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[19:31:29] <Marzo> Hi
[19:31:53] <wizardrydragon> cluck
[19:32:51] <Marzo> Methinks thou hast multiple personalities (chiken, sheep, cow)
[19:32:58] <Marzo> *chicken
[19:33:08] <wizardrydragon> moo
[19:33:22] <Marzo> Transition #1
[19:33:30] <wizardrydragon> moo?
[19:34:01] <Marzo> Waiting until the sheep personality becomes active, then you are bound to change into human personalyty :-)
[19:34:17] <wizardrydragon> cluck
[19:34:32] <Marzo> Hm... that is a step back
[19:34:48] <Marzo> Let me try something else
[19:34:55] <Marzo> 'Cluck, I say!'
[19:35:02] <Marzo> Maybe that will work :-)
[19:35:02] <wizardrydragon> cluck?
[19:35:44] <Marzo> Cockadoodledoo
[19:36:01] <wizardrydragon> cluck
[19:38:51] * Marzo casts 'Vas Rel Xen' at wizardrydragon in an attempt to turn him back into a human
[19:40:13] <wizardrydragon> baa?
[19:40:56] * Marzo repeatedly casts 'Vas Rel Xen' at wizardrydragon until he turns back into a human
[19:41:01] * Marzo repeatedly casts 'Vas Rel Xen' at wizardrydragon until he turns back into a human
[19:41:06] * Marzo repeatedly casts 'Vas Rel Xen' at wizardrydragon until he turns back into a human
[19:41:18] <wizardrydragon> *assortment of animal sounds follows*
[19:41:50] * Marzo explodes in frustration
[19:44:12] * wizardrydragon wanders over to graze by Marzo's remains.
[19:44:13] <wizardrydragon> XD
[19:52:42] * Marzo spontaneously resurrects
[19:52:51] <Marzo> One more shot
[19:53:13] <wizardrydragon> lol
[19:53:25] * Marzo casts 'Vas Rel An Xen' at wizardrydragon in a (probably futile) attempt to turn him back into a human
[19:54:14] <Marzo> Oh. That is stupid of me.
[19:54:20] <Marzo> Of course it won't work.
[19:54:58] * Marzo casts 'Vas Rel Bal-Zen' at wizardrydragon in an attempt to turn him back into a *dragon*
[19:55:52] <Marzo> On a more serious note, I am thinking of converting the graphics in CVS from png's into shp's
[19:56:10] <wizardrydragon> Yay, more dead CVS files :D
[19:56:27] <Marzo> :-)
[19:57:09] <Marzo> Speaking on CVS -- and don't run away *this* time, please :-p -- when are you commiting the changes you made within the last month or so?
[19:57:25] <Marzo> (if they aren't even older, that is...)
[19:57:49] * Marzo notices that the last spell seems to have worked
[19:58:40] <wizardrydragon> Last time I signed off my computer but it didn't seem to log me off IRC for a bit.
[19:58:56] <wizardrydragon> In any event I plan to when they're stable. Not until then :P
[19:59:11] <Marzo> Hey, that is what CVS is for
[19:59:37] <Marzo> You make everything unstable and let other devs do the work of getting it into usable form :-)
[20:00:39] <wizardrydragon> :P
[20:09:57] <wizardrydragon> Me = not Microsoft, thank thee :P
[20:10:09] <Marzo> lol
[20:12:26] <wizardrydragon> Hmm
[20:12:40] <Marzo> Speak thy mind
[20:13:39] <wizardrydragon> Random fact: the country that visits the u7feudallands site the most is Finland with 1,100 visits this month. Second is Isreal with 802 visits, and third is El Salvador with 544 visits.
[20:13:58] <Marzo> Curious
[20:14:18] <Marzo> What position is Brasil in?
[20:14:31] <Marzo> (or it doesn't appear in the listing)
[20:14:34] <wizardrydragon> Canada has 390 visits whereas the United States has a paltry 28 visits, most of which Im sure I can attribute to Crysta :)
[20:14:44] <Marzo> :-)
[20:15:00] <wizardrydragon> There have been 180 visits from Brazillians
[20:15:24] <wizardrydragon> Also the Googlebot is a bandwidth hog :O
[20:15:31] <Marzo> I am sure I am responsible for 10-20 or so
[20:15:56] <wizardrydragon> 8 different robots* Hits Bandwidth Last visit
[20:15:56] <wizardrydragon> Googlebot 24047 1.33 GB 23 Oct 2006 - 04:52
[20:16:06] <Marzo> You can prevent it (and other similar bots) from going through the site, you know
[20:16:16] <wizardrydragon> Oh I want it to be indexed.
[20:16:19] <Marzo> 24047 hits?
[20:16:41] <wizardrydragon> Im just curious how it's leeching 1.33 gb of bandwidth on a 5 megabyte site :S
[20:16:49] <Marzo> That settles it, Googlebot likes Ultima more than anyone else in the world :-)
[20:16:58] <wizardrydragon> :D
[20:17:19] <wizardrydragon> Mind you I suppose thats probably across the 24047 times it's visited :)
[20:17:32] <wizardrydragon> MSNBot 274 7.99 MB 23 Oct 2006 - 01:59
[20:17:41] <wizardrydragon> MSN comes in a not-so-close second :)
[20:18:22] <Marzo> Googlebot averages at around 58kB per visit, FYI
[20:18:33] <wizardrydragon> Also, most visits to the site last 15-30 minutes, with 41.5 visitors staying that long.
