39] <wizardrydragon> Whyever would they be done.
[20:40:42] <wizardrydragon> :P
[20:40:49] <Marzo> Err: neccessary type-checking
[20:42:09] <Marzo> On the other hand, I have reorganized and updated the code for the data patches of paperdol_info.txt, bodies.txt and shape_info.txt
[20:42:24] <wizardrydragon> Oh?
[20:42:26] <wizardrydragon> Explain
[20:42:26] <Marzo> It will be possible to make partial patches after they are commited
[20:42:32] <Marzo> (I read the logs)
[20:42:36] <wizardrydragon> Ah, you noticed that :)
[20:43:12] * Marzo sees all. He may not notice everything, but he sees it nonetheless :-)
[20:46:22] <wizardrydragon> Hehe
[20:46:28] <wizardrydragon> From #pentagram:
[20:46:31] <wizardrydragon> [16:44] wizardrydragon: Hey I rather liked the sorcerer.
[20:46:31] <wizardrydragon> [16:44] wizardrydragon: *s
[20:46:31] <wizardrydragon> [16:45] wizardrydragon: If hyou don't like someone, blow them up.
[20:46:31] <wizardrydragon> [16:45] wizardrydragon: Much easier to follow than the Virtues :)
[20:46:40] <Crysta> lol
[20:46:52] <Marzo> lol
[20:48:13] * wizardrydragon thinks he will start blowing up everyhone he doesn't like in Ultima.
[20:48:26] * wizardrydragon thinks he will start with Chuckles.
[20:48:44] <Crysta> i was thinking yesterday
[20:48:51] <Crysta> why isnt chuckles in underworld 2?
[20:49:01] <Marzo> I'd advise not to mess with Chuckles: he has the juggling balls of doom :-)
[20:49:24] <wizardrydragon> Crysta: EA.
[20:49:26] <wizardrydragon> Its all EA
[20:49:31] <wizardrydragon> :)
[20:49:50] <Crysta> hm..
[20:50:03] <wizardrydragon> Blame EA!
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[22:16:06] <servus> Chuckle's disappearance is actually explained by Iolo, IIRC.
[22:16:21] <servus> Something to the effect of, "Just be glad that the outside world is trapped with Chuckles, and we are safe in here!"
[22:19:02] <wizardrydragon> Hehe
[22:26:11] <Crysta> XD
[22:26:13] <Crysta> really
[22:26:15] <Crysta> i missed that one
[22:28:09] * wizardrydragon isn't shocked.
[22:28:12] * wizardrydragon ducks.
[22:29:22] <servus> Coren gave me a transcript of all the UW1 and UW2 conversation trees a while ago, but I lost it
[22:29:29] <Crysta> ah :)
[22:29:46] <Crysta> im still trying to get teh blackrock serpent, any hints as to how?
[22:31:51] <wizardrydragon> Youre always looking for blackrock things, Crysta :)
[22:32:06] <Crysta> shush
[22:32:15] <Crysta> this one is for completeness's sake
[22:32:20] <Crysta> the cluebook doesnt tell how
[22:34:57] <servus> In SI?
[22:35:09] <servus> Where is there a blackrock serpent in UW2?
[22:35:10] <Crysta> in UW2
[22:35:31] <Crysta> the one "from your most recent adventure" at the start of SI is from UW2
[22:35:40] <Crysta> the goblins in the sewers give it to you somehow
[22:35:49] <servus> Oh, hm. I have no recollection of that..
[22:37:02] <Crysta> ive read it on a few sites and seen the sprite for it.. but am still trying to get it
[22:38:59] <servus> In the British sewers?
[22:39:05] <Crysta> yes.. those goblins
[22:42:35] <servus> Hm! I've never heard anything about that. Might look into it tonight... I'm currently working :)