[20:18:39] <wizardrydragon> * 41.5%
[20:18:58] <Marzo> Is there an auto-signoff in the site due to inactivity?
[20:19:04] <wizardrydragon> Yes.
[20:19:18] <wizardrydragon> Else Crysta would probably skew the stats there ;)
[20:19:22] <Marzo> Good; otherwise, I would be skewing the results pretty badly
[20:19:26] <wizardrydragon> Lol
[20:19:26] <Marzo> lol
[20:19:41] <wizardrydragon> After 1h of inactivity you count as a seperate visit
[20:19:58] <wizardrydragon> 71.8% of website visitors use MSIE 6.0
[20:20:03] <Marzo> I basically have my browser always on, and the tfl forum is always loaded in one of the tabs
[20:20:08] <wizardrydragon> 21% use Firefox
[20:20:15] <Marzo> Me being one of them
[20:20:17] <wizardrydragon> 2.1% use Opera
[20:20:21] <Marzo> (Firefox, that is)
[20:20:28] <wizardrydragon> Curiously, 1.6% use Lynx
[20:20:48] <Marzo> IIRC, Lynx is a text-only browser, right?
[20:20:53] <wizardrydragon> Yep
[20:21:03] <Marzo> Poor suckers :-)
[20:21:12] <wizardrydragon> The majority of links to are site are from Wikipedia and from the Exult forum
[20:21:55] <wizardrydragon> Wikipedia accounts for 77.5% of the external links, Exult for 12.2%, Lazarus for 7.5%
[20:22:31] <wizardrydragon> (That statistic does not include search engine referrals))
[20:22:34] <Marzo> Leaving 2.8% for miscellaneous origins
[20:23:01] <wizardrydragon> Not unsurprisingly the top search term that results in a visit to our site is "exult mod"
[20:23:32] <Marzo> Considering it is the only Exult mod with a website, it is expected actually
[20:23:41] <wizardrydragon> Notably 11.1% of the people referred to it by a search engine are looking for an "exult keyring mod solution"
[20:23:42] <wizardrydragon> :)
[20:24:07] <wizardrydragon> Yay! :) 662 visitors to the site have added it to their favourites
[20:24:12] <Marzo> AFAIK, there is only one walkthrough for the Keyring mod, and it is in Italian
[20:24:42] <Marzo> Does the statistics allow you to know how many unique visitors there were?
[20:24:44] <wizardrydragon> Also not unsurprisngly the most bandwidth on the site are hits for the snapshot
[20:25:10] <wizardrydragon> Yes, thats hjow I was telling you how many people visit from each country - that statistic is broken down by country of origin
[20:25:33] <Marzo> Please remind me (I am too lazy to check it myself) -- do you include source usecode and graphics in the snapshots?
[20:25:55] <wizardrydragon> It's an option you can install, but is not required
[20:26:00] <Marzo> I thought those were 'hits', not unique visitors
[20:26:12] <wizardrydragon> THey're unique visitors
[20:26:22] <Marzo> I was thinking that you could maybe have a separate download for the mod source
[20:26:54] <wizardrydragon> If we can lynch someone into doing source snapshots on a semi-regular basis as Kirben does for Exult, that'd be great
[20:26:56] <Marzo> That way, the bandwidth hit would go way down as most people would likely not want to download it
[20:27:00] <wizardrydragon> brb
[20:27:05] <Marzo> k
[20:27:18] * wizardrydragon is not too concerned about bandwidth.
[20:28:20] <Marzo> Given that you don't even upload things to CVS in a regular basis, I don't think there is going to be much of a problem finding someone to make the snapshots :-)
[20:31:08] <wizardrydragon> <_<
[20:31:22] <wizardrydragon> Aww, we
[20:31:26] * Marzo pokes ont of the pointy eyes
[20:31:34] <wizardrydragon> *we'e only used a palty 2.2 gb of bandwidth today
[20:31:35] <Marzo> *one
[20:34:03] <wizardrydragon> Since it's inception, the site has used 143.39 gb of bandwidth.
[20:34:16] <Marzo> Wow
[20:34:28] <wizardrydragon> To compare, since I first put the lazarus download up, it has used approximately five terabytes of bandwidth.
[20:34:44] <Marzo> When was that again?
[20:34:56] <wizardrydragon> Approximately four months ago.
[20:35:27] <Marzo> ISTR that the web server is your own, right?
[20:36:02] <wizardrydragon> It's two seperate servers, but yes.
[20:36:17] <wizardrydragon> Semi-distributed-computing for the win.
[20:36:22] <Marzo> And you can afford all this bandwidth?
[20:36:40] <wizardrydragon> Yes and no.
[20:36:54] <Marzo> How so?
[20:36:56] <wizardrydragon> You could say there are fringe benefits for working for an ISP on the side.
[20:37:09] <Marzo> Oh
[20:37:13] <wizardrydragon> :)
[20:37:41] <wizardrydragon> I wonder how the UDIC affords the bandwidth they use :)
[20:37:55] <Marzo> Yeah
[20:38:03] <wizardrydragon> I asked this to the web team once and the reply was "not easily"
[20:38:05] <wizardrydragon> :)
[20:38:43] <Marzo> I am going to eat something now; be back later
[20:39:14] --- Marzo is now known as Marzo_away
[20:39:21] <wizardrydragon> Kay